Hi. I used search. Maybe I failed, but I didn't find anything.
First off, I want to say I've watched the last 3 TSL. I loved it. I loved the casting, I loved the community coming together, I loved the rush and excitement of a new sport emerging from the scene. It's fantastic, and I was looking forward to TSL4 the second TSL 3 was over ( I even advocated for TSL to be quarterly).
Since TSL 4 has begun, I haven't been able to watch one match yet. Not even ONE match. Why do you ask? The stream lags, every 2 seconds, and it's the pause for 5 seconds lag. The lag that makes you want to punch your computer because you blame it on that. The lag that makes you rage quit games. I hate it. I hate it. And I thought it was all me. Until I asked in chat. And again. And again. Aaaand again. People were experiencing this with me.
Now I know many of you aren't experiencing it obviously - but there are a few out there, enough for me to say hey, anyone experiencing lag every time I turn the stream on and a couple people immediately respond, yes not watchable.
I've tried every browser available, I've tried turning off everything on my network. I've used the shittiest resolution. Reset my router. Etc. I've NEVER had a problem streaming ANY other tournament. EVER. GSL/NASL/GSTL/IGN/ even the takeTV 30k+ views, not a problem. On the highest qualities.
So - what gives? Am I broken? Are all those other people broken? How many people are experiencing this? What's the deal man?! I love TSL and I wanna watch damn it!!
i wasnt able to watch EU/NA qualifiers the past two days due to immense lag. the KR qualifier today works good on 720p. but the 720+ lags as hell though. could be some twitch tv issues again.
It's like I ask and shall receive. I've been able to watch shortly after I posted. It's nice. It's really nice. 720p, I can hear the casters, I can see what is happening. I am happy.
Please, please internet gods, do not play a nasty trick on me and take this away tomorrow. Please.
I lag too and was using 720p+. I always though "whatever+" was supposed to be the source stream and therefore the less prone to lags. I'll try regular 720p or 480p next time.
its the video that lags encoding-vise. i test recorded some twitch streams (rtmdpump) its a twitch problem the lags are actually in the video files, nothing you can do about on your end-side
I got freeze-frame like every big engagement and every now and then otherwise.. sound continues but frame is frozen for like 5-10sec. I never have any streaming problems otherwise, TSL stream is worst so far in this regard :<
Noticed every time they stream, i have a very good computer and 100mb down, it's not me, it doesn't seem to be twitch, please fix, i generally turn it off whenever i see it's lagging, and i'm definitely not the only person who does as such. This is only hurting TL and TL's sponsors.
On July 08 2012 11:34 yesrr wrote: doesn't lag at all, get a new computer with better processor, ram, gfx card
I guarantee i have a better computer in all respects than you and i lag every single time on the teamliquid stream, and never ever ever lag on ANY other stream, even at 1080p, 60fps, anything, please don't make random claims which don't make any sense and clearly show you have know idea what you're talking about. I can also guarantee that i have a better internet connection than you.
On July 08 2012 11:34 yesrr wrote: doesn't lag at all, get a new computer with better processor, ram, gfx card
Gosh I am so tired of people saying this...
Dude if we get laggs on streams, when we normaly can watch other streams on highest resolutions and now get laggs on even 480 n' less, why the heck should this problem by any means lie on our hardware?! Don't you think we would fix our hardware first before complaining (well probably most wont but still), goddamn!
On July 11 2012 09:21 R1CH wrote: For those of you who had consistent lag during the previous qualifiers, was today's cast any better?
i'm having no issues today so far. but i also skipped last weeks broadcast as the lag was pissing me off too much over the last qualifiers. i'm still not convinced by twitch though.
I fixed my lag issues by using an older version of flashplayer, version 11.3.300.257, instead of the latest version (11.3.300.265). I'm on Mozilla Firefox btw, in case that makes a difference as well.
google for the older version of flashplayer, or use this link
On July 12 2012 06:20 SanD__ wrote: Do you still have lag on twitch?
I fixed my lag issues by using an older version of flashplayer, version 11.3.300.257, instead of the latest version (11.3.300.265). I'm on Mozilla Firefox btw, in case that makes a difference as well.
google for the older version of flashplayer, or use this link
If you're using Firefox, you want version 11,3,300,262 over 11,3,300,257 as the latter had a stability problem on Mozilla-based browsers that was fixed to some degree with the former.
On July 11 2012 09:21 R1CH wrote: For those of you who had consistent lag during the previous qualifiers, was today's cast any better?
I've had problems with the TL stream ever since you went to twitch. The TL Open's last year and the TSL4 qualifiers have all been freezing for me. On every quality option. But today I could at least watch it at 480p fine. Still the same problem at 720+.
I have no idea why it's only your stream that I have this problem with, and it makes me nuts.
I'm using a Chrome browser and the stream is laggy. But not an all the time lag. It seems to lag really bad when I start up the stream and maintains lag for approx 5 mins then it seems to clear up. Periodic times of stream lag occur; but nothing to the point where I feel I need to pull my pitchfork and torch off the wall. I can notice a definite improvement in lag reduction from previous qualifiers. But I hope it continues to improve. Also I am in upstate NY. Thanks for your hard work R1CH!
Agree with the posters before me, it is definitely more laggy than it was yesterday. I don't know why though, I am currently watching other twitch streams and they are lag-free. :-(
Is it possible for you guys to provide an alternative stream?
Yesterday was unwatchable for me. Today's stream started out laggy but was fine after you guys reset it. However, I turned it off to eat dinner, came back, and now it's lagging like crazy again.
Had the same issues with frames freezing in big engagements but sound continuing without any indication of lag, once the fights are over you're just waiting to see what the players are left with after the engagement. And it's not only in the engagements, occasional frame freezes every now and then without anything significant happening.
Extremely frustrating trying to follow the qualifiers with these lag issues. Might aswell try having the audio only stream running .
yeah i felt lag a few times really. I have 200mbit internet the best internet you can have here in europe except the new 1Gbit. But i've never had any problems watching streams before. Something was wrong. Perhaps it was the new Shockwave player that was buggy? I've heard that it was very buggy with the new adobe flash player etc.
On July 13 2012 07:12 Agro_Z wrote: Hello, if anyone is experiencing video lag, but the audio is fine, go to flash settings and change your cache from 100KB to 1MB or 10MB.
edit: Might help some people, but still a bit laggy for me.
Thanks for your efforts to fix the problems. But instead of hoping that it works in the main broadcast can't you just do some test runs (just get some casters casting some weekly cup)? Or do you suspect that this problems only occurr above a certain number of watchers which is impossible to mobilize outisde the tsl?
Yeah when I test with just myself it works fine, but I also have a properly configured browser, high end PC, etc. A lot of people are probably not running high end PCs which can have trouble with software or hardware decoding of high definition h264 streams.
i'm on a high end pc with multiple properly configured broswers and tons of bandwidth, so i don't think it's that. i'll try the flash cache to 10mb suggestion above and see if that improves things
Yeah horrible lag here... some times audio is fine but mostly both have horrible lag. Tried pop out mode and disabling chat. Guess I'll never pay for TSL+ again.
People watch the stream on lower resolutions because they have a weak internet connection which can not play higher resolutions smoothly, right? Right. So a 360p SC2 stream usually takes ~100kbyte/s bandwidth which works on a weak connection (DSL 1000 -> 120kbyte/s download max). The bad thing now is that these TSL 4 "intro videos" tend to need way more bandwidth than ingame scenes and everything else which causes lags and thus is very annoying and should not happen on a 360p stream which is prolly designed for weaker connections.
just watched the stream @240p.. everything above was unwatchable as usual (dont know what it is about esp. this one) normally i can watch quad steam 720p+ with no problems..
1080p Twitch streams have been lagging from Europe for a few months now. It's not unwatchable, but the vidoe hangs roughly every 20 seconds for 2-3 seconds (audio still plays fine). This gets really annoying after a while, especially when you paid for it. Twitch really should fix this in the near future.
i watched in 720p and in every fight or high apm scene the video stoped, btw not the audio and after all was finished the video comes back!, so sometimes i wasn't able to watch who was the winner. very sad
I am lagging like nothing i ever saw before on all resolutions, could watch 1080p NASL/MLG without any problems but TSL just does not work for me at all
Try a speed test to Los Angeles at www.speakeasy.net/speedtest - if you don't come close to your rated Internet speed, or it starts off very slow and takes a long time to get up to speed, you probably need to tweak your TCP settings for handling higher bandwidth high latency links better. These apply to Windows 7, if you're on XP you really should upgrade since the XP TCP/IP stack is deficient in a number of areas.
Run a command prompt as admin and enter the following:
netsh interface tcp set global congestionprovider=ctcp
The 1080p+ stream runs at a fairly constant 3mbps give or take a few hundred kbps. The other options are all transcoded at an unbounded constant rate factor by Twitch. This means during low action such as looking at bases and during the pre / post game scenes, the bitrate will be very low as the scene isn't very complex. During high motion such as the intro and during battles, the bitrate will increase (sometimes very dramatically), and if your connection can't adapt to this sudden spike of data, your stream will lag.
I also think that Flash player has some problems in decoding higher bitrate H264 streams. I don't know if this is something twitch can resolve within the stream player or if it's an issue with flash player itself. Some people have reported that allowing unlimited storage can help (right click the video, settings, folder icon, unlimited) or that disabling hardware acceleration (right click the video, settings, untick hardware acceleration). You may also want to try disabling any 3rd party security / firewall software that could be interfering with the connection.
I can barely watch on 480p during TSL4 so i tried to adjust my tcp settings with the command line R1CH posted but it screwed everything up... Twitch.tv (and suprisingly own3d.tv) is not working AT ALL. I get black screens all the time, cant watch here or directly at twitch. I havent found a way to undo the changes from the command; Windows restore-point is not helping and I hope you guys know a way to fix it without FORMAT C:\
*after 5th time of clearing cookies and reinstalling the flashplayer everything is back to normal... D:
On July 31 2012 09:43 R1CH wrote: Try a speed test to Los Angeles at www.speakeasy.net/speedtest - if you don't come close to your rated Internet speed, or it starts off very slow and takes a long time to get up to speed, you probably need to tweak your TCP settings for handling higher bandwidth high latency links better. These apply to Windows 7, if you're on XP you really should upgrade since the XP TCP/IP stack is deficient in a number of areas.
Run a command prompt as admin and enter the following:
netsh interface tcp set global congestionprovider=ctcp
The 1080p+ stream runs at a fairly constant 3mbps give or take a few hundred kbps. The other options are all transcoded at an unbounded constant rate factor by Twitch. This means during low action such as looking at bases and during the pre / post game scenes, the bitrate will be very low as the scene isn't very complex. During high motion such as the intro and during battles, the bitrate will increase (sometimes very dramatically), and if your connection can't adapt to this sudden spike of data, your stream will lag.
I also think that Flash player has some problems in decoding higher bitrate H264 streams. I don't know if this is something twitch can resolve within the stream player or if it's an issue with flash player itself. Some people have reported that allowing unlimited storage can help (right click the video, settings, folder icon, unlimited) or that disabling hardware acceleration (right click the video, settings, untick hardware acceleration). You may also want to try disabling any 3rd party security / firewall software that could be interfering with the connection.
Try'd everything you suggested, i am absolutely sure it's on twitch's end, the ROG stream is stuttering just as the TSL stream did right now.
i have a pretty up to date pc and my internet is great, but im have the same problem. At 720p it lags really bad, and its not really lag it more of an 2-5 sec freeze. When i turn it down to 480p it happend less, but i really want to watch it at high quality. Im a big fan of TL and i think this is one of the better tournament out there so i hope they can fix it. <3 TL
On July 31 2012 09:43 R1CH wrote: Try a speed test to Los Angeles at www.speakeasy.net/speedtest - if you don't come close to your rated Internet speed, or it starts off very slow and takes a long time to get up to speed, you probably need to tweak your TCP settings for handling higher bandwidth high latency links better. These apply to Windows 7, if you're on XP you really should upgrade since the XP TCP/IP stack is deficient in a number of areas.
Run a command prompt as admin and enter the following:
netsh interface tcp set global congestionprovider=ctcp
The 1080p+ stream runs at a fairly constant 3mbps give or take a few hundred kbps. The other options are all transcoded at an unbounded constant rate factor by Twitch. This means during low action such as looking at bases and during the pre / post game scenes, the bitrate will be very low as the scene isn't very complex. During high motion such as the intro and during battles, the bitrate will increase (sometimes very dramatically), and if your connection can't adapt to this sudden spike of data, your stream will lag.
I also think that Flash player has some problems in decoding higher bitrate H264 streams. I don't know if this is something twitch can resolve within the stream player or if it's an issue with flash player itself. Some people have reported that allowing unlimited storage can help (right click the video, settings, folder icon, unlimited) or that disabling hardware acceleration (right click the video, settings, untick hardware acceleration). You may also want to try disabling any 3rd party security / firewall software that could be interfering with the connection.
Still getting lag. Nothing has changed since my OP.
Downloaded/installed delayed-ack
I'm getting "set global command failed on Ipv4 the requested operation requires elevation" when I type in your cmd.
Also, I am only getting 6mbps on a promised 50mbps connection. Not sure why. Maybe it is the TCP you speak of - but I just downloaded a movie last night at close to 3mbps.
I have been trying to watch TSL4 with several upsetting failures. I'm really frustrated and I know I am not the only one. The chat is full of lag lag lag. I'm venting more than anything, but I sure hope this gets fixed. I've watched all the other TSLs, with shittier connections, and a shittier computer, never any problems.
I do have a good computer with a 50mbps connection. I assume this is good enough to watch a stream.
Thank you for your time and effort - I know you are very busy.
Edit: I should add that all other streams I've watched are perfectly fine. I've never had an issue. Maybe once in a blue moon, and perhaps that was a twitch stream (never was aware).
just thought i would post because im one of those people with a good stable connection who has always had problems with streams at 'random'. i had been unable to watch the intro to tsl, the stream had lagged out every time the intro started up, you know screen freeze but music plays...
i followed all the instructions from rich and im happy to say the stream has been absolutly flawless since. not sure which change it is that made the difference but it fixed it for me.
The past few days/weeks has been really laggy for Twitch. I used to be able to watch things on 720/720+p without much of a problem, but these few days, everything's been laggy, even on 480p and sometimes on 360p. Players streams, OSL, ASUS ROG. Surprisingly TSL has been relatively smooth even though I had a lag spike.
Not sure if it's my connection though, but own3d seems to be quite smooth on HD and Speedtest seems fine, so I think it could be a Twitch problem.
I have a high-end computer. No problems with any other 1080+ stream, but the TL one freezes on 720 whenever a big fight occurs (or whenever the intro plays). It wasn't any better today. I'm fairly sure the encoding settings need to be tweaked stream-side.
Ufff, I got lag on 1080p and 1080+. Every 15-20 seconds the video hangs for a couple of seconds but the audio continues. Its fine in 720p but I paid for 1080p Also, the chat didn't work. Had the same video issue with Twitch.tv during WCS Nordic finals. Yes, I've got broadband and an up-to-date PC.
Not a big deal and it was only 10 bucks, but irritating & I don't think I'll buy it again because I watched it in 720p. Did the 10 bucks go to TL or Twitch.tv?
Still, great tournamet, great matches and looking forward to the rest on it on VOD. Loved the casting too! Thanks TL!
1. Who is your internet service provider? Alice / o2 DSL
2. Where are you located? Germany
3. What is your ip address, you can omit the last 3 digits? eg. 65.136.185.XXX instead of 65.136.185.80. 78.53.127.xxx
Lagging @ 1080+ @ fights, or fast sequences, audio is fine. Lagging @1080 every few seconds + fights or fast sequences badly, audio is fine 720+ watchable, but often lagging at the fights... so almost useless too, audio of course again fine.
connection speed to LA @ 7mbits..... dont think it is provider or pc problem.
Tracing route to a1694.w7.akamai.net [23.67.60.168] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 * * * Request timed out. 2 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms te-1-2-ur03.nchicago.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.86.118.57] 3 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms te-8-2-ur04.nchicago.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.231.86] 4 12 ms 15 ms 11 ms te-1-0-0-2-ar01.area4.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.86.187.217] 5 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms pos-3-5-0-0-cr01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.95.237] 6 12 ms 14 ms 11 ms be-10-pe03.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.84.86] 7 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms a23-67-60-168.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com [23.67.60.168]
On August 05 2012 21:55 stoge89 wrote: 1. Who is your internet service provider?
2. Where are you located?
3. What is your ip address, you can omit the last 3 digits? eg. 65.136.185.XXX instead of 65.136.185.80.
1. BKK with a 20/10 fibercable
2. Norway, Bergen
3. 192.168.0.xxx
Lagging when watching a random pylon, lagging i fights, just lagging in general
Thanks Stoge, everything here is useful except your your ip address, what you've given me is your internal IP address, which is provided by your router. You'll have to use something like http://ipchicken.com to get your external IP.
Tracing route to a1694.w7.akamai.net [23.67.60.168] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 * * * Request timed out. 2 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms te-1-2-ur03.nchicago.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.86.118.57] 3 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms te-8-2-ur04.nchicago.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.231.86] 4 12 ms 15 ms 11 ms te-1-0-0-2-ar01.area4.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.86.187.217] 5 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms pos-3-5-0-0-cr01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.95.237] 6 12 ms 14 ms 11 ms be-10-pe03.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.84.86] 7 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms a23-67-60-168.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com [23.67.60.168]
There is no way this is provider or pc.
A few things, to start, the traceroute you provided is unhelpful, Akamai is a CDN that twitch uses only for overflow on their stream, when you're actually watching a stream the client (the flash program) has various non-dns related (likely you got that end point out of load balancing at the dns level) ways to pick a CDN to get content from. Normally, for Comcast in chicago, you'll get something from twitch's internal CDN. You could try to find out what CDN you're using with netstat while watching a stream, but that would require a fair bit of knowledge. Another method would be to use wireshark as it can detect the RTMP protocol, this would require a lot less background knowledge to determine the CDN's address, but maybe some more knowledge to setup. In addition this traceroute is likely from a different hour than you were watching the stream. Your route to the server that the client is using will vary based on time of day and usage. Peering is quite strange in how it works, sometimes, one end will arrange for more bandwidth during what they think are peak hours, instead of on demand. This may lead their routes to be suboptimal during the hours you're trying to watch a stream. Finally, a traceroute only provides latency information, not throughput. It can give a good indication of what your throughput may be like, but it's no guaruntee. Akamai has infrastruction at most major ISPs to provide high throughput connections.
Glossary:
CDN = Content Delivery Network RTMP = Real Time Messaging Protocol, a protocol useful for sending encoded video and audio Peering = How various providers arrange routes across provider borders, can affect effective throughput greatly.
Getting heavy video & audio skipping/stalling throughout the day. I've checked other 720/1080 streams and they're fine so it's not my comp or internet. I've noticed others saying the same thing.
PS - Twitch chat for subscribers only is total garbage.
Edit: 1. Who is your internet service provider? Cox Communications
2. Where are you located? Southern California
3. What is your ip address, you can omit the last 3 digits? 68.231.192.xxx
On August 06 2012 06:22 MetalSlug wrote: I get heavy lags and skips during the twitch ad and the TSL opening but not during the actual game which is kinda strange i gues....
same for me, during games the stream runs perfect. but intros and the twitch ad lag, both audio and video.
Guess I could elaborate a bit. 720 and 480 is always lagging during big battles and the "vs." screen. 240 is "always" watchable for me, as it does not lag, but the PQ is of course horrendous.
TSL+ watcher here. I had been experiencing major lag and chop during the first broadcasts, and on twitch streams in general. Miraculously this weekend everything including 1080p+ is suddenly smooth as butter for TSL4 and other Twitch streams. No changes of anything on my end, did Twitch make some improvements? Midwest usa viewer.
On August 05 2012 18:38 drazak wrote: For those of you having lag, help me out, and maybe we can figure something out, please answer the following questions:
1. Who is your internet service provider?
2. Where are you located?
3. What is your ip address, you can omit the last 3 digits? eg. 65.136.185.XXX instead of 65.136.185.80.
I suspect the lag may be a result of bad peering between you and the nearest CDN point, I'd like to investigate this.
Let me know in the thread or in pm.
drazak
1. Unitymedia 2. Germany 3. 178.203.29.xxx
Lag on 720p during intros and when there is a lot going on (battles). Twitch.tv has always been the most troublesome streaming service for me. Would be cool if you could figure something out!
On August 06 2012 17:22 fatmanrocks wrote: TSL+ watcher here. I had been experiencing major lag and chop during the first broadcasts, and on twitch streams in general. Miraculously this weekend everything including 1080p+ is suddenly smooth as butter for TSL4 and other Twitch streams. No changes of anything on my end, did Twitch make some improvements? Midwest usa viewer.
I've had just the opposite experience, last weekend everything was fine for me and this weekend I experienced lag, almost to the point it was unwatchable.
On August 08 2012 09:56 drazak wrote: Could you also give my your IP with the last 3 numbers x'd out fides? I'm waiting to hear back from R1CH but all the data I can compile helps!
98.200.116.xxx thanks any help would be greatly appreciated not being able to watch streams anymore almost seems alien to me...
I normally will fall asleep every single night to some sortof stream it's kindof good sleep therapy tbh...it tires my eyes out (i have issues falling asleep so anything that helps is a lifesaver)
I don't think that would create much of an improvement, icydegosu, as this is a premium stream I believe twitch is using it's premium content delivery services, which is well spread and peered around the world.
On August 08 2012 09:56 drazak wrote: Could you also give my your IP with the last 3 numbers x'd out fides? I'm waiting to hear back from R1CH but all the data I can compile helps!
idk if you messaged him with my ip info...but literally...the day after i posted that info the twitch storm suddenly stopped! After WEEKS of constant being trolled by lag it has come to an end.
1. Who is your internet service provider? Kabel Deutschland 2. Where are you located? Nuremberg, Germany 3. What is your ip address, you can omit the last 3 digits? eg. 65.136.185.XXX instead of 65.136.185.80. 188.194.182.xxx (non static though)
Lagging @ 1080+ @ fights, or fast sequences, audio is fine. Lagging @1080 every few seconds + fights or fast sequences badly, audio is fine 720 was fine last week today I get spikes there in fights
Tracing route to a1694.w7.akamai.net [80.239.216.42] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms fritz.box [192.168.178.1] 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 10 ms 13 ms 7 ms 88-134-220-30-dynip.superkabel.de [88.134.220.30] 4 172 ms 22 ms 14 ms 88-134-193-155-dynip.superkabel.de [88.134.193.155] 5 88 ms 22 ms 227 ms 88-134-196-54-dynip.superkabel.de [88.134.196.54] 6 20 ms 28 ms 25 ms 83-169-129-222.static.superkabel.de [83.169.129.222] 7 137 ms 107 ms 23 ms 88-134-201-117-dynip.superkabel.de [88.134.201.117] 8 17 ms 21 ms 16 ms bei-b2-link.telia.net [213.248.88.237] 9 25 ms 25 ms 24 ms ffm-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.254.228] 10 24 ms 24 ms 27 ms ffm-b12-link.telia.net [213.155.132.211] 11 26 ms 26 ms 25 ms 80-239-216-42.customer.teliacarrier.com [80.239.216.42]
Trace complete.
/edit: ok, right now (game 3 of Hack vs HasuObs) the stream is dying completely. Audio is fucked up and laggs increase
1. Who is your internet service provider? NetAachen 2. Where are you located? Aachen, Germany 3. What is your ip address, you can omit the last 3 digits? eg. 65.136.185.XXX instead of 65.136.185.80. 89.0.9.xxx nonstatic
Intro lagging everytime, big fights stuttering, overall often "squeezing" of the sound. No problem with NASL FullHD though.
Routenverfolgung zu twitch.tv [199.9.250.76] über maximal 30 Abschnitte:
1 * <1 ms * fritz.box [192.168.178.1] 2 18 ms * 23 ms e320-zva1.netcologne.de [195.14.226.50] 3 17 ms * 17 ms TBA1.netcologne.de [78.35.33.237] 4 17 ms * 17 ms core-sto2-vl427.netcologne.de [78.35.33.221] 5 23 ms * 22 ms rtamsix-te33.netcologne.de [87.79.16.235] 6 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 7 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 8 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 9 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 10 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 11 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 12 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 13 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 14 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 15 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 16 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 17 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 18 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 19 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 20 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 21 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 22 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 23 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 24 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 25 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 26 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 27 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 28 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 29 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 30 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
Ablaufverfolgung beendet.
once more: (Notice: i tracerted twitch.tv but it forwarded to this below)
Routenverfolgung zu a1694.w7.akamai.net [95.100.249.42] über maximal 30 Abschni te:
1 <1 ms * <1 ms fritz.box [192.168.178.1] 2 18 ms * 20 ms e320-zva1.netcologne.de [195.14.226.50] 3 18 ms * * TBA2.netcologne.de [78.35.33.241] 4 19 ms * 17 ms core-sto2-vl429.netcologne.de [78.35.33.229] 5 * 19 ms * core-pg2-vl503.netcologne.de [195.14.195.113] 6 18 ms * 19 ms rtint3-po5.netcologne.de [87.79.16.254] 7 19 ms * 25 ms akamai.dus.ecix.net [194.146.118.84] 8 20 ms * 28 ms 95.100.249.42
I experienced pretty horrible lag today on 1080p+, 1080p, and 720p. Draz I PM'd you with the details. The NASL stream I caught tonight was much better (Though still a little laggy).
On August 13 2012 13:15 R1CH wrote: Pretty sure you need to be tracing to live.justin.tv, not the website. Or ideally the specific CDN server you are connected to.
R1CH is one hundred percent correct here, however I would suggest that you not try to traceroute anything, as far as I'm aware, the player itself can determine which delivery server to use, in addition to the CDN doing load balancing. The only way to determine which delivery server you're connected to would be to examine your netstat -nm output or use wireshark, as this is somewhat of an advanced procedure I wouldn't suggest it for any of you.
In addition, since I have had so, so many replies, R1CH and I decided that the best way to handle it would be for people still having issues to fill out this form:
The form is completely confidential, only myself, R1CH, and twitch personnel who request access to the form will have access to the data contained within.
I filled out the form. I hope you guys can get this figured out. As a note, today during the Monday TSL4 broadcast, the 1080p+ stream still lagged, but the 1080p stream was MOSTLY good (Occasional lag, mostly during TSL4 Intro Song). I did not try the 720p stream today since 1080p was watchable.
I hope you guys can get this figured out. As a note, today during the Monday TSL4 broadcast, the 1080p+ stream still lagged, but the 1080p stream was MOSTLY good
i am kind of in agreement with dalekphalm, but for me it was just random lagg all over.. when watching an ovie and during intros etc.. but on regular 1080p (not +) it was watchable.. still a bit laggy, but overall fine..
Is there anything that could be done? drazak do you work for Twitch? There seems to be a conflict with Twitch TV's Business model (they need to buy cheap traffic i assume, which obviously isn't all that great) and our desire to receive a high quality stream. It's not like we can force them to switch to Akamai.
Is it true that Twitch uses another CDN for their premium services? (i highly doubt it)
$ curl -O http://client.akamai.com/dlmtest/rand.bin % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed 100 28.6M 100 28.6M 0 0 1516k 0 0:00:19 0:00:19 --:--:-- 1633k
Some Chrome users report that disabling the "Pepperflash" plugin can help. To do this, go to chrome://plugins/ in your address bar, and click Disable on the pepflashplayer.dll plugin.
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