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[Patch 1.0.0.133: Ziggs] General Discussion - Page 157

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Heed these two simple warnings. It will help make our GD a better place.

Consider this fair notice to all users. Warning will be dished out this patch.

Thanks.
Neo, 31.01.12
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
February 12 2012 05:23 GMT
#3121
On February 12 2012 14:19 Hyren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 09:30 Shiv. wrote:
I guess this belongs in GD:

What do you think of Elementz' new guide site?
I have skimmed through a guide or two and they cover everything from basic stuff to champs. They have videos and their guide design is really appealing once you've figured it out. I'm really enjoying this so far.


While some have been quite good, I've been noticing some inconsistincies/contradictions between the "quick guide" and the other tabs in others. Item recommendations are sometimes completely different or else very unclear, as well as runes/masteries/ability leveling.

example: SYDTKO gangplank- Philostone/Ionian Boots as core on "item builds" after showing cloth+5 -> boots -> doran's on the quickguide. :/ The "quickguide" tab throws in Infinity Edge and LW before any tankiness while the "item build" at least recommends Atmogs first unless you are really fed. About Ionian Boots he says "Boots of Lucidity are probably the best boots to get on Gangplank, I don't see taking any other option on him" but he shows Ninja Tabi in the quick guide.

I think that's in part an issue from how they try to simplify things too much, giving just one list of items to build. The site isn't really formatted to allow that, eg, most characters won't be getting the same boots every single game.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 12 2012 05:33 GMT
#3122
they have a tab that shows most recent guides for the free champs! that's very intuitive, i like it :D
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 12 2012 07:13 GMT
#3123
@Craton: Thanks a lot for that answer, just copypasted it to use it for future reference. <3

On February 12 2012 09:39 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 02:58 r.Evo wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:55 clickrush wrote:
i want one of the flying monkeys if you can spare one


Teutonica joined the room.
rTU (6:55): LOL TEUT
antemattar (6:55): oh god it's teutonica
rTU (6:55): NO ONE ELSE DARES TO POST IN GD ANYMORE
Zulbukh (6:55): wat
rTU (6:55): WE WIN
clickrush (6:55): sec
clickrush (6:55): have to check gd
clickrush (6:55): and write random stuff



You just had to break the awkward silence that followed, did you? =(


I see you edited out the random all caps I shouted when I joined. I can't even remember what it was.



It was "NAUTILUS MAXIMUS".

And now I feel bad for remembering that. Oh, welp. =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 07:27:54
February 12 2012 07:20 GMT
#3124
Man, Le Roffles is too noob.
God Bless
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 12 2012 07:27 GMT
#3125
On February 11 2012 12:51 BlackMagister wrote:
Patch Preview

le roffles is 10 pages of gd behind.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
February 12 2012 07:57 GMT
#3126
On February 12 2012 16:13 r.Evo wrote:
@Craton: Thanks a lot for that answer, just copypasted it to use it for future reference. <3

You can claim the credit for any parts I messed up.
twitch.tv/cratonz
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 08:27:04
February 12 2012 08:08 GMT
#3127
I think I'll still enjoy solomid vs the new pro website because it can give you ideas on things none of the pro players are really trying or if they do wouldn't write about. Though I'm surprised how many pros are writing guides for that site.
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
February 12 2012 08:33 GMT
#3128
lolpro just looks so clean. I'm sure as they work on it more and will surpass solomid as the go to site for guides
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
Mystogun
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States392 Posts
February 12 2012 09:19 GMT
#3129
lolpro looks really easy to navigate. After solomid changed, i had a hard time going through everything and finding my way around. still gonna go with tl though if i want to learn something.
"What I'm sayin' is that there are known knowns and there are known unknowns, but there's also unknown unknowns, things that we don't know we don't know." | SC2: NoiSe.730 | LoL: Galladiator
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 12 2012 09:23 GMT
#3130
Is there a way to see an entire guide at once? Really hate clicking through every single section o_O
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 10:32:29
February 12 2012 10:16 GMT
#3131
Honestly I don't think the site offers anything special because "pros" wrote the guides. The Rammus guide is pretty bad -- 2 gp10 sunfire as a core build? GA as an endgame item? Cloth 5 pot as an opener? These are horrible recommendations. The information on the quick guide section doesn't match up with the information in the more specific sections. It seems like they're trying to have the quick guide tab be an at-a-glance version, so then why are they different? Sometimes its the items that don't match up, sometimes its the masteries, etc.

Frankly it seems they're trying to hard to force every champ into a single guide and ending up with subpar guides because of it. When you have multiple recommended or at least approved guides to look at, you can see what different people do and try out different things to see what works best for you. Even the explanations are pretty bad.

"Rammus should almost always try to gank the lane with the highest damage from their abilites so that they can effectively use the crowd control from Puncturing Taunt." That's so generic and vague that it's useless. What does anyone glean about how to play a champ from being told to gank a lane that does tons of damage?

Another complaint: some guides are written by "pros" that either don't play the role of the champion or could at best be considered semi-pro, e.g. Sydtko writing a Cass guide with a pretty crappy item build. Try guessing who wrote the Garen guide without looking first.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Gaslo
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland951 Posts
February 12 2012 10:20 GMT
#3132
Are there any streamers that play mainly supports? I noticed that during the last 20 or so games, i have won like all 15 where i got solo lanes, and lost all 5 where i played support. There were couple of games where the AD was just plain old Crazy, but when all my supports are in the 45-52% region, i cant help to think that i need some help in that area.

But up 150 elo or so this week, whii.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 10:23:43
February 12 2012 10:22 GMT
#3133
EG Nhat Nyugen, TSM Xpecial, Spellsy, CLG.eu Krepo, SK Nyph. There's a few more I can't think of. About 1/3 of my ranked games are support.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 10:24:55
February 12 2012 10:23 GMT
#3134
meh posted in vlad thread
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 12 2012 10:30 GMT
#3135
On February 12 2012 19:16 Craton wrote:
Honestly I don't think the site offers anything special because "pros" wrote the guides. The Rammus guide is pretty bad -- 2 gp10 sunfire as a core build? GA as an endgame item? Cloth 5 pot as an opener? These are horrible recommendations. The information on the quick guide section doesn't match up with the information in the more specific sections. It seems like they're trying to have the quick guide tab be an at-a-glance version, so then why are they different? Sometimes its the items that don't match up, sometimes its the masteries, etc.

Frankly it seems they're trying to hard to force every champ into a single guide and ending up with subpar guides because of it. When you have multiple recommended or at least approved guides to look at, you can see what different people do and try out different things to see what works best for you. Even the explanations are pretty bad.

"Rammus should almost always try to gank the lane with the highest damage from their abilites so that they can effectively use the crowd control from Puncturing Taunt." That's so generic and vague that it's useless. What does anyone glean about how to play a champ from being told to gank a lane that does tons of damage?

I read the pobelter fizz guide and it's just terrible. Like seriously so awful, I didn't learn a single thing. "Fizz sucks in lane. In teamfights Fizz is supposed to spam spells and 1-shot their carry. Fizz should use E to dodge projectiles like leblancs" Like I'm looking to see a high elo guide that describes some high elo gameplay and not a description of the champion's abilities o_O
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
February 12 2012 10:46 GMT
#3136
asides from jacky's guides and the vayne guide i think the lolpro guides are shit
i wish riot would give me better ping
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 12 2012 10:50 GMT
#3137
On February 12 2012 16:13 r.Evo wrote:
@Craton: Thanks a lot for that answer, just copypasted it to use it for future reference. <3

Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 09:39 Slayer91 wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:58 r.Evo wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:55 clickrush wrote:
i want one of the flying monkeys if you can spare one


Teutonica joined the room.
rTU (6:55): LOL TEUT
antemattar (6:55): oh god it's teutonica
rTU (6:55): NO ONE ELSE DARES TO POST IN GD ANYMORE
Zulbukh (6:55): wat
rTU (6:55): WE WIN
clickrush (6:55): sec
clickrush (6:55): have to check gd
clickrush (6:55): and write random stuff



You just had to break the awkward silence that followed, did you? =(


I see you edited out the random all caps I shouted when I joined. I can't even remember what it was.



It was "NAUTILUS MAXIMUS".

And now I feel bad for remembering that. Oh, welp. =P


Oh yeah, haha, the new champ is called nautilus. Life of brian <3.

Also, bigus dickus.
FR4CT4L
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia697 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 10:57:45
February 12 2012 10:55 GMT
#3138
On February 12 2012 19:16 Craton wrote:
Try guessing who wrote the Garen guide without looking first.


I was under the impression that Doublelift knows/knew how to play Garen seeing as he ended up running him at dreamhack and the only changes I can recall from then till now have been his numbers.

Veni, vidi, vici!
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
February 12 2012 11:06 GMT
#3139
Lolpro guides are terrible because "pros" atm are mainly random guys grinding games. Very few of them are good theory craters or even have a good understanding of builds.

And having one guide per character sounds stupid.
Critplank/Tankplank? DeathCassio, WotArmog Cassio? Gunblade Jax/Bruiser Jax?
The legend of Darien lives on
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 12 2012 11:07 GMT
#3140
lol, do people purposely play bad when they get paired with Saint?

The only game I saw him win tonight is one in which he fed as support Ashe. Erry other game his team just dies, and dies, and dies.... and dies some more.

As a jungler, the worst feeling is being like "Damn my bot lane losing. Damn, my top lane losing too.... Fuck, bot lane getting pooped on." There is literally nothing you can do but sigh and take the loss.Atleast saint doesn't get hated on and blamed for the loss after the game because thats how it usually works for me.

"SCREW YOU 5-0-0 JUNGLER! YOU LOST US THE GAME!!!!! YOU SO BAD BEING HIGHER LEVEL THAN EVERYONE ELSE AND HAVING THE MOST GOLD!!!shiftone!!1!!!" -0/5/0 AD Carry
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