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lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
July 26 2011 03:20 GMT
#2261
I'm surprised RO and Shurelya's didn't give assists already!
Everyone needs a nemesis.
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
July 26 2011 03:28 GMT
#2262
2 things:

1) I don't understand why Riot chose to nerf the AD ratio on Yorick's W and not the ludicrous 100% damage ghost that gives you an extra AD carry late game.

2) Is it just me or does the new Janna model look ... sluttier?
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
July 26 2011 03:38 GMT
#2263
Hm, I thought no Annie nerf at all from what Morello was saying but the nerf they gave her doesn't seem to be that huge, she'll still be really good.

Corki nerf doesn't seem...awful. Like, he seems as though he'll still be better than every AD carry that isn't named Ashe. I may start maxing E first instead of Q now though with the blind change.

I'm pretty okay with most of this patch.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
July 26 2011 03:50 GMT
#2264
On July 26 2011 09:21 BlackPaladin wrote:
Only real thing now is they need to change his w back to how long the stun used to be and just get rid of HSS. Heck, who even uses HSS anymore? lol It does like 2 damage vs minions so can't even be used to clear waves fast. Plus it's a high risk vs champs, and half the time you're better of throwing your giant spear at them and poking them to death with your long manliness.

And of course if you have 3 champs with a similar class they're going to be better or worse at a specific thing. Champs aren't exactly the same or this would be a pretty boring game lol.

i remember smash suggesting removal of hss on forums, i think it wasnt the best. experience ever for riot opinion of 500 scrubs is more important than opinion if few high elos
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 26 2011 03:57 GMT
#2265
On July 26 2011 12:28 arnath wrote:
2 things:

1) I don't understand why Riot chose to nerf the AD ratio on Yorick's W and not the ludicrous 100% damage ghost that gives you an extra AD carry late game.

2) Is it just me or does the new Janna model look ... sluttier?

They did nerf the Yorick ult. They nerfed it from 50/75/100% damage to 45/60/75% damage. That's a pretty big nerf if you ask me...
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
July 26 2011 04:01 GMT
#2266
Sigh, reading comprehension ftl ...
FatalRuin
Profile Joined March 2011
United States45 Posts
July 26 2011 04:10 GMT
#2267
Sigh... Orianna nerf... I hope this wont be the start of some long nerfing chain that nerfs her so hard that she becomes unplayable
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 26 2011 04:13 GMT
#2268
On July 26 2011 13:01 arnath wrote:
Sigh, reading comprehension ftl ...

I'm reading and re-reading your post and I can't tell what reading comprehension fail you're talking about. Unless you're referring to a fail on your part?
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 04:19:01
July 26 2011 04:18 GMT
#2269
No I was talking about myself. Just somehow totally missed that line in the patch notes.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
July 26 2011 04:52 GMT
#2270
Why do they remove panth ult range and not compensate immediately.

They act like this is some kind of alpha "oh we will look what we can do with him later", i mean wtf is this. They just do whatever crosses their minds in that week, how can i those balance efforts seriously.
Its like a child with a 5 minute attention span is in charge of designing the champions.

well maybe next week they can rebuff xin and kayle just like they did with jax this week.
NightWalks
Profile Joined May 2011
Latvia252 Posts
July 26 2011 05:48 GMT
#2271
Omen of Pestilence now scales off of ability power at a 1.0 ratio instead of a .8 bonus attack damage ratio

Have i misunderstood or it realy means Q scales of AP now ????
Glad i bought him this weekend and got 20 quick wins ... atleast gets me some IP back until next patches where he becomes viable again.
LoL making ppl rage since 2010
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 26 2011 05:50 GMT
#2272
On July 26 2011 14:48 NightWalks wrote:
Omen of Pestilence now scales off of ability power at a 1.0 ratio instead of a .8 bonus attack damage ratio

Have i misunderstood or it realy means Q scales of AP now ????
Glad i bought him this weekend and got 20 quick wins ... atleast gets me some IP back until next patches where he becomes viable again.

Omen of Pestilence is W.
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NightWalks
Profile Joined May 2011
Latvia252 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 06:07:59
July 26 2011 06:03 GMT
#2273
Omen of Pestilence is W


My bad. Then it's less terrible as you used to get bonuss dmg only arround midgame from Manamune or Atmogs and even then its arround 100 bonus dmg witch adds 80 MAGIC dmg to W and falls off end game due to resists.

Then again it does hurt his pushing
LoL making ppl rage since 2010
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 07:39:40
July 26 2011 07:38 GMT
#2274
LOL.

Shreds armor with each hit! So at level 3 each of my hits will reduce the average of 25 armor by an unbelievable 0.5! Idk if the guys at Riot are retarded, but they are trying really hard.

Also Tryndamare's model reworked into Malibu lifeguard. Why the heck.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
July 26 2011 08:15 GMT
#2275
Am I seriously the only one excited for cassi buff? You can see in bushes, man!
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 26 2011 08:16 GMT
#2276
On July 26 2011 17:15 Odds wrote:
Am I seriously the only one excited for cassi buff? You can see in bushes, man!


Don't have too many Cass players on TL but yeah. It's a good buff. Will help her a lot in jungle team fights if she can see where to Q next.
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Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
July 26 2011 08:37 GMT
#2277
The Cassi buff might just make her viable.

Still no Kennen buffs, Riot just felt like ruining my best character and leaving him behind all raped and not even giving him enough money to get back home.

I like the small adjustments to Annie instead of just nerfing her into the ground, why don't they do this to all the heroes instead of the meganerfs/megabuffs, you'd think that after doing something wrong 100 times you'd start doing it propperly, but no! Ofcourse not, that'd be to much to ask.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
July 26 2011 09:17 GMT
#2278
I don't get Riot. Nobody plays Kayle, so why exactly are they completly nerfing her to shit? She was allready mediocre at best.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
July 26 2011 09:22 GMT
#2279
On July 26 2011 18:17 zalz wrote:
I don't get Riot. Nobody plays Kayle, so why exactly are they completly nerfing her to shit? She was allready mediocre at best.

I wouldn't be so sure it's a nerf yet. That Q spam is most likely gonna hurt. She's definitely getting less interesting though.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 09:29:32
July 26 2011 09:28 GMT
#2280
On July 26 2011 18:22 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 18:17 zalz wrote:
I don't get Riot. Nobody plays Kayle, so why exactly are they completly nerfing her to shit? She was allready mediocre at best.

I wouldn't be so sure it's a nerf yet. That Q spam is most likely gonna hurt. She's definitely getting less interesting though.


The old passive + q with higher damage amplification -> e >>>> new passive + q with lower damage amplification -> e

Even her q -> e burst will suck more.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
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