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Willzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom774 Posts
July 29 2012 21:10 GMT
#61
Still getting quite bad lag on the stream, never have problems with other streams.
SeriousLus
Profile Joined July 2012
169 Posts
July 29 2012 22:44 GMT
#62
just watched the stream @240p.. everything above was unwatchable as usual (dont know what it is about esp. this one)
normally i can watch quad steam 720p+ with no problems..
nemonic
Profile Joined November 2011
132 Posts
July 29 2012 22:48 GMT
#63
1080p Twitch streams have been lagging from Europe for a few months now. It's not unwatchable, but the vidoe hangs roughly every 20 seconds for 2-3 seconds (audio still plays fine). This gets really annoying after a while, especially when you paid for it. Twitch really should fix this in the near future.
FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
July 29 2012 23:00 GMT
#64
It works ok for me with only minor lag on 720p. I think you should contact twitch about this since tl.net probably can't do much about it.
Orzabal
Profile Joined December 2009
France287 Posts
July 30 2012 11:25 GMT
#65
I subscribe for TSL + and I have freez (perhaps 5 sec freez sometime).

Freezes are on 1080+p and 720p. It happens every time there is a lot of action. VOD works perfectly even in 1080.
Terric1o1
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany10 Posts
July 30 2012 17:14 GMT
#66
i watched in 720p and in every fight or high apm scene the video stoped, btw not the audio and after all was finished the video comes back!, so sometimes i wasn't able to watch who was the winner. very sad
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Pimpmuckl
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany528 Posts
July 31 2012 00:11 GMT
#67
I am lagging like nothing i ever saw before on all resolutions, could watch 1080p NASL/MLG without any problems but TSL just does not work for me at all
twitter.com/pimpmuckl
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
July 31 2012 00:43 GMT
#68
Try a speed test to Los Angeles at www.speakeasy.net/speedtest - if you don't come close to your rated Internet speed, or it starts off very slow and takes a long time to get up to speed, you probably need to tweak your TCP settings for handling higher bandwidth high latency links better. These apply to Windows 7, if you're on XP you really should upgrade since the XP TCP/IP stack is deficient in a number of areas.

Run a command prompt as admin and enter the following:
netsh interface tcp set global congestionprovider=ctcp


Turn off delayed-ack:
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13581-LeatrixLatencyFix.html

The 1080p+ stream runs at a fairly constant 3mbps give or take a few hundred kbps. The other options are all transcoded at an unbounded constant rate factor by Twitch. This means during low action such as looking at bases and during the pre / post game scenes, the bitrate will be very low as the scene isn't very complex. During high motion such as the intro and during battles, the bitrate will increase (sometimes very dramatically), and if your connection can't adapt to this sudden spike of data, your stream will lag.

I also think that Flash player has some problems in decoding higher bitrate H264 streams. I don't know if this is something twitch can resolve within the stream player or if it's an issue with flash player itself. Some people have reported that allowing unlimited storage can help (right click the video, settings, folder icon, unlimited) or that disabling hardware acceleration (right click the video, settings, untick hardware acceleration). You may also want to try disabling any 3rd party security / firewall software that could be interfering with the connection.
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Pentalpha
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany11 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 22:09:02
August 02 2012 13:51 GMT
#69
I can barely watch on 480p during TSL4 so i tried to adjust my tcp settings with the command line R1CH posted but it screwed everything up... Twitch.tv (and suprisingly own3d.tv) is not working AT ALL.
I get black screens all the time, cant watch here or directly at twitch. I havent found a way to undo the changes from the command; Windows restore-point is not helping and I hope you guys know a way to fix it without FORMAT C:\

*after 5th time of clearing cookies and reinstalling the flashplayer everything is back to normal... D:
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Pimpmuckl
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany528 Posts
August 02 2012 14:56 GMT
#70
On July 31 2012 09:43 R1CH wrote:
Try a speed test to Los Angeles at www.speakeasy.net/speedtest - if you don't come close to your rated Internet speed, or it starts off very slow and takes a long time to get up to speed, you probably need to tweak your TCP settings for handling higher bandwidth high latency links better. These apply to Windows 7, if you're on XP you really should upgrade since the XP TCP/IP stack is deficient in a number of areas.

Run a command prompt as admin and enter the following:
netsh interface tcp set global congestionprovider=ctcp


Turn off delayed-ack:
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13581-LeatrixLatencyFix.html

The 1080p+ stream runs at a fairly constant 3mbps give or take a few hundred kbps. The other options are all transcoded at an unbounded constant rate factor by Twitch. This means during low action such as looking at bases and during the pre / post game scenes, the bitrate will be very low as the scene isn't very complex. During high motion such as the intro and during battles, the bitrate will increase (sometimes very dramatically), and if your connection can't adapt to this sudden spike of data, your stream will lag.

I also think that Flash player has some problems in decoding higher bitrate H264 streams. I don't know if this is something twitch can resolve within the stream player or if it's an issue with flash player itself. Some people have reported that allowing unlimited storage can help (right click the video, settings, folder icon, unlimited) or that disabling hardware acceleration (right click the video, settings, untick hardware acceleration). You may also want to try disabling any 3rd party security / firewall software that could be interfering with the connection.


Try'd everything you suggested, i am absolutely sure it's on twitch's end, the ROG stream is stuttering just as the TSL stream did right now.
twitter.com/pimpmuckl
Werne79
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands6 Posts
August 04 2012 01:22 GMT
#71
i have a pretty up to date pc and my internet is great, but im have the same problem.
At 720p it lags really bad, and its not really lag it more of an 2-5 sec freeze.
When i turn it down to 480p it happend less, but i really want to watch it at high quality.
Im a big fan of TL and i think this is one of the better tournament out there so i hope they can fix it.
<3 TL
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AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
August 04 2012 20:51 GMT
#72
its not just tsl stream, lately every streams on twitch seems to lag for me -_-"
own3d.tv is perfectly fine tho
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MrRicewife
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada515 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 23:12:26
August 04 2012 23:10 GMT
#73
On July 31 2012 09:43 R1CH wrote:
Try a speed test to Los Angeles at www.speakeasy.net/speedtest - if you don't come close to your rated Internet speed, or it starts off very slow and takes a long time to get up to speed, you probably need to tweak your TCP settings for handling higher bandwidth high latency links better. These apply to Windows 7, if you're on XP you really should upgrade since the XP TCP/IP stack is deficient in a number of areas.

Run a command prompt as admin and enter the following:
netsh interface tcp set global congestionprovider=ctcp


Turn off delayed-ack:
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13581-LeatrixLatencyFix.html

The 1080p+ stream runs at a fairly constant 3mbps give or take a few hundred kbps. The other options are all transcoded at an unbounded constant rate factor by Twitch. This means during low action such as looking at bases and during the pre / post game scenes, the bitrate will be very low as the scene isn't very complex. During high motion such as the intro and during battles, the bitrate will increase (sometimes very dramatically), and if your connection can't adapt to this sudden spike of data, your stream will lag.

I also think that Flash player has some problems in decoding higher bitrate H264 streams. I don't know if this is something twitch can resolve within the stream player or if it's an issue with flash player itself. Some people have reported that allowing unlimited storage can help (right click the video, settings, folder icon, unlimited) or that disabling hardware acceleration (right click the video, settings, untick hardware acceleration). You may also want to try disabling any 3rd party security / firewall software that could be interfering with the connection.

Still getting lag. Nothing has changed since my OP.

Downloaded/installed delayed-ack

I'm getting "set global command failed on Ipv4 the requested operation requires elevation" when I type in your cmd.

Also, I am only getting 6mbps on a promised 50mbps connection. Not sure why. Maybe it is the TCP you speak of - but I just downloaded a movie last night at close to 3mbps.

I have been trying to watch TSL4 with several upsetting failures. I'm really frustrated and I know I am not the only one. The chat is full of lag lag lag. I'm venting more than anything, but I sure hope this gets fixed. I've watched all the other TSLs, with shittier connections, and a shittier computer, never any problems.

I do have a good computer with a 50mbps connection. I assume this is good enough to watch a stream.

Thank you for your time and effort - I know you are very busy.

Edit: I should add that all other streams I've watched are perfectly fine. I've never had an issue. Maybe once in a blue moon, and perhaps that was a twitch stream (never was aware).
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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
August 04 2012 23:25 GMT
#74
just thought i would post because im one of those people with a good stable connection who has always had problems with streams at 'random'. i had been unable to watch the intro to tsl, the stream had lagged out every time the intro started up, you know screen freeze but music plays...

i followed all the instructions from rich and im happy to say the stream has been absolutly flawless since. not sure which change it is that made the difference but it fixed it for me.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
August 05 2012 00:15 GMT
#75
The past few days/weeks has been really laggy for Twitch. I used to be able to watch things on 720/720+p without much of a problem, but these few days, everything's been laggy, even on 480p and sometimes on 360p. Players streams, OSL, ASUS ROG. Surprisingly TSL has been relatively smooth even though I had a lag spike.

Not sure if it's my connection though, but own3d seems to be quite smooth on HD and Speedtest seems fine, so I think it could be a Twitch problem.
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BesideHimself
Profile Joined November 2010
United States30 Posts
August 05 2012 02:20 GMT
#76
I noticed some lag but thought it was because I was gaming.

I thought this was strange because usually gaming doesn't make streams lag.

Just throwin' this on here.
“The purpose of life is to hydrogenate carbon dioxide."
Squisher_
Profile Joined August 2010
43 Posts
August 05 2012 04:20 GMT
#77
I have a high-end computer. No problems with any other 1080+ stream, but the TL one freezes on 720 whenever a big fight occurs (or whenever the intro plays). It wasn't any better today. I'm fairly sure the encoding settings need to be tweaked stream-side.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
August 05 2012 05:52 GMT
#78
We don't have any control over the encoding settings on the low resolution transcodes, they are managed by Twitch.
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
TL+ Member
PoliteElliot
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway1 Post
August 05 2012 06:11 GMT
#79
Ufff, I got lag on 1080p and 1080+. Every 15-20 seconds the video hangs for a couple of seconds but the audio continues. Its fine in 720p but I paid for 1080p Also, the chat didn't work. Had the same video issue with Twitch.tv during WCS Nordic finals. Yes, I've got broadband and an up-to-date PC.

Not a big deal and it was only 10 bucks, but irritating & I don't think I'll buy it again because I watched it in 720p. Did the 10 bucks go to TL or Twitch.tv?

Still, great tournamet, great matches and looking forward to the rest on it on VOD. Loved the casting too! Thanks TL!
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get in there
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom67 Posts
August 05 2012 08:31 GMT
#80
It did lag for me during the Intro, matches were ok
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