EPTSeoul Barcraft again~ - Page 2
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Emporio
United States3069 Posts
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
i guess they think 'people should all pay for their own subscriptions' except its backwards logic because a. its not like theres a barcraft for every single day of games, ppl will still have to buy to watch...and b. it can potentially get them even more subscriptions because of newcomers to the bar or w/e deciding to subscribe... wtf | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On January 25 2012 18:34 bokchoi wrote: I dont get it... the korean stream is free... are they really concerned with losing the english listening audience?? As I already said it's probably not about the audience itself but about the numbers. If you want sponsors you can't say "Yea we think 50.000 people watched the show", you have to say:"Numbers say 50.00 people watched the show", and BarCrafts shrink these numbers. But yea there should be a better way to deal with this, a registration for example seems good.. You register your bar and say how many people could possible be watching and GomTV could say "We have 50.000 unique viewers and 10 BarCrafts which will count as 1000 viewers extra" or something like that. | ||
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obsKura
Ireland1061 Posts
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Attunga
Australia41 Posts
I really can't see how they would loose out, it is not like people pay only for the finals and not the rest of the season. Anything they loose out on ticket wise if that did happen they are going to catch up on by the amount of people that bring along friends and get them interested in the game. | ||
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garbodor
269 Posts
cost to license UFC in a sports bar is like 500-1500 depending on the fight :c | ||
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
I live in Boston, and there are tons of free local newpapers. They make money from ads, so they need to be able to estimate reasonably their readership, which isn't nearly as easy as "papers put in box - papers left in box" Likewise, the super bowl here in America is going to be shown in every bar in the damn country. I assure you the NFL reports all that to their sponsors. So it's not like it's some unprecedented challenge. | ||
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Crucius
Australia299 Posts
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ShloobeR
Korea (South)3820 Posts
Please keep me posted about times dates : ) I'd love to come! | ||
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
On January 25 2012 18:54 Crucius wrote: Here's the thing though, I've been apart of the organisation that plans the Barcrafts for Sydney, Australia. GOM has been nothing but proactive and helpful in assisting us with scheduling and promotion... I don't see why they'd do a complete 180 on this and ban them... It's shocking, but "yaletown" is legit. He's consistently the guy that hosts BarCraft Seoul and I do not doubt him if he post something as serious as that. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Everyone needs to stop acting like this is a universal barcraft ban. It's not great for Seoul TL'ers but it doesn't affect anyone else. | ||
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
On January 25 2012 18:59 Scarecrow wrote: Seeing as this email was only directed at the Seoul venue it's probably about increasing the studio/finals audiences. Anything else doesn't make much sense. tru | ||
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
On January 25 2012 18:59 Scarecrow wrote: Seeing as this email was only directed at the Seoul venue it's probably about increasing the studio/finals audiences. Anything else doesn't make much sense. Everyone needs to stop acting like this is a universal barcraft ban. It's not great for Seoul TL'ers but it doesn't affect anyone else. GOM or any other tournament do not have jurisdiction over BarCraft. BarCraft is a community movement and should not cave in to bullying. I can't see other organizers ignoring this. I won't. | ||
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schimmetje
Netherlands1104 Posts
Perhaps it would be wiser for GOM to not be too strict about this, goodwill and all. Still you can't restream either and this isn't the LQ stream from the 1 year pass mention. Plus there's the studio/numbers thing, as mentioned above. Sucks but are there *really* people surprised this could happen? | ||
itsjustatank
Hong Kong9169 Posts
On January 25 2012 19:26 schimmetje wrote: Oh good, we found something to pitchfork about again. Perhaps it would be wiser for GOM to not be too strict about this, goodwill and all. Still you can't restream either and this isn't the LQ stream from the 1 year pass mention. Plus there's the studio/numbers thing, as mentioned above. Sucks but are there *really* people surprised this could happen? Yeah considering they were lamenting the small number of SC2 supporters they have been enjoying in Korea, this is pretty surprising. On January 23 2012 17:00 jellyjello wrote: Coach Won> ... Also, if KeSPA, Blizzard, or GOMTV wants an information about SC2 to be public, I think they must talk to the teams first before doing so. It's the same with the fans. They are all esports fans. There is no need to distinguish between BW fans and SC2 fans. We shouldn't be fighting for the already small market. We should all try to find a common ground and have discussions and gather opinions from fans, and SC2 association is a necessity tool for this to happen. Straight up telling them to stop instead of trying to work out a deal or something destroys an avenue that they once had to garner support from the local community. Not very smart. | ||
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DarKcS
Australia1237 Posts
 Except kittens. | ||
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