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iAmBiGbiRd
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia1029 Posts
December 10 2010 08:47 GMT
#741
Yo IdrA make me your coach and ill probably buy you a beer every now and again and take you clubbing....hope that was as productive as the multiple 6000 word essays written above me much love
Hello friends:)
SlapMySalami
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
December 10 2010 11:07 GMT
#742
On December 10 2010 01:29 IdrA wrote: + Show Spoiler +

On December 10 2010 00:47 KimchiBreath wrote:
Hi Greg,

I'd like to give a brief introduction of myself. Without disclosing any personal details, I would like to point out that I'm a final year law student in one of the top Australian law schools. I have secured a few internships in the past two years and will be entering one the top firms in Australia in 2012.

The reason I point this out is to separate myself from the general demographic population on this site consisting of adolescents and teenagers who are both immature and quick to judge. I see myself as a well rounded individual.

Similarly to you, I find it unnecessary to moderate my language and my wording to attempt to be modest. The fact is that what you achieve means a lot more than how many faces you can make smile. As we both know, the truth can often hurt.

To give you a little perspective, I am not a good Starcraft II player. I've played a total of 200 games over the last few weeks. I have not learnt the proper hot keys or any strategies. I did however manage to get to platinum with about a 60% win ratio over a span of two days. The purpose of my communication with you is not to discuss aspects of the game but to give some constructive criticisms of your attitude and work ethic. What I say henceforth may not be useful but I hope it does give some further perspective to your current training regime.

First of all, I'd like to give my opinion in that I do not think that you should be coaching. This distracts from your training and will affect your time allocation for personal development. While there is some correlation between teaching others and self realization of mistakes, the benefit of doing so is greatly outweighed by the fact you are teaching material that you have already consolidated. This will subconsciously tend to prevent you from challenging your own build orders, and understanding of the game.

My train of thought derives from the fact that a good teacher generally must have a uncontested view that what he is teaching is correct. Given the perpetual changes in the dynamics of the game, I think having this view will tend to prevent you from improving. The extra time can be used for more useful things such as studying new concepts, replays and personal reflection. Keep in mind how none of the coaches of any proteams ever take dual roles and no coach is ever a good player. In my opinion, you should not be continuing coaching despite the monetary rewards involved.

I take the same view in terms of casting. I personally enjoy your commentary more than any other of your fans. I find them one of the most insightful things that I can learn other than playing the game. However, even more than hearing you commentate, I want to see you win the next GSL. Casting will give away your mentality of thinking, opening up the space for potential opponents with access to a translator to pick away at your tactics. I advise against it.

More importantly though Greg, I feel that you need a competent coach that can constantly discuss build orders and timings with you. Part of your failure in Starcraft 1, along with Ret and even Chinese players like Luo Xian (Legend), was that within the progaming houses, there were language barriers. However, that in itself would not have been bad, if not for the prejudicial views that Koreans hold of foreigners. This doesn't come as a surprise considering that Koreans are the most xenophobic people in the world. They are just very good at hiding it. To that extent, I can fully understand why you choose not to share tactics with other Korean gamers.

Many foreigners so far are too naive or are too insecure to accept this as a reality. I remember that when Luo Xian was playing for SKT T1, he often beat Stork, Bisu, Boxer in games. He had a particularly good in house win ratio against Fantasy in practice games. In an interview, he raised that he used to own Fantasy in almost every game. Despite this, the reason he gave of leaving the scene was that the Korean coaches helped players like Fantasy reach their potential by nurturing them, giving them consistent advice and pointing out tiny details and weaknesses in their game.

LX felt neglected and especially frustrated that, whether it was because he was a foreigner or whether it was because he couldn't speak the language, he received none of that treatment and in return found there to be no need to stay in the country.

Back to the point, I think the reason why Starcraft 1 progamers succeeded to some extent was due to the help of coaching staff. A person has only so much time to both practice and produce working build orders. Having a coach allowed the player to focus on executing the mechanics and the intricate timings that are necessary. The coach would then take on the role of pointing out the flaws of the player that may not be known to the player themselves. It was also for the coach to suggest possible new surprise builds and outstanding situations that may occur. Absent of a coach, a player needs to prorate their time more strictly. This detracts overall from the quality of the training.

If we look at what history has taught us, we will see that many of the greatest achievers thrive in specialisation. Those with gifts in the field of science, engineering, law and medicine, or sports like fencing, chess, badminton, often know very little other than what they do. Those at the very apex of their chosen profession, sacrifice a great deal of their personal or academic life in pursuit of specializing in their chosen fields. Geniuses are almost always obsessive, judges often have no life other than law, and scientists are often inarticulate in expressing thought coherently other than in mathematical algorithm. You need to ask yourself Greg, what you've done to reach the 'apex' of your profession. Also ask yourself whether coaching or making streams is really going to make you win the next GSL.

As much as you might hate it, perhaps it's time to force yourself to create an extremely strict practice schedule and employ someone who you think would qualify as a competent coach. Otherwise, allocate time in the week to make a particular schedule. As much as you hate training back in the CJ house, I believe there must be some merit in practicing relentlessly the same build over and over again. In one of Nestea's interview (yes I know you don't look fondly on Nestea), he said he practiced about a hundred over games of the same build to prepare. In many sports like badminton and snooker, the same stroke is often practiced hundreds of times to promote consistency.

I enjoy watching your games and I hope you get far Greg. I hope any of these criticisms with help with your development in the game. Perhaps you, Ret, Jinro and a Protoss of your choice can form a trust between yourselves so as to improve without holding anything back. Understandably, you enjoy the publicity you are now receiving. However try not to let that get to you too much. Think only of winning and reward the fans with lip service when you take home the GSL. Good luck Idra, and I'll be continuing to support you.

sc2 requires 5 games a day and a lucky coin



haaaaaa dreamhack
marineking will u huk my bigtt1 ilu
unoriginalname
Profile Joined November 2010
England380 Posts
December 10 2010 11:24 GMT
#743
On December 10 2010 15:06 KimchiBreath wrote:
Preliminary comments... etc


The EG house is supposedly set for February, so I assume team-mates will perhaps fulfil the training that IdrA wants, which I assume will be more beneficial than laddering if only to hide certain strategies?

Jinro mentioned he trained from 2pm to 5am each day, which is a stark contrast to IdrA's preferred 8 hours and I'd say they're perhaps on an equal level in terms of skill, I think Tyler trains much much less then either of those and didn't he win a show match against IdrA?
Hmmm
willeesmalls
Profile Joined March 2010
United States477 Posts
December 10 2010 12:37 GMT
#744
On December 10 2010 15:06 KimchiBreath wrote:

...

Firstly, no means am I a fan of using jargon to construct convoluted passive sentences with double negatives and nominalizations to get a point across. In the post to Greg, I wrote so much as a sign of respect.

...


This one had me rolling.

I believe the TL:DR version of this is "sorry i'll try not to write so much."
Essentia
Profile Joined July 2010
1150 Posts
December 10 2010 12:41 GMT
#745
On December 10 2010 01:34 BattelKruizr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 01:29 IdrA wrote:
sc2 requires 5 games a day and a lucky coin


Idra... when are you going to try new builds?

I am sure you can pwn these noobs so hard if you just think outside the box instead of doing the same weak 14 hatch 15 pool or 14 pool 15 hatch whatever build. You end up dumping 800+ minerals into stuff that doesn't pay off early game (2 hatches 2 queens) and the terran runs in with like 4 marines and some scvs and rolls you.

I hate watching these matches.

plz try something new

Ty


LOL u spend ur first post at TL.net to show how moronic u are. u lack the knowledge of a bronze player man. Do you even know how zerg operates? What build do you suggest then?
Ganjamaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Argentina475 Posts
December 10 2010 14:28 GMT
#746
Lawyer dude is epic troll, there is no other way around it. I refuse to believe he is serious.
My hoes be the thickest, my dro.. the stickiest
101998
Profile Joined December 2010
United States318 Posts
December 10 2010 19:19 GMT
#747
[image loading]

please tell me this actually happened.
BasedSwag
Profile Joined April 2010
Algeria418 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 20:16:56
December 10 2010 20:16 GMT
#748
On December 11 2010 04:19 101998 wrote:
[image loading]

please tell me this actually happened.


It did, but please don't tell me you're assuming he wasn't intending to apologize for mistakenly calling him "Grack".
CatsPajamas
Profile Joined October 2010
United States337 Posts
December 10 2010 23:24 GMT
#749
On December 10 2010 15:06 KimchiBreath wrote:
I personally would not advocate it nevertheless.


The fact that you said this makes me discredit the whole "pretentious lawyer" persona you were trying to push on us. "I personally would not advocate it nevertheless????" Are you kidding me? Repetitive words do not make intelligent speech. How about "I wouldn't advocate it." Of course you meant "personally." YOU USED THE WORD "I." HOW MUCH MORE PERSONAL DOES IT GET? And then to throw in nevertheless? Unnecessary. In regards to your post, you're attempting to live vicariously through Greg now. Basically, you're stating that, "I'm a bad Starcraft player, but because I'm a pretentious lawyer, I'm on the same mental plane of existence that Greg is, and I'll use that to believe that I'm having a real effect on a pro Starcraft player by sending him this BEAUTIFULLY crafted essay." Please, back off, make concise points, and get over yourself. Christ.

Anyway, to Greg, I love watching your stream and matches. I'm an aspiring esports broadcaster, and cannot wait until I have the pleasure of casting one of your matches live. Keep on fighting, and I'll be there to root for you every step of the way.
http://twitter.com/kevinknocke
Mintastic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States166 Posts
December 11 2010 02:23 GMT
#750
On December 11 2010 05:16 BasedSwag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2010 04:19 101998 wrote:
[image loading]

please tell me this actually happened.


It did, but please don't tell me you're assuming he wasn't intending to apologize for mistakenly calling him "Grack".

I'm assuming the opposite of an apology for the lulz. It facilitates the baller version of Boxer that I have in my head.
테징징
KimchiBreath
Profile Joined August 2010
31 Posts
December 11 2010 05:02 GMT
#751
+ Show Spoiler +
The fact that you said this makes me discredit the whole "pretentious lawyer" persona you were trying to push on us.


I'm not trying to put on my 'pretentious lawyer' hat. More so, I don't find these posts discrediting what I have said on the form that my sentences are constructed as very useful or relevant.

I'd prefer if any discussion of what I've written, despite the fact it was directed at Greg not the general public, to be channeled to the content and not the form of my sentences. I fully understand that some of the language I've used could be simplified but I feel that doing so would detract from unanimity in the overall tone and syntax of my paragraphs. Furthermore, the possibly vestigial words often added emphasis where required, which I find to be useful despite the harsh criticism received for them.
mmx
Profile Joined October 2010
41 Posts
December 11 2010 06:36 GMT
#752
idra i have been trying to get you this new build order mysefl and a few guys have made we havent lost a single game on ladder in the 2500's since and we havent perfected it.

i wana give you some replays and see what you think as i believe it can really push you over the top
Substancer
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada36 Posts
December 11 2010 06:36 GMT
#753
Someone please get a mod to Grack Attack this troll outta idra's thread.

In the meantime, idra just got matched with Huk on the stream. Awesome!
-ZiG-
Profile Joined November 2010
United States84 Posts
December 11 2010 06:36 GMT
#754
lol talk about luck of the draw gg gl against huk haha
Lets ride
PARK3RIN0
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia1 Post
December 11 2010 06:39 GMT
#755
Since no GSL until next week, will you be streaming all night?
Joementum
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
787 Posts
December 11 2010 06:49 GMT
#756
What's today's music?
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
Megelrov
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark95 Posts
December 11 2010 06:53 GMT
#757
Hey Idra awesome stream! I have one request though, move the Ustream banner from the top right to the top left, u can do it somewhere in ustream settings, cause right now its covering ur food supply.

Best regards from DK
BuzzKerbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia46 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 06:54:00
December 11 2010 06:53 GMT
#758
Kimchi for someone studying to become a lawyer your not too bright, although this is the most entertainment I have had on these forums yet.

First try becoming much better at the game along with much more experience in the starcraft community, then become REAL LIFE friends with some pro players, then when they ask you for advice feel free to then gush all you want.

Greg's response to your initial post should have been clear enough.

I think you should be TL's token try hard, with your own tag.

Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
December 11 2010 06:59 GMT
#759
Dear Greg,
Hire me as your life coach.

Qualifications:
- Possess coin with two heads.

Thanks,
Pyrrhuloxia
Pro]ChoSen-
Profile Joined December 2008
United States318 Posts
December 11 2010 07:02 GMT
#760
Such an awesome stream, very fun to watch
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