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Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
April 18 2010 21:57 GMT
#2321
Of course Zero got stuck with the ZvZ.
Zero fighting.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 18 2010 22:02 GMT
#2322
On April 19 2010 06:57 Jaksiel wrote:
Of course Zero got stuck with the ZvZ.


He had a protoss last OSL on zerg favoured maps.

He didn't fare much better with that. Zero is just a Ro8 player.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
April 18 2010 22:37 GMT
#2323
On April 19 2010 07:02 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 06:57 Jaksiel wrote:
Of course Zero got stuck with the ZvZ.


He had a protoss last OSL on zerg favoured maps.

He didn't fare much better with that. Zero is just a Ro8 player.


Considering he's made a Ro4, I don't think that's very accurate.
Remember Violet.
nitdkim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1264 Posts
April 18 2010 22:39 GMT
#2324
good thing i slept instead of watching another 5 games of draws until effort finally won...
PM me if you want random korean images translated.
LuigiNMario
Profile Joined April 2010
United States456 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 22:42:19
April 18 2010 22:40 GMT
#2325
+ Show Spoiler +
(Z)EffOrt
When there's Flash there's a way.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
April 19 2010 00:23 GMT
#2326
any interviews from this epic tie breaker?
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
April 19 2010 02:24 GMT
#2327
Yeah, it's the next day. And this is still pretty absurd. People jumping back on the Effort bandwagon dispite being as equally bad as go.go and Shine. LoL.

Requesting 2-month ban, I've been neglecting all of my schoolwork and other shit, and there's no greater evidence of that than watching 17 OSL games, plus the 9 proleague games I watched before those, and spending over 6 hours updating this OP.

Love you all, see you after my finals.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
TacToSs
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia330 Posts
April 19 2010 02:30 GMT
#2328
rofl awesome paint, so true
Jaedong <3
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
April 19 2010 02:41 GMT
#2329
Mirrors account for 50% of matchups, from the perspective of the observer.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 03:10:47
April 19 2010 03:10 GMT
#2330
On April 19 2010 11:41 RoieTRS wrote:
Mirrors account for 50% of matchups, from the perspective of the observer.



no?!

assuming all 3 races are played equally often:

then 1/9th of the games will be tvt, 1/9th will be tvp, 1/9th will be pvt... wait, thats the same from the observers perspective.

each particular mirror makes up for 1/9th of the games, so 1/3rd of all games are mirrors. each particular nonmirror makes up for 2/9th of the games, so 2/3rd of all games are non-mirrors.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
April 19 2010 03:26 GMT
#2331
lol i thought germans were good at math/stats
u need to count tvt etc twice
hence there is half chance of getting mirror
Buy prints of my photographs at Redbubble -> http://www.redbubble.com/people/shoenberg3
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
April 19 2010 03:44 GMT
#2332
On April 19 2010 12:26 phosphorylation wrote:
lol i thought germans were good at math/stats
u need to count tvt etc twice
hence there is half chance of getting mirror

*facepalm* *facepalm* *facepalm* *facepalm* *facepalm* *facepalm* *facepalm*
Jaedong
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 03:54:59
April 19 2010 03:50 GMT
#2333
On April 19 2010 12:26 phosphorylation wrote:
lol i thought germans were good at math/stats
u need to count tvt etc twice
hence there is half chance of getting mirror



roll 2 dices simultaneously for 100 or 200 times and count how often u roll 2 sixes and how often u roll a six and a five. this should teach u.


some other reasoning:

we randomly choose 2 players, player A and player B, out of a huge pool of players. lets say that all races are played by an equal amount of players, so the chance for player A to be a terran player is 1/3rd.


we only get a tvt if both player A and player B are terrans. as both events are independent assuming a large enough playerpool, the probability for this to happen is 1/3*1/3 = 1/9.


to get a pvt, we need EITHER player A to be toss and player B to be terran, which has a probability of 1/9th, or player A to be terran and player B to be toss, which also has a probability of 1/9th. the overall probability of a pvt thus is 2/9.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
April 19 2010 03:54 GMT
#2334
TvT
TvP
TvZ
PvT
PvP
PvZ
ZvT
ZvP
ZvZ

each are equally likely assuming equal amounts of each race, 1/3 are mirrors

therefore about 1/3 of the total matchups will be mirrors
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
April 19 2010 03:54 GMT
#2335
MS Paint to the rescue.

[image loading]
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8178 Posts
April 19 2010 03:55 GMT
#2336
omg i hate this discussion whenever it comes up

hurts my head so bad
Free Palestine
Rucky
Profile Joined February 2008
United States717 Posts
April 19 2010 05:54 GMT
#2337
wow you guys are all saying 1/3....did you not even read the guy. It says from observer's point of view. Watching a tvz vs a zvt is the same damn thing. Observers don't play. But when you play the game, you are either the terran or the zerg so that makes 2 matchups.
Beyond the Game
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
April 19 2010 05:56 GMT
#2338
lol damn my bad
even monkeys fall off the tree
Buy prints of my photographs at Redbubble -> http://www.redbubble.com/people/shoenberg3
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
April 19 2010 07:18 GMT
#2339
On April 19 2010 14:54 Rucky wrote:
wow you guys are all saying 1/3....did you not even read the guy. It says from observer's point of view. Watching a tvz vs a zvt is the same damn thing. Observers don't play. But when you play the game, you are either the terran or the zerg so that makes 2 matchups.


look at the chart again.

even from a player's perspective you still have a 1/3 chance at getting a mirror
Jaester88
Profile Joined September 2009
United States143 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 07:24:05
April 19 2010 07:20 GMT
#2340
No, that's not what RoieTRS said. He didn't say from the perspective of the observer, mirrors happen 50% of the time, he said from the perspective of the observer, mirrors account for 50% of the matchups. The way he said it, it's true.

edit: This is, unless, everyone's responding to a different post than I am.
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