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drazak
United States479 Posts
1. Who is your internet service provider? 2. Where are you located? 3. What is your ip address, you can omit the last 3 digits? eg. 65.136.185.XXX instead of 65.136.185.80. I suspect the lag may be a result of bad peering between you and the nearest CDN point, I'd like to investigate this. Let me know in the thread or in pm. drazak | ||
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Supertopchecker
Germany18 Posts
Alice / o2 DSL 2. Where are you located? Germany 3. What is your ip address, you can omit the last 3 digits? eg. 65.136.185.XXX instead of 65.136.185.80. 78.53.127.xxx Lagging @ 1080+ @ fights, or fast sequences, audio is fine. Lagging @1080 every few seconds + fights or fast sequences badly, audio is fine 720+ watchable, but often lagging at the fights... so almost useless too, audio of course again fine. connection speed to LA @ 7mbits..... dont think it is provider or pc problem. | ||
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Squisher_
43 Posts
2. chicago 3. $ tracert www.twitch.tv Tracing route to a1694.w7.akamai.net [23.67.60.168] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 * * * Request timed out. 2 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms te-1-2-ur03.nchicago.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.86.118.57] 3 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms te-8-2-ur04.nchicago.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.231.86] 4 12 ms 15 ms 11 ms te-1-0-0-2-ar01.area4.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.86.187.217] 5 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms pos-3-5-0-0-cr01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.95.237] 6 12 ms 14 ms 11 ms be-10-pe03.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.84.86] 7 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms a23-67-60-168.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com [23.67.60.168] There is no way this is provider or pc. | ||
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schwinner
Germany1 Post
 This Problems only appear with streams on Twitch.tv i dont know what it is. | ||
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stoge89
Norway20 Posts
2. Where are you located? 3. What is your ip address, you can omit the last 3 digits? eg. 65.136.185.XXX instead of 65.136.185.80. 1. BKK with a 20/10 fibercable 2. Norway, Bergen 3. 192.168.0.xxx Lagging when watching a random pylon, lagging i fights, just lagging in general | ||
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drazak
United States479 Posts
On August 05 2012 21:55 stoge89 wrote: 1. Who is your internet service provider? 2. Where are you located? 3. What is your ip address, you can omit the last 3 digits? eg. 65.136.185.XXX instead of 65.136.185.80. 1. BKK with a 20/10 fibercable 2. Norway, Bergen 3. 192.168.0.xxx Lagging when watching a random pylon, lagging i fights, just lagging in general Thanks Stoge, everything here is useful except your your ip address, what you've given me is your internal IP address, which is provided by your router. You'll have to use something like http://ipchicken.com to get your external IP. | ||
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drazak
United States479 Posts
On August 05 2012 20:42 Squisher_ wrote: 1. comcast 2. chicago 3. $ tracert www.twitch.tv Tracing route to a1694.w7.akamai.net [23.67.60.168] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 * * * Request timed out. 2 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms te-1-2-ur03.nchicago.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.86.118.57] 3 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms te-8-2-ur04.nchicago.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.231.86] 4 12 ms 15 ms 11 ms te-1-0-0-2-ar01.area4.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.86.187.217] 5 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms pos-3-5-0-0-cr01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.95.237] 6 12 ms 14 ms 11 ms be-10-pe03.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.84.86] 7 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms a23-67-60-168.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com [23.67.60.168] There is no way this is provider or pc. A few things, to start, the traceroute you provided is unhelpful, Akamai is a CDN that twitch uses only for overflow on their stream, when you're actually watching a stream the client (the flash program) has various non-dns related (likely you got that end point out of load balancing at the dns level) ways to pick a CDN to get content from. Normally, for Comcast in chicago, you'll get something from twitch's internal CDN. You could try to find out what CDN you're using with netstat while watching a stream, but that would require a fair bit of knowledge. Another method would be to use wireshark as it can detect the RTMP protocol, this would require a lot less background knowledge to determine the CDN's address, but maybe some more knowledge to setup. In addition this traceroute is likely from a different hour than you were watching the stream. Your route to the server that the client is using will vary based on time of day and usage. Peering is quite strange in how it works, sometimes, one end will arrange for more bandwidth during what they think are peak hours, instead of on demand. This may lead their routes to be suboptimal during the hours you're trying to watch a stream. Finally, a traceroute only provides latency information, not throughput. It can give a good indication of what your throughput may be like, but it's no guaruntee. Akamai has infrastruction at most major ISPs to provide high throughput connections. Glossary: CDN = Content Delivery Network RTMP = Real Time Messaging Protocol, a protocol useful for sending encoded video and audio Peering = How various providers arrange routes across provider borders, can affect effective throughput greatly. | ||
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Tiwo
Netherlands306 Posts
 Edit: Ok, back to 720p, 1080p+ still lagged a few times. (1080p as well) Edit 2: 1. Who is your internet service provider? -Telfort 20Mbit 2. Where are you located? -The Netherlands, Rotterdam 3. What is your ip address, you can omit the last 3 digits? eg. 65.136.185.XXX instead of 65.136.185.80. -82.168.171.xxx | ||
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CableSCES
United States367 Posts
PS - Twitch chat for subscribers only is total garbage. Edit: 1. Who is your internet service provider? Cox Communications 2. Where are you located? Southern California 3. What is your ip address, you can omit the last 3 digits? 68.231.192.xxx | ||
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MetalSlug
Germany443 Posts
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Hirnfrost
Germany938 Posts
On August 06 2012 06:22 MetalSlug wrote: I get heavy lags and skips during the twitch ad and the TSL opening but not during the actual game which is kinda strange i gues.... same for me, during games the stream runs perfect. but intros and the twitch ad lag, both audio and video. | ||
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IcedBacon
Canada906 Posts
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MCMXVI
Norway1193 Posts
2. Location: Ski, Norway (near Oslo) 3. IP Information: 46.9.169.xxx Connection: Broadband, 25/5mbit Guess I could elaborate a bit. 720 and 480 is always lagging during big battles and the "vs." screen. 240 is "always" watchable for me, as it does not lag, but the PQ is of course horrendous. Own3d.tv and GomTV HQ never lags for me. | ||
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fatmanrocks
2 Posts
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FrogOfWar
Germany1406 Posts
On August 05 2012 18:38 drazak wrote: For those of you having lag, help me out, and maybe we can figure something out, please answer the following questions: 1. Who is your internet service provider? 2. Where are you located? 3. What is your ip address, you can omit the last 3 digits? eg. 65.136.185.XXX instead of 65.136.185.80. I suspect the lag may be a result of bad peering between you and the nearest CDN point, I'd like to investigate this. Let me know in the thread or in pm. drazak 1. Unitymedia 2. Germany 3. 178.203.29.xxx Lag on 720p during intros and when there is a lot going on (battles). Twitch.tv has always been the most troublesome streaming service for me. Would be cool if you could figure something out! | ||
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serum321
United States606 Posts
On August 06 2012 17:22 fatmanrocks wrote: TSL+ watcher here. I had been experiencing major lag and chop during the first broadcasts, and on twitch streams in general. Miraculously this weekend everything including 1080p+ is suddenly smooth as butter for TSL4 and other Twitch streams. No changes of anything on my end, did Twitch make some improvements? Midwest usa viewer. I've had just the opposite experience, last weekend everything was fine for me and this weekend I experienced lag, almost to the point it was unwatchable. | ||
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stoge89
Norway20 Posts
1. Who is your internet service provider? 2. Where are you located? 3. What is your ip address, you can omit the last 3 digits? eg. 65.136.185.XXX instead of 65.136.185.80. 1. BKK with a 20/10 fibercable 2. Norway, Bergen 3. 85.200.59.xxx | ||
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Fides
United States23 Posts
Houston Tx 25 mb/s internet with 18 ping i7 2600k rig all other streams (gomtv/own3d tv) stream fine at any resolution but twitch streams at 2step lag for almost every single stream i can't watch some of my favs anymore | ||
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drazak
United States479 Posts
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MrRicewife
Canada515 Posts
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