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On November 01 2010 23:08 R04R wrote:
I've been playing a lot of Sion. AP is awesome for laning and poking, but I feel like it's not strong enough late game because if you run in that far and explode your shield you can get bursted easily right after, so I have to build some survivability items.
Usual lane build is Dring, boots, sapphire crystal, boots 2/3 / sheen, lich bane, necessary tank items if needed.
For jungle I open with vamp scepter and try to go AD. Wriggles/Zerk Boots/Trinity Force.
Should I be getting more AP in my laning build?
Btw, MS Quints = shield chasing/harassing all day
Don't go straight AP, AP/Tank Hybrid is much more effective. You don't really need a boat load of AP to be effective so focus on items which make you bulkier as well. Things like RoA, Abyssal Scepter, and the like all go well on him.
The new malady also works really well on AP builds because the ASPD is useful for your ult while the MR shredding does wonders for your stun and shield.
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so I was trying to catch up with this thread, but then gave up. Are they seriously thinking of adding 75% AD to Sivir's Boomerang? Because that sounds un fucking believable to me. She'd be so strong  ...
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Hey guys,
I just switched my main from Janna to Katarina and I'm getting all these guides that tell me different things x.x
Some say AP some say DPS, some are 'pre nerf' and some are 'post nerf'
Every single one basically tells me a different list of items and masteries lol
I am in total confusion. Does anyone play Kat as their main and have any advice for a Kat-newbie 
I've only had 2 games with her so far but she seems quite fun as a ganker.
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is there a fucking fix to this stupid ass crash every game bullshit
its losing me games and pissing me the fuck off
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On November 02 2010 00:42 Dark.Pyro wrote:Hey guys, I just switched my main from Janna to Katarina and I'm getting all these guides that tell me different things x.x Some say AP some say DPS, some are 'pre nerf' and some are 'post nerf' Every single one basically tells me a different list of items and masteries lol I am in total confusion. Does anyone play Kat as their main and have any advice for a Kat-newbie I've only had 2 games with her so far but she seems quite fun as a ganker.
1. Build tank.
2. ???
3. Profit!
AP Kat is really good. AD Kat isn't, imo. And don't you dare go hybrid..
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On November 02 2010 00:42 Dark.Pyro wrote:Hey guys, I just switched my main from Janna to Katarina and I'm getting all these guides that tell me different things x.x Some say AP some say DPS, some are 'pre nerf' and some are 'post nerf' Every single one basically tells me a different list of items and masteries lol I am in total confusion. Does anyone play Kat as their main and have any advice for a Kat-newbie I've only had 2 games with her so far but she seems quite fun as a ganker.
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On November 02 2010 00:42 Dark.Pyro wrote:Hey guys, I just switched my main from Janna to Katarina and I'm getting all these guides that tell me different things x.x Some say AP some say DPS, some are 'pre nerf' and some are 'post nerf' Every single one basically tells me a different list of items and masteries lol I am in total confusion. Does anyone play Kat as their main and have any advice for a Kat-newbie I've only had 2 games with her so far but she seems quite fun as a ganker.
Check the wiki.
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On November 02 2010 00:42 Dark.Pyro wrote:Hey guys, I just switched my main from Janna to Katarina and I'm getting all these guides that tell me different things x.x Some say AP some say DPS, some are 'pre nerf' and some are 'post nerf' Every single one basically tells me a different list of items and masteries lol I am in total confusion. Does anyone play Kat as their main and have any advice for a Kat-newbie I've only had 2 games with her so far but she seems quite fun as a ganker.
no matter what, you should open:
d-shield
sorc shoes
AD is easier to play at first, so do that... Just max your Bouncing blade and then stack BF Swords and giant's belts, eventually making bloodthirsters, sunfire capes, rylai's when you run out of slots
AP you get rylai's after the opening and then it's a big situational ???????? as to what's next.
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On November 01 2010 17:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Evelynn questions:
1) Any news on the rework? Wasn't that supposed to happen months ago?
2) I used her straight AP tonight with LB and RoA and kicked ass. (4 no-death games in a row tonight! One death I don't count because I stole Baron for the team.) Is jungling even possible with her anymore now that they changed her passive to non-neutral minions?
Sorry to repost but I'm in the mood to try new stuff on Eve tonight (tank/jungler?)... Anyone?
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1) She stomps pubbies and lowbies so a re-work is difficult to balance.
2) She's much better served being a tank, especially since most people are stupid and attack her.
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On November 02 2010 00:09 ProV1 wrote:
Kennen takes so much skillzzzz....
Not! Autoattack, press W. Win! Press W twice, get a stun!
Hmm.. It is definitely not that simple.
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Kat actually kinda sucks in this meta, she's outclassed by pretty much every midgame carry =/.
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On November 02 2010 00:50 Southlight wrote:
1) She stomps pubbies and lowbies so a re-work is difficult to balance.
2) She's much better served being a tank, especially since most people are stupid and attack her.
Thanks Uta, but what I'm wondering is has anyone jungled Eve since her passive was changed? She now only takes 50% DMG from non-neutral minions so I'm not sure if jungling is even possible on her anymore.
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On November 02 2010 00:56 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Kat actually kinda sucks in this meta, she's outclassed by pretty much every midgame carry =/.
To be fair though, with the re-rise of ranged carries, I bet Kat can go back to absolutely stomping kids solomid, and without 5 tanks to cc her and/or soak her damage she might be able to get some voracity chains going again. Too bad the only people that mained Kat all quit or play other things now.
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Q is still a really strong DPS skill, so I imagine you could make it work. I'd just try shit out in Practice game if I were you.
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On November 02 2010 01:02 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2010 00:50 Southlight wrote:
1) She stomps pubbies and lowbies so a re-work is difficult to balance.
2) She's much better served being a tank, especially since most people are stupid and attack her. Thanks Uta, but what I'm wondering is has anyone jungled Eve since her passive was changed? She now only takes 50% DMG from non-neutral minions so I'm not sure if jungling is even possible on her anymore.
Her passive wasn't changed... the wording was corrected. She never took reduced damage from jungle minions.
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can someone tell me what the current meta is and a brief history of the meta at high levels? include the following info: strat, why it was good, best champs, counter/reason for transition to other meta
1) heal comp
reason: infinitely sustainable pushes
champs: soraka, taric, whoever else
counter: ignite, more burst?
2) tanky
reason: deal damage with abilities, more tanky = more time doing damage
champs: garen, amumu
counter: better positioning/cc, kog
3) I hear people say ranged dps is good, where you just protect the carry and keep everything cc'd?
also, why does elementz say Kayle is T4?
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1) beta meta
reason: champs weren't balanced
champs: whoever was broken atm
counter: Riot balancing team
2) tf meta
reason: tf
champs: tf
counter: Riot balancing team
3) AoE spam team
reason: really strong AoE damage and disables
champs: Fiddle, Annie, Sivir, Alistar, Malphite, Katarina, Pantheon, Amumu
counter: a few key nerfs + poke/heal team rising
4) Poke Heal team
reason: could win attrition without strong initiation, thus it could break AoE spam teams by just 5v5 kiting them to death. Also Essense Flux was RETARDED.
champs: Ezreal, Ashe, Janna, Soraka, Nidalee, Taric, Warwick
counter: Riot balancing team, draft mode
5) Tank spam team
reason: tanks hit too fucking hard
champs: Garen, Amumu, Udyr, Warwick, Olaf, Sion
counter: ghost + flash, kog maw
what we have now is fairly balanced from what I've seen so I wouldn't classify it next to any of the other FotM metas.
Kayle is in tier 4 because you need to build a team around her. She brings really poor CC to the table, is fairly weak at laning/ganking for a carry and is just generally a bit clunky. I think he has overreacted with her positioning on the tier list, but she doesn't feel all that strong atm.
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On November 02 2010 01:30 IntoTheWow wrote:
lol wtf
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