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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On December 08 2009 19:45 KwarK wrote:
I hate bw so much. Went on sick tilt and started playing random lowranks on random matchups doing random builds.
I read this and I was like, "Random matchups? Did kwark off race..." checked the matchlist: NOPE. But by "matchups" I assume he means not reimu, smi.lols, other AoN members or deanotic.
Yeah ok you laddered today and lost a bunch. The world has returned to normalcy.
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Yay, more smacktalk! :D Keep it up people! Drama is awesome.
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u are so mean
but i like
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On December 08 2009 19:49 MaGic~PhiL wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2009 18:59 Glaucus wrote:
Because you use it to turn the game into a coinflip. Bull shit Its still all about macro, micro, execution, decision making ect.. Its just not like any rnd guy can do this and that strategy and it comes down to 50/50..I hate idras crying.. Almost every strategy he loses to is cheap.. Its his opinion but i think its part of the game and it makes the game so deverse and beautiful..
agree. especially with the bold one. i am not that much of a player myself but imo this game is not only about copying the most modern and played korean pattern and the one with the slightly better mechanics this time wins.. its also about scouting + reading the opponent, using his flaws and to gauge for worthy risks.
the strength of zerg is beeing the most versatile race. you can sacrifice eco for a more powerful and surprising timing attack and when someone like f91 reads you right and you dont scout him well enough then his so spoken "coinflip" would be more like 70 to 30 % risk in his favour because of his experience and gamesense where lesser "skilled" players would fail most of the time in this matter.
if you know you play vs someone where you maybe are mechanical stronger and he is trying to strategically outplay you then you always need to take this in consideration by for example not parking your marines somewhere in front of your base, not always going for the most eco powering build and keeping your scouting / comprehending skills up.
the game is still a strategical game and not only about who is following one fixed and sharped korean pattern with the slightly better mechanics. if you really think broodwar is a well balanced game then you should accept every part of it and not only your philosophy of it based on your own strengths and that of your race.
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On December 08 2009 20:32 groro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2009 19:49 MaGic~PhiL wrote:On December 08 2009 18:59 Glaucus wrote:
Because you use it to turn the game into a coinflip. Bull shit Its still all about macro, micro, execution, decision making ect.. Its just not like any rnd guy can do this and that strategy and it comes down to 50/50..I hate idras crying.. Almost every strategy he loses to is cheap.. Its his opinion but i think its part of the game and it makes the game so deverse and beautiful.. agree. especially with the bold one. i am not that much of a player myself but imo this game is not only about copying the most modern and played korean pattern and the one with the slightly better mechanics this time wins.. its also about scouting + reading the opponent, using his flaws and to gauge for worthy risks. the strength of zerg is beeing the most versatile race. you can sacrifice eco for a more powerful and surprising timing attack and when someone like f91 reads you right and you dont scout him well enough then his so spoken "coinflip" would be more like 70 to 30 % risk in his favour because of his experience and gamesense where lesser "skilled" players would fail most of the time in this matter. if you know you play vs someone where you maybe are mechanical stronger and he is trying to strategically outplay you then you always need to take this in consideration by for example not parking your marines somewhere in front of your base, not always going for the most eco powering build and keeping your scouting / comprehending skills up. the game is still a strategical game and not only about who is following one fixed and sharped korean pattern with the slightly better mechanics. if you really think broodwar is a well balanced game then you should accept every part of it and not only your philosophy of it based on your own strengths and that of your race.
Yeah guys, try to have a debate with Idra. Totally works. No problems here.
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theres no debate here. they can simply go through tlpd and watch every vod where protoss double nexuses, and keep track of the record. if protoss wins less than 70% ill admit octzerg is a more skilled player than me.
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Someone should make list of "thing you are not allowed to do against idra", so he stops spamming the thread with complaints about zerlings, ultralisks, carriers, nexuses, double nexuses etc..
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i have to add and admit that imo you can talk about 50:50 coinflip things when the other one is deciding this kind of strategy everytime without any game information, nor information about the other player and does rely in general only of this kind of builds to win. but not if he surprises you in the flow of the game or cause he knows who he is up against like in the f91 example.
and i just state my opinion. dont need to have a debate or to inevitably convince idra or someone else of something.
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On December 08 2009 21:32 mdb wrote:
Someone should make list of "thing you are not allowed to do against idra", so he stops spamming the thread with complaints about zerlings, ultralisks, carriers, nexuses, double nexuses etc..
1. pick protoss
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On December 08 2009 21:50 GrandInquisitor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2009 21:32 mdb wrote:
Someone should make list of "thing you are not allowed to do against idra", so he stops spamming the thread with complaints about zerlings, ultralisks, carriers, nexuses, double nexuses etc.. 1. pick protoss
Hahaha, a very good start. All this double-nexus talk has motivated me to look up some VODs or replays.
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u lose if u cant adapt
u lose if u cant read a player properly..
its your fault
its not cheap no matter how someone beats u
in this particular game he was just better..
I dont know how someone as clever as idra cant comprehend this
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Cool, now every korean wants to play Fighting Spirit and I won't be able to make it to top48 at all. Should have played more last week :\
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On December 08 2009 22:25 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
u lose if u cant adapt
u lose if u cant read a player properly..
its your fault
its not cheap no matter how someone beats u
in this particular game he was just better..
I dont know how someone as clever as idra cant comprehend this
Or perhaps... the #1 foreigner, the guy who is currently residing in a Korean pro gaming house and playing 10+ hours a day... knows more about Starcraft than you do?
Just sayin'.
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On December 08 2009 21:50 GrandInquisitor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2009 21:32 mdb wrote:
Someone should make list of "thing you are not allowed to do against idra", so he stops spamming the thread with complaints about zerlings, ultralisks, carriers, nexuses, double nexuses etc.. 1. pick protoss
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On December 08 2009 22:51 Sadistx wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2009 21:50 GrandInquisitor wrote:On December 08 2009 21:32 mdb wrote:
Someone should make list of "thing you are not allowed to do against idra", so he stops spamming the thread with complaints about zerlings, ultralisks, carriers, nexuses, double nexuses etc.. 1. pick protoss
hahaha, thats awesome.
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On December 08 2009 22:35 iG.ClouD wrote:
Cool, now every korean wants to play Fighting Spirit and I won't be able to make it to top48 at all. Should have played more last week :\
you could always.... play fighting spirit
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On December 08 2009 22:51 Sadistx wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2009 21:50 GrandInquisitor wrote:On December 08 2009 21:32 mdb wrote:
Someone should make list of "thing you are not allowed to do against idra", so he stops spamming the thread with complaints about zerlings, ultralisks, carriers, nexuses, double nexuses etc.. 1. pick protoss
LOL not another one of those...
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On December 08 2009 23:07 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2009 22:35 iG.ClouD wrote:
Cool, now every korean wants to play Fighting Spirit and I won't be able to make it to top48 at all. Should have played more last week :\ you could always.... play fighting spirit
I don't have time to watch vods and play, so I will have to learn the map losing on it. Of course I will, but that won't make me reach top48. Whatever, TSL ladder is still funny ^^
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A+ and top 50! Good work, IdrA.
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Idra has thrown down the gauntlet. Who's up to the challenge?
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