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CHEONSOYUN
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tofucake
Hyrule19264 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12134 Posts
On June 30 2021 03:05 tofucake wrote: If I thought you should be still banned I'd ban your new account too. Accept your small victory and stop bugging me. I believe you have Edit> not just, doesn't make sense considering how long this lovestory goes | ||
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SC-Shield
Bulgaria900 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18476 Posts
On June 30 2021 04:32 LegalLord wrote: Alas, without fail it always ends with the complainee getting banned for not being able to let it go. I am quite impressed with tofu's patience in this case. I would have hammered a few posts back if it had been me in his shoes. Guess that's a good reason not to make me a mod  | ||
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brian
United States9643 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
On June 30 2021 05:52 brian wrote: My first thought seeing all that harassment was that I’d ban him again on sight. 3 years isn’t long enough ago to just wave that shit away. Having an account at all is no small victory. I can’t imagine even wanting to be associated with that account after that, much less being allowed to keep your current. Even today Internet is a cruel place in general, this is hardly the worst behaviour yikes | ||
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brian
United States9643 Posts
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SC-Shield
Bulgaria900 Posts
Bro, I really respect you for hardware knowledge and for having helped me many times, even recently. However, I feel this is slightly taken out of context. First, let me share some experience from Facebook, Steam and even StarCraft. It's not super uncommon to see someone using the N word, attack against some other minority or a few line post with mostly insults. I definitely reported such issues on Facebook and Steam and I've only received a positive response just once out of multiple reports. This is what is sad and what I consider worse behaviour. Of course, TL is TL and not these social networks, but even in real life people are hardly "banned" (read: jailed or excluded from social circle) for years unless it's very serious crime. Although real life and forums are very different, I draw this comparison as it is still human to human relation. So that's why I think 3 years is long enough to be given a chance, I have zero interest to insult tofucake or anyone else in the same way as on screenshot. I'm not trying to say this is acceptable behaviour, I'm just saying it's not permanent worthy in my opinion. I think some people here judge this a little harshly. In that same sense, should you be banned from entering a neighbour/any country if you happen to insult some of their top officials? Besides, tomorrow you (not Cyro, you in general) you could be banned and be in my shoes. Then, you'll see things 180 degrees. Edit: Forgot to say, this is my last response about this issue in this thread. I don't think it's very productive to continue this for pages. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
The smilies he used are not the smilies in the link. On June 29 2021 05:32 SC-Shield wrote: Thanks. 👍It's probably nothing TL related but Unicode (encoding format) itself: https://unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-emoji-list.html Copy/paste if you're on desktop. Otherwise, most smartphones already have them on their keyboard. | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10579 Posts
Jealous was just temp banned for 90 days by BigFan. That account was created on 2011-12-17 01:41:28 and had 8864 posts. Reason: In order to decide on your sentence for this heinous crime, I decided to use the fairest method possible: Coin flips, Bo5. Head - perm Tail - 90 Went HTTT, 1-3. You got lucky... Go buy a lottery ticket... Here's a 90! Of course Bigfan would use this as his mod method. SC-Shield was just temp banned for 1 week by KwarK. That account was created on 2018-12-02 18:29:22 and had 460 posts. Reason: I was reading ABL and based on your posts there I just don’t like you. If that’s not a good enough reason for a ban then I’m sure an admin will undo this though. nono, please keep him banned longer. And reinstate Kwark's mod action. On June 30 2021 20:59 SC-Shield wrote: Bro, I really respect you for hardware knowledge and for having helped me many times, even recently. However, I feel this is slightly taken out of context. First, let me share some experience from Facebook, Steam and even StarCraft. It's not super uncommon to see someone using the N word, attack against some other minority or a few line post with mostly insults. I definitely reported such issues on Facebook and Steam and I've only received a positive response just once out of multiple reports. This is what is sad and what I consider worse behaviour. Of course, TL is TL and not these social networks, but even in real life people are hardly "banned" (read: jailed or excluded from social circle) for years unless it's very serious crime. Although real life and forums are very different, I draw this comparison as it is still human to human relation. So that's why I think 3 years is long enough to be given a chance, I have zero interest to insult tofucake or anyone else in the same way as on screenshot. I'm not trying to say this is acceptable behaviour, I'm just saying it's not permanent worthy in my opinion. I think some people here judge this a little harshly. In that same sense, should you be banned from entering a neighbour/any country if you happen to insult some of their top officials? Besides, tomorrow you (not Cyro, you in general) you could be banned and be in my shoes. Then, you'll see things 180 degrees. Edit: Forgot to say, this is my last response about this issue in this thread. I don't think it's very productive to continue this for pages. Shut up. No one cares about you or your weird manifestos about free speech. | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On June 29 2021 22:40 tofucake wrote: Freedom of Speech is an American law which limits what the American government can do to people and has no bearing on what a Dutch website can do. Also, we do not control who does and does not watch SC2. We can't just kick people out of liking the game. If you weren't bothered you wouldn't be trying to get your account back. And the issue is 100% you. Actually, not really. You might be interested in Peckingham v North Carolina wikipedia. “In June 2017, the U.S. Supreme Court unanimously reversed the North Carolina Supreme Court's judgment. In a majority opinion authored by Justice Anthony Kennedy, the Court held that social media—defined broadly enough to include Facebook, Amazon.com, The Washington Post, and WebMD—is considered a "protected space" under the First Amendment for lawful speech.[1] “ Now you can ofc. argue that us jurisdiction will never be able to look at a *dutch* website, but we are very likely looking at a precedent judgement. In germany for instance, you can get jailed already for extreme racist hatespeech “volksverhetzung“ regardless where you do it deep in the interwebs. Now ofc you can argue, that the government here is enforcing law on individuals and is not looking into the relationship between a platform and their users. Thats a fair point. But eventually, especially for big social media platforms, governments will extend that to grating their citizens freedom of speech in their given constitutional form. Thats logical since big social media is more and more evolving into the prime platform of civil interaction. | ||
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farvacola
United States18869 Posts
On July 03 2021 07:12 Cele wrote: Actually, not really. You might be interested in Peckingham v North Carolina wikipedia. “In June 2017, the U.S. Supreme Court unanimously reversed the North Carolina Supreme Court's judgment. In a majority opinion authored by Justice Anthony Kennedy, the Court held that social media—defined broadly enough to include Facebook, Amazon.com, The Washington Post, and WebMD—is considered a "protected space" under the First Amendment for lawful speech.[1] “ Actually, yes really, that case was about a state law, not a private actor’s rules. | ||
micronesia
United States24805 Posts
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farvacola
United States18869 Posts
On July 03 2021 07:18 micronesia wrote: farvacola but if I disallow you from saying anything on this forum that makes the department of energy look bad, is that me infringing on your first amendment right? Does it depend on which hat I'm wearing!? Yep, it would depend on whether you’re acting on behalf of the government or on behalf of a private entity/yourself. Only the former would implicate 1st Amendment protections, the caveat being the unresolved issue regarding whether particular digital public spaces are integral to the working of society enough to qualify them as protected. Somewhere like Facebook or Twitter may fit that bill, but TL almost certainly does not. | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
E: On July 03 2021 07:25 farvacola wrote: the caveat being the unresolved issue regarding whether particular digital public spaces are integral to the working of society enough to qualify them as protected. Somewhere like Facebook or Twitter may fit that bill, but TL almost certainly does not. I agree on that, at first it seems like a very theoretical discussion. Then if there were to be a precedent jurisdiction that a certain platform qualifies for that, i'd expect a general law (at least in germany, because i don't understand enough about us law) to follow that would regulate public platforms in general and in much more detail. | ||
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farvacola
United States18869 Posts
On July 03 2021 07:29 Cele wrote: I updated some more/accidentely posted before i was done. Please kindly answer to my full post. Your updates make the post much more on point, and I don’t really have an answer other than to say private actors remain largely unrestricted by the 1st Amendment. | ||
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