EPTTSL Player Eligibility and Nongminzerg - Page 9
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Thratur
Canada917 Posts
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lux[chavii]
Germany115 Posts
On November 12 2009 13:50 Get.malice wrote: just let him play and if he comes into money, he has to donate 70-90% of it to UNICEF or something else. with that he would do something very good for the foreign community. btw if i see idras behavior, i would say his puberty isnt finished yet and he (if he ever does) kinda grows up in korea, too lol I agree with these arguments just because of hilarity  | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9110 Posts
On November 12 2009 13:28 SonuvBob wrote: Then we'd just have a shitstorm over something else. =/ Agree or disagree ty TL for finally bringing us TSL 2. And thanks for making it have a ladder phase again so even noobs like me can try and participate. It will give me an opportunity to have yet another mass gaming period and I am really looking forward to it. | ||
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machinehead..
412 Posts
On November 12 2009 13:47 Newguy wrote: thats stupid and irrational. theres a ladder, qualifier, and then the 16 man tourney, and if you've ever bothered looking at idra and ret's records vs foreigners they aren't non-koreans with superpowers who walk around beating other foreigners 100% of the time. You're stupid and irrational if you think Idra, who has been a pro for 2 or more years, who plays against the top players in the world all day is going to not be in the finals if he is allowed to play. O boy, there might be some surprises on who qualifies, but I doubt the top 4 or 8 will be much of a surprise. If having grown up in a Korean environment is advantageous enough, it's odd how living in a pro house could seem less of an advantage if you are non Korean... Sooner or later, people are going to start becoming pro simply for the chance to train to play in events like TSL. People who are given the chance/good enough, obviously. | ||
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ketomai
United States2789 Posts
On November 12 2009 13:49 domane wrote: He's still becoming known to foreigners, he presumably lived in Korea for 14+ years, he was good enough to be offered something by KTF, he will be in Korea during tournament, and his iccup rank is A. If administrators were to let nongminzerg play, there would be even greater discontent and anger (****ing catastrophe) than what we've seen in this thread. Also, it might set a precedent for gosu Korean amateurs to enter in the future. Unless the gosu amateurs lived in Korea for 4+ years, then no, it would not set a precedent. And no, there would not be anger, because unlike the rules, most of us will not reject a major TL contributor like nongmin from a TL hosted event. | ||
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numLoCK
Canada1416 Posts
On November 12 2009 13:54 machinehead.. wrote: You're stupid and irrational if you think Idra, who has been a pro for 2 or more years, who plays against the top players in the world all day is going to not be in the finals if he is allowed to play. O boy, there might be some surprises on who qualifies, but I doubt the top 4 or 8 will be much of a surprise. If having grown up in a Korean environment is advantageous enough, it's odd how living in a pro house could seem less of an advantage if you are non Korean... Sooner or later, people are going to start becoming pro simply for the chance to train to play in events like TSL. People who are given the chance/good enough, obviously. It has been determined that most of the "advantage" stuff was bullshit. The reasoning is: Its a Foreigner tournament. Idra was born in the USA and is white. He is 100% foreigner, and a foreigner who achieves progamer status is just a damn good foreigner. Nong is Korean. He's gonna be living in Korea. He is not a foreigner in that sense, and as such is not allowed. | ||
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ketomai
United States2789 Posts
edit: Hot_Bid deleted his own post or I am crazy. | ||
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domane
Canada1606 Posts
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Twilight Templar
99 Posts
On November 12 2009 13:56 ketomai wrote: So going back to Korea once right as TSL begins for the first time in 4 years is now reentering him into the Korean community? That really is unfair. You're discounting the 4 years he was 'part of the foreign community' for just one visit. I know I"m repeating myself but you won't address the context. Why can you not bend such a small rule for nongmin when you bend huge rules for the others? I think Hot_Bid already said he gave them special treatment b/c idra and ret have been apart of the foriegn community much longer. Nongmin has only been with Tl.net for a few months. Which in the Admin's eyes is not long enough to justify bending these rules. | ||
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
On November 12 2009 13:56 ketomai wrote: edit: Hot_Bid deleted his own post or I am crazy. A lot of posts have been deleted. I swear, there was 9 pages in this thread at one time and when I refreshed, there was only 7 pages. | ||
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ketomai
United States2789 Posts
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Twilight Templar
99 Posts
On November 12 2009 14:00 T.O.P. wrote: A lot of posts have been deleted. I swear, there was 9 pages in this thread at one time and when I refreshed, there was only 7 pages. They nuked all of sorrow's posts. | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21550 Posts
On November 12 2009 13:49 domane wrote: If administrators were to let nongminzerg play, there would be even greater discontent and anger (****ing catastrophe) than what we've seen in this thread. Yeah, it's a shitty situation. On November 12 2009 13:52 domane wrote: EDIT: Even if nongminzerg was in the US during TSL2, I have deep doubts about whether he would be allowed to play. I'm thinking internet riots. We'd allow him, and we'd have to deal with another thread just like this one. | ||
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Cowazon
Canada58 Posts
On November 12 2009 13:56 numLoCK wrote: It has been determined that most of the "advantage" stuff was bullshit. The reasoning is: Its a Foreigner tournament. Idra was born in the USA and is white. He is 100% foreigner, and a foreigner who achieves progamer status is just a damn good foreigner. Nong is Korean. He's gonna be living in Korea. He is not a foreigner in that sense, and as such is not allowed. If you call a small break for a few months before returning to the US for your uni studies as "living" in South Korea, then what do you call being being there for over a year and having a full-time job? | ||
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FallingTeardrops
United States46 Posts
On November 12 2009 14:01 Twilight Templar wrote: They nuked all of sorrow's posts. fuck, he took up 2 pages by himself? mother fucker, just ip ban that faggot. | ||
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Twilight Templar
99 Posts
On November 12 2009 14:05 FallingTeardrops wrote: fuck, he took up 2 pages by himself? mother fucker, just ip ban that faggot. Well I assume they probobly got rid of some of the more "thoughtful" posts also. | ||
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jiabung
United States720 Posts
On November 12 2009 13:59 Twilight Templar wrote: I think Hot_Bid already said he gave them special treatment b/c idra and ret have been apart of the foriegn community much longer. Nongmin has only been with Tl.net for a few months. Which in the Admin's eyes is not long enough to justify bending these rules. I'd say that nongmin has contributed back to the foreign community more than idra has with his streaming though. What has idra done to give back to TL? I don't know him for anything other than his BM and SC skills. But i guess longevity has its merits too, as a gamer can't be expected to give back to community really, other than by playing good games. Anyway, i hope nongmin gets accepted by the foreign community and that his streaming games is not overlooked. | ||
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FallingTeardrops
United States46 Posts
On November 12 2009 14:07 Twilight Templar wrote: Well I assume they probobly got rid of some of the more "thoughtful" posts also. so it wasnt just sorrow's posts? =[ | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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lac29
United States1485 Posts
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