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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-26 21:44:31
January 26 2007 15:17 GMT
#1
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thanks to funkie for the round of 8 banner!



On thursday the MSL continued with two bo3 series for the winners. Winning this week meant a place in the semi-finals, fame, and all the ladies. Here were the matchups:

Group A
Bisu[Shield] vs Light[Alive]

Maps: Desert Fox / Reverse Temple / BlitzX

Group B
BiFrost vs SaviOr

Maps: Longinus II / Desert Fox / Reverse Temple



Set One: Bisu[Shield] vs Light[Alive]

Game One: Desert Fox
*Note, skip half way through this video for the game if you are not interested in the pregame speaking



Note: To watch the games in full screen, you need to visit the video on the Google site. You can find this game here.

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Try as he might, Bisu was simply unable to secure an expansion outside his island, as Light played the perfect expo denial game. Thus, carrier tech was somewhat impotent with only two gas, and could not give Bisu the victory.


Game Two: Reverse Temple



Note: To watch the games in full screen, you need to visit the video on the Google site. You can find this game here.

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Bisu's fine early game dragoon control combined with some reaver harass really set Light on the defensive. This opening give Bisu the chance to go for some early carriers while still holding the play in the battlefield. Onec his air force grew, he abused the terrain of the map for maximum damage.


Game Three: BlitzX



Note: To watch the games in full screen, you need to visit the video on the Google site. You can find this game here.

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A 14 Nexus vs proxy barracks usually goes the terran's way, but Bisu countered with a handful of hero probes and some nice micro. With the initial attack squandered, it was all downhill as Bisu teched to reavers. It looked like Sea[Shield] vs rA on Rush Hour... except for the outcome.




Set Two: BiFrost vs Savior

Game One: Longinus II



Note: To watch the games in full screen, you need to visit the video on the Google site. You can find this game here.

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Savior doesnt nine pool a lot... but it is still a card he can pull out of his hat now and then. With terran players expanding like zergs these days, Savior showed BiFrost a "manner up" build.


Game Two: Desert Fox



Note: To watch the games in full screen, you need to visit the video on the Google site. You can find this game here.

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This game showed what we all knew about Desert Fox to begin with. Terran can simply sit in their base and macro, while their zerg and protoss opponents can throw every creative angle at them but stil lose.


Game Three: Reverse Temple



Note: To watch the games in full screen, you need to visit the video on the Google site. You can find this game here.

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You cant cheese saviOr. He will eat your soul.




Current Standings

Check out jkillashark's Results and Standings thread for the big picture, all the results, and what is left for this, the tenth MSL.

Next week is do or die week for these players:
Hwasin vs Light
Nal_rA vs BiFrost

Stay Tuned!
Mani.
ModeratorGodfather
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
January 26 2007 15:35 GMT
#2
Mani strikes again! Brilliant report as usual
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
January 26 2007 16:31 GMT
#3
Savior has humongous testicular fortitude.

I <3 it.

I always insist that B-Net players always try to emulate pro's and 12hatch/FE/14CC every game, which makes early pool so effective.
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asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1602 Posts
January 26 2007 17:45 GMT
#4
You cant cheese saviOr. He will eat your soul.

So true :>
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
January 26 2007 18:08 GMT
#5
On January 27 2007 02:45 asel wrote:
You cant cheese saviOr. He will eat your soul.

So true :>

reach won with 2 proxy gates a while ago hehe -.-
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
January 26 2007 18:28 GMT
#6
Reach has no soul, thus the victory.
ModeratorGodfather
psychosis
Profile Joined November 2006
Sweden107 Posts
January 26 2007 19:43 GMT
#7
"This game showed what we all knew about Desert Fox to begin with. Terran can simply sit in their base and macro, while their zerg and protoss opponents can throw every creative angle at them but stil lose."

That was cute. What is it zergs usually say to tosses who complain? Learn to play? Adapt? :p


And it was not like Bifrost just sat there doing nothing.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-26 19:54:06
January 26 2007 19:53 GMT
#8
On January 27 2007 04:43 psychosis wrote:
"This game showed what we all knew about Desert Fox to begin with. Terran can simply sit in their base and macro, while their zerg and protoss opponents can throw every creative angle at them but stil lose."

That was cute. What is it zergs usually say to tosses who complain? Learn to play? Adapt? :p


And it was not like Bifrost just sat there doing nothing.

+ Show Spoiler +

Mani isn't a zerg player.

And he savior had like 4-5 bases using everything but hive tech and all the guydid was macro dropship mnm valk and drop his main gg.
psychosis
Profile Joined November 2006
Sweden107 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-26 21:01:52
January 26 2007 21:00 GMT
#9
On January 27 2007 04:53 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2007 04:43 psychosis wrote:
"This game showed what we all knew about Desert Fox to begin with. Terran can simply sit in their base and macro, while their zerg and protoss opponents can throw every creative angle at them but stil lose."

That was cute. What is it zergs usually say to tosses who complain? Learn to play? Adapt? :p


And it was not like Bifrost just sat there doing nothing.

+ Show Spoiler +

Mani isn't a zerg player.

And he savior had like 4-5 bases using everything but hive tech and all the guydid was macro dropship mnm valk and drop his main gg.


+ Show Spoiler +

Was just a general statement in regards to how zergs, and others, always say "stfu and learn to play" when someone mention anything that can be transalated to "PvZ imba". But they, the zergs, love to complain about how air maps are "anti-zerg". Maybe the same mentallity is valid there as well? "STFU and learn to play".

And I disagree with your view of the game. Savior didn't throw all he had at Bifrost. He did a couple of fast lurker drops but after that it was Bifrost that constantly attacked and savior defending. He did that defending quite well I thought. Scourged quite a lot of Dropships. If he had held for a tad longer the outcome could have been win for him. Bifrost was running out of recourses. Savior never got to hive tech 'tho. This game, game 2, was definalty the best game out of the 3. The 2 others was just boring rushes by savior. Well executed, but boring.


Oh. Almost forgot again >.<

Great report otherwise. Thanks for neverending contibutions and feeding us with news and events from Korean Pro Scene, Mani.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 26 2007 21:03 GMT
#10
hey mani, sweet report as usual, but i'm gonna nitpick at a typo "Reerse Temple"
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psychosis
Profile Joined November 2006
Sweden107 Posts
January 26 2007 21:11 GMT
#11
On January 27 2007 06:03 alffla wrote:
hey mani, sweet report as usual, but i'm gonna nitpick at a typo "Reerse Temple"


You just did :D
SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
January 26 2007 21:25 GMT
#12
Great reports Maniefrsto7, I don't have time right now to watch them, because i gotta go to work. But as soon as I get home I'll definitely watch them. GJ!!!! >
The Prince of DroneS
Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
January 26 2007 21:37 GMT
#13
loooooooooooooooool

You cant cheese saviOr. He will eat your soul.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
January 26 2007 21:49 GMT
#14
On January 27 2007 06:00 psychosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2007 04:53 Slayer91 wrote:
On January 27 2007 04:43 psychosis wrote:
"This game showed what we all knew about Desert Fox to begin with. Terran can simply sit in their base and macro, while their zerg and protoss opponents can throw every creative angle at them but stil lose."

That was cute. What is it zergs usually say to tosses who complain? Learn to play? Adapt? :p


And it was not like Bifrost just sat there doing nothing.

+ Show Spoiler +

Mani isn't a zerg player.

And he savior had like 4-5 bases using everything but hive tech and all the guydid was macro dropship mnm valk and drop his main gg.


+ Show Spoiler +

Was just a general statement in regards to how zergs, and others, always say "stfu and learn to play" when someone mention anything that can be transalated to "PvZ imba". But they, the zergs, love to complain about how air maps are "anti-zerg". Maybe the same mentallity is valid there as well? "STFU and learn to play".

And I disagree with your view of the game. Savior didn't throw all he had at Bifrost. He did a couple of fast lurker drops but after that it was Bifrost that constantly attacked and savior defending. He did that defending quite well I thought. Scourged quite a lot of Dropships. If he had held for a tad longer the outcome could have been win for him. Bifrost was running out of recourses. Savior never got to hive tech 'tho. This game, game 2, was definalty the best game out of the 3. The 2 others was just boring rushes by savior. Well executed, but boring.


Oh. Almost forgot again >.<

Great report otherwise. Thanks for neverending contibutions and feeding us with news and events from Korean Pro Scene, Mani.


Im not talking about racial imbalance, I am talking about map imbalance. This map is unbalanced because terran does not need to take the risk of expanding outside their island to win, but both protoss and zerg do. Combine that with the ease of their fast expansion, and I think that this map is an easy map for terran.

Bifrost didnt do anything other than send dropships about. He did not have to take any kind of gamble, and stared at the same quater of the screen all game long.

As for Savior's "boring" rushes, well I consider them builds that counter the FE arrogance of terrans these days, who feel that they can expand behind one rax, one rine, and a placed depot. Boring it may be, it is savior destroying their ability to use those builds vs him in the future, which is extremely valuable.

ModeratorGodfather
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
January 26 2007 22:09 GMT
#15
On January 27 2007 06:49 Manifesto7 wrote:
As for Savior's "boring" rushes, well I consider them builds that counter the FE arrogance of terrans these days, who feel that they can expand behind one rax, one rine, and a placed depot.


Exactly.
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Adamthegreat
Profile Joined February 2003
Sweden1179 Posts
January 26 2007 23:23 GMT
#16
Wow.. Bifrost really had lousy micro in the last game.. he had like 10 SCV and 2 marines ready when 6 zerglings came.. and still managed to screw up..
-_-v
Cpt Obvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany3073 Posts
January 26 2007 23:31 GMT
#17
nice.

Bisu's games were better than Savior's tho.
Nobody ever reads signatures of people like me, do they?
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-26 23:59:47
January 26 2007 23:59 GMT
#18
its very interesting how savior did 5 pool but only made up to 5 drones, then 1 overlord, rather than 6 drones and be at 6/9 control. i didn't think that was possible to accumulate 150 minerals that way
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
January 27 2007 00:00 GMT
#19
Gogo Bisu!! <3
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
AmorVincitOmnia
Profile Joined March 2005
Kenya3846 Posts
January 27 2007 00:04 GMT
#20
lmao bisu seriously just cock slapped light in game 3.
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