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Rmdy
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Aegeis
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Darkzler
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Aegeis
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Glowbox
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Andorra
Andorra64 Posts
On May 30 2011 07:06 Glowbox wrote: Hahah Debo on Destiny's stream currently commenting on the whole language issue. Hilarious. Somebody needs to bookmark that JTV bit, so RT can upload it to youtube once he gets back. Also: ♥Bonnell-Debo 2012♥ :D | ||
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onymous
United States67 Posts
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
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epikAnglory
United States1120 Posts
On May 28 2011 08:50 Rmdy wrote: steven is a a vicious foe when playing vs. him, but incredibly well mannered when coaching :-P I have seen him troll his students for about 10 minutes, but all in all just for fun. Would definitely get coaching from him if I was a Zerg player, (he also raised his price >=O) | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
Nvm, his website tt Not a bad stream. I don't understand the huge number of viewers, but all in all he seems like a nice guy. | ||
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Taiyoken
Canada130 Posts
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Maliris
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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xOtit
United States253 Posts
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KimJongChill
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bode927
United States164 Posts
Inc stated that if you're going to be a spokesperson for sc2, you have to censor yourself. Destiny's response was something like, i don't try to be a spokesperson for sc2. Let me ask this... Did Michael Jordan have a choice as to whether or not he represented the NBA when he was a player? No. His actions were closely watched. I think that as SC2 grows, players like Destiny, incontrol, idra, and other people like Djwheat, Day9, artosis, etc are going to become the michael jordans of SC2. If they play sc2 as pro gamers or as commentators, they will be the voice that sponsors like razor, steelseries, etc see first when they decide whether or not they will sponsor esports. So, whether or not some of destiny's comments are ultimately right or wrong, we need to look at how such sponsors are going to view the specific language that was discussed on SotG. That kind of language could very easily affect whether or not certain sponsors choose to support SC2. I know that Destiny's claim is that he doesn't want this kind of notoriety, or that he doesn't want to gain the kind of fans that are offended by his language, but I want to know if it's worth it to potentially hold back the whole SC2 E-sports scene, just to maintain his image among his current stream fans. | ||
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Squalish
United States137 Posts
it was also disappointing in the sotg that the word rape was focused on rather than the n word steven uses; which there is no argument for context in like there is with rape, which is the basis for his whole argument. | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
You posted that exact same shit in the sotg thread, and someone responded with a very good post. On June 01 2011 16:10 emesen wrote: SC2 does not equal the NBA. SC2 equals "basketball" MLG, NASL, IPL, GSL those are analogous to the NBA. the NBA employed Michael Jordan. Like how MLG and the other esports leagues employ the casters you listed. SC2 does not employ Destiny. He uses SC2 as a means to make a living. | ||
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isM
United States735 Posts
On June 01 2011 15:53 bode927 wrote: I'm just gonna say one thing on the Destiny vs iNcontroL argument that happened on SotG earlier. Inc stated that if you're going to be a spokesperson for sc2, you have to censor yourself. Destiny's response was something like, i don't try to be a spokesperson for sc2. Let me ask this... Did Michael Jordan have a choice as to whether or not he represented the NBA when he was a player? No. His actions were closely watched. I think that as SC2 grows, players like Destiny, incontrol, idra, and other people like Djwheat, Day9, artosis, etc are going to become the michael jordans of SC2. If they play sc2 as pro gamers or as commentators, they will be the voice that sponsors like razor, steelseries, etc see first when they decide whether or not they will sponsor esports. So, whether or not some of destiny's comments are ultimately right or wrong, we need to look at how such sponsors are going to view the specific language that was discussed on SotG. That kind of language could very easily affect whether or not certain sponsors choose to support SC2. I know that Destiny's claim is that he doesn't want this kind of notoriety, or that he doesn't want to gain the kind of fans that are offended by his language, but I want to know if it's worth it to potentially hold back the whole SC2 E-sports scene, just to maintain his image among his current stream fans. I really dislike this stance, who says that SC2 or e-sports have to follow the path of every other given sport? Steelseries and Razer must sponsor e-sports if they want to sell products as that the demographic they are catering to. It would be terrible business sense to completely ignore e-sports. Lets face it Destiny is one of the most popular SC2 streamers and history tells us that controversy draws more attention than following the mold so Destiny will not be the one to hold back e-sports. Also e-sports does not need to follow the path of every other sport, it will need to forge its own path for success. | ||
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bode927
United States164 Posts
On June 01 2011 16:38 isM wrote: I really dislike this stance, who says that SC2 or e-sports have to follow the path of every other given sport? Steelseries and Razer must sponsor e-sports if they want to sell products as that the demographic they are catering to. It would be terrible business sense to completely ignore e-sports. Lets face it Destiny is one of the most popular SC2 streamers and history tells us that controversy draws more attention than following the mold so Destiny will not be the one to hold back e-sports. Also e-sports does not need to follow the path of every other sport, it will need to forge its own path for success. The reasoning behind thinking it will follow the path of other sports is not because its a "sport" or that it isn't a sport. Its that it gains popularity among the public first, and just like any sport, it gains money both from its spectators and its sponsors. Certainly I would not argue that their paths are identical, but they surely move in the same general direction. Of course sponsors need to advertise to sell their products, but in the same way, esports, or any for-profit event or company needs people to want to advertise. You're merely defining how advertising works... Destiny draws attention among the internet community. As the community branches out when more people begin to sponsor and watch SC2, Destiny will be viewed by a wider audience, whether he asks for it or not. He IS a prominent voice. People may not be right in viewing what he does with a judgemental mindset, but regardless, there is a good chance that is what will happen. Is his type of language worth fighting for so much that we as a community should bother taking a setback just to save it? I think not? What's the point? What are people like himself sacrificing by bringing out a thesaurus for a few selective words in his common vocabulary? | ||
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