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SirGlinG
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden933 Posts
December 08 2009 15:39 GMT
#1861
On December 09 2009 00:37 Holgerius wrote:
I definitely think Ret could reach A+. He has a quite good winrate vs A- koreans.

His ZvZ seems to be A- aswell.
Not my chair. Not my problem. That's what I say
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
December 08 2009 15:41 GMT
#1862
Yay Idra A+... I betted right.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
December 08 2009 15:44 GMT
#1863
[image loading]
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TSL.IdrA vs
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eunbin0904 // 31:48 +130

can't wait for Idra's rep pack, if it's released this time
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
December 08 2009 15:47 GMT
#1864
Come on koll.....Times running out.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
December 08 2009 15:49 GMT
#1865
On December 09 2009 00:23 Pang0lin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2009 00:22 ffswowsucks wrote:
gogo White-Ra 3rd place now :D

Im sure ret and Ra will reach A+


If Idra reached Olympic (or say 13000), you'd probably say you're sure ret and ra would reach olympic.

A+, Horree Sheet!
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
December 08 2009 15:50 GMT
#1866
gz idra, olympic rank is waiting ;D

this is getting rather nervewracking watching the ladders this late. so many players A- and favorites still missing from the list! why arent you playing koll!?!? I'm also waiting for Shauni! please make top48
dr.shrinker
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway369 Posts
December 08 2009 15:59 GMT
#1867
That's pretty awesome. Still a lot of people I would like to see in the top 48 that's missig tho, hopefully they'll climb their way up the last two days.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
December 08 2009 16:01 GMT
#1868
*jaw drop*
idra shuts up all the haters/doubters with that performance.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
December 08 2009 16:04 GMT
#1869
also, DRONE NOOOO
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 16:07:28
December 08 2009 16:06 GMT
#1870
On December 09 2009 01:01 redtooth wrote:
*jaw drop*
idra shuts up all the haters/doubters with that performance.


Doubt it. Nobody said he was a bad player, we know he's the best we've got, we're just saying he acts like a whiny little kid.

A+ is awesome though.

Drone, (Z)(br)ReasoN, (Z)(ks)Kolll and (Z)(se)HayprO are still out, (T)(ru)Advokate is at #48...

(P)(kz)TemujiN and (P)(it)ClouD are laddering, but too slowly, imo.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
vanTuni
Profile Joined October 2009
389 Posts
December 08 2009 16:07 GMT
#1871
wrong direction kolll
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
December 08 2009 16:08 GMT
#1872
Nice Idra !

White-ra is back where he belong .. think some guys that had like 10000+ points are kicking themselfs now they are -9000 :D
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
December 08 2009 16:13 GMT
#1873
On December 08 2009 18:13 Glaucus wrote:
lol obviously he didn't say Idra is out of shape. Where the hell does that come from...
uhh it comes from... this thread?
On December 08 2009 14:21 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2009 14:07 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On December 08 2009 13:43 TryThis wrote:
holy, sens catch up to idra!

im sure he'll have to get A+ to do it cuz it looks like idra is gonna finish his session today with A+

depends on how many times i get double nexused

and one guy went 1 hatch lurker
whens the last time someone went 1 hatch lurker
On December 08 2009 15:23 MorroW[MB] wrote:
just cause u let ur opponent 12nex doesnt mean uve lost

ur just in bad shape

go vult fe armory fac aca ebay gas and ull end up with more econ and faster tech than if he didnt 13nex. so all and all he will win on it but you will also be further ahead than a normal tech tree xd its playable

these tosses who 12nex cut probes so ridiculously much so we see all these dragoons and buildings but what many ppl forget is that they have so few probes

glaucus ur dumb. at least read the thread before you start being stupid. your double standard and blind fanboyism for morrow is disgusting. read the thread. its not "mind games". its spite between the two due to eh fact some of the top players started bashing on morrow and he got defensive.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
ELESSAR
Profile Joined July 2009
Bulgaria173 Posts
December 08 2009 16:13 GMT
#1874
1 question. Since Idra is on a pro team in korea is he still considered foreigner. Would he still be considered as a foreigner if he starts playing proleague regularly. He plays 10h/day with coаch no foreigner can do that.
IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
December 08 2009 16:14 GMT
#1875
Ummm just give the money to Idra, and then the rest to Ret and White Ra.
Forever Vulture.. :(
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 16:16:16
December 08 2009 16:15 GMT
#1876
On December 08 2009 22:43 Chrispy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2009 22:25 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
u lose if u cant adapt
u lose if u cant read a player properly..

its your fault
its not cheap no matter how someone beats u
in this particular game he was just better..

I dont know how someone as clever as idra cant comprehend this


Or perhaps... the #1 foreigner, the guy who is currently residing in a Korean pro gaming house and playing 10+ hours a day... knows more about Starcraft than you do?

Just sayin'.


Ok first of all, I have nothing against Idra, good luck to him, especially in this TSL, but #1 foreigner is a bit too much here. There are tons of foreigners, and a lot of recent competitions and showmatches show that the #1 spot is not secure at all. There are many people who beat Idra, or at least have the potential to beat him in a BO3.

Why do you think #1 TSL ladder is so important? If he were in top 12 he would risk losing before getting in the top 4. Be it to cheeses (which to me is just as fair as any other game) or to players who think better than him (not necessarily execution, he might be one of the best at that, but players with more "talent"). So yeah, I hope he stays on top of everyone else, because if he doesn't I doubt we'll see him in the finals. Just my two cents.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 16:19:41
December 08 2009 16:18 GMT
#1877
On December 09 2009 01:13 ELESSAR wrote:
1 question. Since Idra is on a pro team in korea is he still considered foreigner. Would he still be considered as a foreigner if he starts playing proleague regularly. He plays 10h/day with coаch no foreigner can do that.


any foreigner can do that
and yes he would still be a foreigner. he doesn't get disqualified for trying hard.


so anyways why isn't this koll guy in the top 48 yet


and what happened eri, get back up there. wanted u to smash some new school foolz
Beside_kr
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada902 Posts
December 08 2009 16:20 GMT
#1878
On December 09 2009 01:06 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2009 01:01 redtooth wrote:
*jaw drop*
idra shuts up all the haters/doubters with that performance.


Doubt it. Nobody said he was a bad player, we know he's the best we've got, we're just saying he acts like a whiny little kid.

A+ is awesome though.

Drone, (Z)(br)ReasoN, (Z)(ks)Kolll and (Z)(se)HayprO are still out, (T)(ru)Advokate is at #48...

(P)(kz)TemujiN and (P)(it)ClouD are laddering, but too slowly, imo.


I don't think Temu has played since last TSL, he's not in shape enough to qualify
Cuffs, cuffs, you can't break those cuffs
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
December 08 2009 16:25 GMT
#1879
On December 09 2009 01:15 CubEdIn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2009 22:43 Chrispy wrote:
On December 08 2009 22:25 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
u lose if u cant adapt
u lose if u cant read a player properly..

its your fault
its not cheap no matter how someone beats u
in this particular game he was just better..

I dont know how someone as clever as idra cant comprehend this


Or perhaps... the #1 foreigner, the guy who is currently residing in a Korean pro gaming house and playing 10+ hours a day... knows more about Starcraft than you do?

Just sayin'.
Why do you think #1 TSL ladder is so important? If he were in top 12 he would risk losing before getting in the top 4. Be it to cheeses (which to me is just as fair as any other game) or to players who think better than him (not necessarily execution, he might be one of the best at that, but players with more "talent"). So yeah, I hope he stays on top of everyone else, because if he doesn't I doubt we'll see him in the finals. Just my two cents.
well yeah the chances of idra 'winning it all' aren't as high as some people believe. but thats just statistics at work. there's a higher chance of 'someone else' winning TSL2 but regardless i think Idra is the general consensus favorite.

like lets say (NUMBERS MADE TO SHOW EXAMPLE) that idra has a 49% chance of winning it all. that means it still isn't 'probable' that he'll win. no there's a 51% chance that one of the other 51 (48+seeded) will win. so if a bet was offered to you worded as "do think you think idra will win it all or not" then you should probably vote no. if it was worded "who do you think will win" you should probably vote idra.
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vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
December 08 2009 16:30 GMT
#1880
What are you people talking about? The chances of Idra winning is extremely high. He's won almost every foreigner tournament this year.

This guy has been in Korea for over a year practicing full time with the help of better practice partners and professional coaching.

He's making a sacrifice by going to Korea but I think at some point his advantage over foreigners worldwide should be considered imbalanced.
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