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On August 08 2012 09:56 drazak wrote:
Could you also give my your IP with the last 3 numbers x'd out fides? I'm waiting to hear back from R1CH but all the data I can compile helps!
98.200.116.xxx  thanks any help would be greatly appreciated not being able to watch streams anymore almost seems alien to me...
I normally will fall asleep every single night to some sortof stream it's kindof good sleep therapy tbh...it tires my eyes out (i have issues falling asleep so anything that helps is a lifesaver)
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Europeans can try to route the twitch geocheck over usa in order to receive traffic from the american content servers.
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I don't think that would create much of an improvement, icydegosu, as this is a premium stream I believe twitch is using it's premium content delivery services, which is well spread and peered around the world.
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On August 08 2012 09:56 drazak wrote:
Could you also give my your IP with the last 3 numbers x'd out fides? I'm waiting to hear back from R1CH but all the data I can compile helps!
idk if you messaged him with my ip info...but literally...the day after i posted that info the twitch storm suddenly stopped! After WEEKS of constant being trolled by lag it has come to an end.
hallelujah!
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If my info can help:
1. Who is your internet service provider?
Kabel Deutschland
2. Where are you located?
Nuremberg, Germany
3. What is your ip address, you can omit the last 3 digits? eg. 65.136.185.XXX instead of 65.136.185.80.
188.194.182.xxx (non static though)
Lagging @ 1080+ @ fights, or fast sequences, audio is fine.
Lagging @1080 every few seconds + fights or fast sequences badly, audio is fine
720 was fine last week today I get spikes there in fights
C:\Users\fushichou>tracert www.twitch.tv
Tracing route to a1694.w7.akamai.net [80.239.216.42]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms fritz.box [192.168.178.1]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 10 ms 13 ms 7 ms 88-134-220-30-dynip.superkabel.de [88.134.220.30]
4 172 ms 22 ms 14 ms 88-134-193-155-dynip.superkabel.de [88.134.193.155]
5 88 ms 22 ms 227 ms 88-134-196-54-dynip.superkabel.de [88.134.196.54]
6 20 ms 28 ms 25 ms 83-169-129-222.static.superkabel.de [83.169.129.222]
7 137 ms 107 ms 23 ms 88-134-201-117-dynip.superkabel.de [88.134.201.117]
8 17 ms 21 ms 16 ms bei-b2-link.telia.net [213.248.88.237]
9 25 ms 25 ms 24 ms ffm-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.254.228]
10 24 ms 24 ms 27 ms ffm-b12-link.telia.net [213.155.132.211]
11 26 ms 26 ms 25 ms 80-239-216-42.customer.teliacarrier.com [80.239.216.42]
Trace complete.
/edit: ok, right now (game 3 of Hack vs HasuObs) the stream is dying completely. Audio is fucked up and laggs increase
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ISP: Swisscom
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
IP: 92.105.12.XXX
360p-720p video and audio stuttering. Other streams work fine on 720p though.
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1. Who is your internet service provider?
NetAachen
2. Where are you located?
Aachen, Germany
3. What is your ip address, you can omit the last 3 digits? eg. 65.136.185.XXX instead of 65.136.185.80.
89.0.9.xxx nonstatic
Intro lagging everytime, big fights stuttering, overall often "squeezing" of the sound.
No problem with NASL FullHD though.
tracert:
+ Show Spoiler +
Routenverfolgung zu twitch.tv [199.9.250.76] über maximal 30 Abschnitte:
1 * <1 ms * fritz.box [192.168.178.1]
2 18 ms * 23 ms e320-zva1.netcologne.de [195.14.226.50]
3 17 ms * 17 ms TBA1.netcologne.de [78.35.33.237]
4 17 ms * 17 ms core-sto2-vl427.netcologne.de [78.35.33.221]
5 23 ms * 22 ms rtamsix-te33.netcologne.de [87.79.16.235]
6 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
7 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
8 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
9 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
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29 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
30 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
Ablaufverfolgung beendet.
once more:
(Notice: i tracerted twitch.tv but it forwarded to this below)
Routenverfolgung zu a1694.w7.akamai.net [95.100.249.42] über maximal 30 Abschni
te:
1 <1 ms * <1 ms fritz.box [192.168.178.1]
2 18 ms * 20 ms e320-zva1.netcologne.de [195.14.226.50]
3 18 ms * * TBA2.netcologne.de [78.35.33.241]
4 19 ms * 17 ms core-sto2-vl429.netcologne.de [78.35.33.229]
5 * 19 ms * core-pg2-vl503.netcologne.de [195.14.195.113]
6 18 ms * 19 ms rtint3-po5.netcologne.de [87.79.16.254]
7 19 ms * 25 ms akamai.dus.ecix.net [194.146.118.84]
8 20 ms * 28 ms 95.100.249.42
Ablaufverfolgung beendet.
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I experienced pretty horrible lag today on 1080p+, 1080p, and 720p. Draz I PM'd you with the details. The NASL stream I caught tonight was much better (Though still a little laggy).
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Pretty sure you need to be tracing to live.justin.tv, not the website. Or ideally the specific CDN server you are connected to.
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On August 13 2012 13:15 R1CH wrote:
Pretty sure you need to be tracing to live.justin.tv, not the website. Or ideally the specific CDN server you are connected to.
R1CH is one hundred percent correct here, however I would suggest that you not try to traceroute anything, as far as I'm aware, the player itself can determine which delivery server to use, in addition to the CDN doing load balancing. The only way to determine which delivery server you're connected to would be to examine your netstat -nm output or use wireshark, as this is somewhat of an advanced procedure I wouldn't suggest it for any of you.
In addition, since I have had so, so many replies, R1CH and I decided that the best way to handle it would be for people still having issues to fill out this form:
http://tinyurl.com/d8v8jpy
The form is completely confidential, only myself, R1CH, and twitch personnel who request access to the form will have access to the data contained within.
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I filled out the form. I hope you guys can get this figured out. As a note, today during the Monday TSL4 broadcast, the 1080p+ stream still lagged, but the 1080p stream was MOSTLY good (Occasional lag, mostly during TSL4 Intro Song). I did not try the 720p stream today since 1080p was watchable.
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I hope you guys can get this figured out. As a note, today during the Monday TSL4 broadcast, the 1080p+ stream still lagged, but the 1080p stream was MOSTLY good
i am kind of in agreement with dalekphalm, but for me it was just random lagg all over.. when watching an ovie and during intros etc.. but on regular 1080p (not +) it was watchable.. still a bit laggy, but overall fine..
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Is there anything that could be done? drazak do you work for Twitch? There seems to be a conflict with Twitch TV's Business model (they need to buy cheap traffic i assume, which obviously isn't all that great) and our desire to receive a high quality stream. It's not like we can force them to switch to Akamai.
Is it true that Twitch uses another CDN for their premium services? (i highly doubt it)
$ curl -O http://client.akamai.com/dlmtest/rand.bin
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
100 28.6M 100 28.6M 0 0 1516k 0 0:00:19 0:00:19 --:--:-- 1633k
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On July 06 2012 07:31 Liman wrote:
Lags badly at 720+
720 is just occasional lag.
Same here and I feel sabolutely the same like the OP but i've been able to watch at least lagfree most of the time 
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Some Chrome users report that disabling the "Pepperflash" plugin can help. To do this, go to chrome://plugins/ in your address bar, and click Disable on the pepflashplayer.dll plugin.
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