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Shatter
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1401 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 07:29:18
April 19 2010 07:23 GMT
#2341
Lol. Yes its 50% mirrors in the diversity of matchups, you can't count TvP and PvT as 2 separate matchups when you are watching the match, it's the same thing.
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
April 19 2010 07:35 GMT
#2342
too bad the two favorites to win the finals have to play in the ro8 ;/
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
April 19 2010 07:40 GMT
#2343
On April 19 2010 16:23 Shatter wrote:
Lol. Yes its 50% mirrors in the diversity of matchups, you can't count TvP and PvT as 2 separate matchups when you are watching the match, it's the same thing.

But you watch TvP (or PvT) twice as often. Oh, he said matchups and not matches. ;O a weird point, but okay.
Jaedong
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
April 19 2010 07:46 GMT
#2344
On April 19 2010 16:23 Shatter wrote:
Lol. Yes its 50% mirrors in the diversity of matchups, you can't count TvP and PvT as 2 separate matchups when you are watching the match, it's the same thing.


Whatever, the point is there are twice as many non-mirrors as there are mirrors in expectation.
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
April 19 2010 08:07 GMT
#2345
Movie vs Pure should be a fun match to watch.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
April 19 2010 08:36 GMT
#2346
Interviews are up!
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 08:55:07
April 19 2010 08:54 GMT
#2347
Did Effort deserve the re-game? Was he going to lose otherwise? Did he appear to actually have mouse issues?
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
April 19 2010 15:58 GMT
#2348
thank god for recommended games or else id prolly die trying to look for the good games (esp. in these moments)
Forever Young
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
April 19 2010 20:51 GMT
#2349
lol poor fantasy and calm
neither of them made it.. fucking pure
cw)minsean(ru
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
April 19 2010 21:43 GMT
#2350
On April 19 2010 17:54 Zzoram wrote:
Did Effort deserve the re-game? Was he going to lose otherwise? Did he appear to actually have mouse issues?

I think it wasn't correct to give him that regame. I'm not sure about it exactly but as i recall Shine had a far supirior army flying over efforts abandoned natural so even if the mouse stopped working it was just seconds from the gg
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
April 19 2010 22:54 GMT
#2351
On April 20 2010 06:43 luckybeni2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 17:54 Zzoram wrote:
Did Effort deserve the re-game? Was he going to lose otherwise? Did he appear to actually have mouse issues?

I think it wasn't correct to give him that regame. I'm not sure about it exactly but as i recall Shine had a far supirior army flying over efforts abandoned natural so even if the mouse stopped working it was just seconds from the gg

The argument was that the faulty mouse had caused Effort to mismicro and lose all those mutas/scourge, putting him in an unfavorable position. Hence the regame.

They really do need to come out with some guidelines regarding regames though.
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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 23:28:36
April 19 2010 23:14 GMT
#2352
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Jaester88
Profile Joined September 2009
United States143 Posts
April 20 2010 00:05 GMT
#2353
I just watched Calm vs Fantasy, and at first I was like why is this game recommended? And then I lol'ed. Both players are so full of fail. + Show Spoiler +
I especially enjoyed the two lurkers on the ramp. XD
pathy
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Taiwan619 Posts
April 20 2010 04:51 GMT
#2354
missed stork
Graphicscolosi suck
knightpraetor
Profile Joined October 2008
United States180 Posts
April 20 2010 12:05 GMT
#2355
these were quite possibly some of the worst matches i've seen in the last year? is gogo really a pro? those mistakes are D level at best..he can't even pull scvs to repair properly. At least effort's losses, though filled with mistakes, weren't ones that I had to think to myself, "wow, even I wouldn't die because of that"

but yeah, when the topic poster said that the rest of the matches were ones that would make you one to shoot yourself, he wasn't kidding
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66365 Posts
April 20 2010 12:50 GMT
#2356
^ playing for several hours in the booth and trying to get into the Ro8 and failing time and time again, with your mental and physical strength being drained, it's not surprising to see that much mistakes, even from a progamer.
POGGERS
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-20 19:30:35
April 20 2010 16:40 GMT
#2357
they should really implement something like playing each other twice in the round robin round ala champions league in order to avoid clusterfucks like this!
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 20 2010 16:57 GMT
#2358
On April 21 2010 01:40 amazingoopah wrote:
they should really implement something like playing each other twice in the round robin round twice ala champions league in order to avoid clusterfucks like this!


and how do you want to create home teams and away teams?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
April 20 2010 19:38 GMT
#2359
On April 21 2010 01:57 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 01:40 amazingoopah wrote:
they should really implement something like playing each other twice in the round robin round twice ala champions league in order to avoid clusterfucks like this!


and how do you want to create home teams and away teams?


since home/away element is irrelevant in pro starcraft, then that wouldn't be an issue. They'd simply play each other twice, with different maps in each situation, in order to less the possibility of three guys being stuck with 1-2 records and doing these silly tiebreak games.

Of course, there's still a chance of crazy tie scenarios but I think with 6 games over a series of different maps would lessen these possibilities (and give us more games to watch > )
RoyW
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Ireland270 Posts
April 20 2010 22:46 GMT
#2360
Mirrors account for 50% of matchups, from the perspective of the observer.

They count as 50% of the match-up types, but only have an 1/3 EV of match-up volume.
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