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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 18 2011 12:23 GMT
#201
I think it's when each player plays a Bo3 instead of Bo1.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2609 Posts
November 18 2011 13:06 GMT
#202
yes it was

5 x 1on1 Bo3 1 x 2on2 Bo3 and then we could add an ace match or 6 x 1on1 Bo3 and Ace Match or something. But just playing 1 game on each playdate is kinda lame...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 18 2011 13:43 GMT
#203
I'd be fine with Bo3s, just no 2v2.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
S2Glow
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Singapore1042 Posts
November 18 2011 14:17 GMT
#204
i think bo1 is better though , more like a proleague style :O bo3 is long .
<3 Katelyn , C Zerg. Dying wish is to watch proleague live and see my girlfriend which gonna be soon! <33
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2609 Posts
November 18 2011 14:35 GMT
#205
But why should it be like a proleague? Proleague is made for the spectators, but this is made for the players.

And I can imagine that some people will not take some time for this, when it is only ONE match for them.

I would like to see a poll about the format, tbh. That would be the easiest thing.
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George_the_man
Profile Joined May 2011
796 Posts
November 18 2011 15:00 GMT
#206
well some games gonna be casted so its better if its BO1 , its too long otherwise.
Besides since the point of this tournament is fun it is more fair for weaker players to be BO1 than BO3 couse they can win BO1, games gonna be more unpredictable .
Im sure im gonna play at least once some troll C lvl guy whos gonna own me hard , in that case i wouldnt even show in the set 2 couse whats the point ...
so... to sum up imo in this tournament its more fair and entertaining if its BO1
CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
November 18 2011 15:14 GMT
#207
I personally feel BO1 for this league style is better, games are much more tense and cheese/unorthadox play is pretty exciting.
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
November 18 2011 15:30 GMT
#208
Bo1, Bo3 would take really really long.
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don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
November 18 2011 15:37 GMT
#209
"no obs unless you are being streamed"

What if we're playing on 2 player map and both me and my opponent can't join each other's game because of latency?
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George_the_man
Profile Joined May 2011
796 Posts
November 18 2011 15:57 GMT
#210
you can skip latency problem if u and ur opponent both join game created by someone else (coaches i guess?) for a second
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
November 18 2011 16:06 GMT
#211
On November 19 2011 00:57 George_the_man wrote:
you can skip latency problem if u and ur opponent both join game created by someone else (coaches i guess?) for a second


If both dont have open ports it wont work if the coach leaves though. I for one cant open my ports (something wrong with my router i believe) so this is gonna be a problem for me (and many others) playing this tournament.
To everyone who can: OPEN YOUR PORTS!
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Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 16:09:49
November 18 2011 16:08 GMT
#212
Will the games be played one after another or can we play all the first six matches at one time to save some time?
And what happens if less than six players turn up?

edit: Perhaps check out before the matches start if there's a host for every single match, if not: Switch the players!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
November 18 2011 16:37 GMT
#213
On November 18 2011 23:17 S2Glow wrote:
i think bo1 is better though , more like a proleague style :O bo3 is long .


This.

Bo3 just gets ridiculously long; when people start having to show up at 9 and not have to play a match till 12 that's no good.
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chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2609 Posts
November 18 2011 17:38 GMT
#214
But who says that it needs to be played consecutive? o_O You can play those matches simultaneously. I dont know where the problem is.

And if there is a cast, then the caster can choose 2-3 Bo3 he will cast, so the players will not wait as long as you imagine.

Just make a poll and if Bo1 wins, I am fine with it. The thing is I cannot understand why you would rather have a Bo1 instead of a more skillbased Bo3. Why would you want someone to luck a win against a better player (by cheese, build order win, etc.). I can imagine that there will be much cheese, since there is always a player, who thinks he is worse then his opponent. One way or another I cannot see anything, which shifts the favor into the Bo1 direction.

TL;DR:
Pls make a poll about Bo1 or Bo3.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
November 18 2011 17:52 GMT
#215
Were going to play bo1 because we are going with a bo7 format so more people can play bo3 for every match would just take too much time. I also think that bo1 games in a team format are really fun to play and exciting.

Games can be played concurrently as long as you make sure you get all the maps in correctly and send the replays to the provided email quickly.

If there are lat problems then someone can host and leave the game immediately. If for some reason they have a conflict after that then the teams simply need to send other players so people can play. Please open your ports if you can.

If enough players do not show up to the match then you get walk-overs for how many maps you cannot field a player on. Obviously if you win 3 matches then you can send one of your previous players for the deciding match. If a player on your team never responded to initial contact please send me a PM so that we can resolve the issue.
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2609 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 18:18:56
November 18 2011 18:15 GMT
#216
But if the games can be played concurrently then the whole clanwar will be over after about 30 minutes (10 minutes orga + 1 x 20 mins average each game). I really cannot see how about 1 hour for a clanwar can be too long?

Anyways one more point I want to know, why no observer? If both players agree and it is not laggy, then why not? In the end this is a FUNleague and why would anyone would cheat in such a league? Seriously when this league consists of Bo1, then you can play it consecutively, so more people can enjoy the war.

Just make a rule "If one player complains ingame about lag, then every obs needs to leave". If a Obs does not leave the game, he will be banned from obsing for the rest of the league.
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S2Glow
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Singapore1042 Posts
November 18 2011 19:28 GMT
#217
If people cant create just let someone who can create to make lol simple

No observer cause some might steal other player play style ( oh well , this is the only reason i could think of ) but i personally dont mind having observer =P

and please bo1 lol , bo3 is boring , dont have the excitement , bo1 you can cheese and win, bo3 is harder .
<3 Katelyn , C Zerg. Dying wish is to watch proleague live and see my girlfriend which gonna be soon! <33
PoPiaPanG
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2 Posts
November 18 2011 20:31 GMT
#218
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Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
November 18 2011 20:39 GMT
#219
You guys forget we have 9 weeks of games.. A bo3 would be great if it was one set or two sets, but we have 9 and then playoffs. Plus there is the holiday season coming up.. Its best to stick to a bo1 so people can commit to other things in their lives over the weekends. At least for the first season. Keep the bo7 CobaltBlu.

What happens if we don't get 6 players? I have a feeling that we should either drop it to a bo5 or allow one or two people to play twice incase their teams dont all show. Maybe make it so that if player A plays twice (excluding Ace match) week 1, he cannot play twice again until all other players have played twice. This would allow for a lot of flexiblity for the holiday season as I'm sure a lot of people will be traveling and we have 80 players to accommodate (I know I will.. And I dunno what my internet scene will be like when I'm not home...)

Also, do the games HAVE to be played at 8am PST? If both teams agree, can we push it back to like mid-day? (Assuming most players are in the West Coast and all agree). I dunno about you guys, but I don't play my beset that early in the morning I know we have a lot of people to accommodate around the world.. some people have to stay up till 3am or something ridiculous. So maybe have a rule that all games must be reported by Sunday night, and players can work among themselves over the weekend or week to . For organization's sake I think each team should select a 'captain' and report that person to CobaltBlu so he can bold the captain's name in the player roster. This would allow any player from to contact a person form a given team if needed to reschedule a game or something.

I dunno.. lol just throwing out ideas.. thoughts?
Jaedong.
CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 21:53:06
November 18 2011 21:52 GMT
#220
While chrisolo needs to accept that the matches are going to be a bo1 this time around I am considering introducing some flexibility into the play time. I can't micromanage all of that however and I would need teams that are having difficulty playing at the appointed time to contact each other, come to an agreement and contact me with a new play time afterwards.

The obs rule is in place so there aren't ten complaints every weekend that obs made the game lag or obs was cheating. If someone wants to watch a game that badly they can watch a replay or ask for their teams games to be streamed.
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