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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9639 Posts
October 27 2010 16:18 GMT
#27101
My roommate was arguing with me about somethign

We ace them, we're taking down towers and inhibs

they are coming up in 10

What do you take down, nexus towers to "backdoor" (his words) the nexus or a free inhibitor?

Is it too situational or would the answer be definitely one or the other?
jtbem
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1404 Posts
October 27 2010 16:21 GMT
#27102
inhibitor no doubt, guaranteed damage.
aka Sowelulol
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 27 2010 16:23 GMT
#27103
On October 28 2010 01:18 Gene wrote:
My roommate was arguing with me about somethign

We ace them, we're taking down towers and inhibs

they are coming up in 10

What do you take down, nexus towers to "backdoor" (his words) the nexus or a free inhibitor?

Is it too situational or would the answer be definitely one or the other?

I think it's very situational. I think an ok rule of thumb is that if you're winning anyway, take the inhib and grind the game out, if you're trying to stage a comeback, give yourself a path to their nexus.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
October 27 2010 16:23 GMT
#27104
Kassadin trashes Kennen pretty easily.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
October 27 2010 16:31 GMT
#27105
On October 28 2010 00:54 Mogwai wrote:
I really really really feel like Nidalee beats Kennen. She's not Melee, so you don't auto-win for picking Kennen. She has good enough range to trade attacks and Spear for Shuriken and then just simply outlasts you with heals. It's not like she's going to kill you most of the time or anything but I think she actually has the ability to trade hits with Kennen quite well and when you can trade, the person with the spammable heal wins.


if you max shuriken first (I follow Salce on this) I'm pretty sure Kennen can just play passive and never get forced out of the lane. You can last hit from 1000 range.

On October 28 2010 01:23 Southlight wrote:
Kassadin trashes Kennen pretty easily.


so true. that Q is infuriating
it's my first day
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 27 2010 16:38 GMT
#27106
ok, so you never get forced off the lane, but in the meantime Nidalee can last hit everything, whereas you're left doing pretty awkward last hits which will invariably give her a CS lead. Again, it's not that I think she trashes Kennen or anything, just that she wins the lane.

and yea, I imagine the fucking 700 range, non-skillshot poke works Kennen over.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
October 27 2010 16:41 GMT
#27107
solution: give Kennen spammable heal
it's my first day
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 27 2010 16:45 GMT
#27108
Kennen is clearly UP

here's how to fix.

Make his ult hit all targets in the area on each tick.
Remove the 3 hit/target cap on his ult
Make Lightning Rush castable while disabled.
Make Lightning Rush remove all negative debuffs when cast
Make Lightning Rush make Kennen immune to slows for the duration
Add a Healing component to Lightning rush that heals Kennen and all Allies he passes through for 80/130/180/230/280 + (1.5)

Character is now perfectly balanced!
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 16:51:26
October 27 2010 16:50 GMT
#27109
I've lost to Kennen once and that was some random in normal queue, I even beat Salce's Kennen lol.
Nid wins pretty much every matchup.
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
October 27 2010 16:59 GMT
#27110
Not sure if this is correct, but I would imagine Kennen needs to get to level 6, ult nidalee right as he blings 6, and then keep the pressure on her when her health is low. Cougar form doesn't really do anything to Kennen.
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
October 27 2010 17:07 GMT
#27111
On October 28 2010 01:23 Southlight wrote:
Kassadin trashes Kennen pretty easily.


Even if Kennen goes W > Q and is aggressive in countering your Q with autoattacks?
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
October 27 2010 17:11 GMT
#27112
On October 28 2010 02:07 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2010 01:23 Southlight wrote:
Kassadin trashes Kennen pretty easily.


Even if Kennen goes W > Q and is aggressive in countering your Q with autoattacks?


Kennen auto range: 575

Null Sphere range: 700


Yep.
it's my first day
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
October 27 2010 17:11 GMT
#27113
On October 28 2010 01:50 HazMat wrote:
I've lost to Kennen once and that was some random in normal queue, I even beat Salce's Kennen lol.
Nid wins pretty much every matchup.


Except Annie.

'Kay so I was wrong in assuming Kennen > Nid.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 27 2010 17:13 GMT
#27114
I actually also think that Pantheon trashes Nid up until cougar form.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
October 27 2010 17:21 GMT
#27115
What do you think is the best Xin build right now?

I was thinking somthing like BRs then more attack speed into tank?
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 17:22:48
October 27 2010 17:22 GMT
#27116
On October 28 2010 02:11 myopia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2010 02:07 oberon wrote:
On October 28 2010 01:23 Southlight wrote:
Kassadin trashes Kennen pretty easily.


Even if Kennen goes W > Q and is aggressive in countering your Q with autoattacks?


Kennen auto range: 575

Null Sphere range: 700


Yep.


ur doing it wrong. You E when his sphere's about to hit you (MR boost + speed boost), close gap, autoattack and W when silence goes away.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
October 27 2010 17:23 GMT
#27117
Actually when Kennen balls into me I just attack back. SaintVicious tried that shit against me and he even ulted at level 6 and I just killed him with autoattacks, it was pretty funny.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
October 27 2010 17:25 GMT
#27118
On October 28 2010 02:23 Southlight wrote:
Actually when Kennen balls into me I just attack back. SaintVicious tried that shit against me and he even ulted at level 6 and I just killed him with autoattacks, it was pretty funny.


Well i wouldn't ball INTO you, just close enough to autohit with u running away
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 17:26:35
October 27 2010 17:25 GMT
#27119
On October 28 2010 02:22 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2010 02:11 myopia wrote:
On October 28 2010 02:07 oberon wrote:
On October 28 2010 01:23 Southlight wrote:
Kassadin trashes Kennen pretty easily.


Even if Kennen goes W > Q and is aggressive in countering your Q with autoattacks?


Kennen auto range: 575

Null Sphere range: 700


Yep.


ur doing it wrong. You E when his sphere's about to hit you (MR boost + speed boost), close gap, autoattack and W when silence goes away.

balling into people to harass is awful. if you're ballin' at someone, you damn well better kill them.

EDIT: I mean, Kass just backs off after he Qs, you run into his creeps to get 1 auto-attack to trade with his big single target nuke and then eat creep agro as you back off. How is this a good idea?
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
October 27 2010 17:25 GMT
#27120
stupid Kassadin passive
it's my first day
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