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P3psi
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (South)85 Posts
January 31 2012 13:07 GMT
#141
On January 31 2012 16:44 Eishi_Ki wrote:
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On January 28 2012 06:32 Primadog wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On January 28 2012 01:53 P3psi wrote:
As a regular at Yaletown, BarCraft or not. Lower your damn pitchforks and torches if you have no idea what the hell your talking about/never been to the venue/have no knowledge of how this works.

Most of you guys who are hating or adding nothing but "i hate gom" or "WTF THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO DO THIS," don't even live in Korea. Remember, most of you guys. This aint no OCCUPY or 99% crap. This is business, and without business, eSports is dead. GomTV probably had a reason for this, like it or not.

All you do by making GomTV the bad guy is hurting the game and eSports as a whole. After very little information given to us by "yaletown" you all decide to raise your pitchforks (aka tapping your keys on your keyboard in RAGE!!!!) Please, keep your emotions in check, just because you have anonymity doesn't mean this type of pitchforking is acceptable.

Cancel your subs, send your emails, protest! If you really want GomTV to be the bad guy, lets get rid of them as a whole and run the studio ourselves! Dont kid me.

Some of you have valid points, for and against this issue. I really do appreciate that some of you guys can keep a cool head. However, the others, some who may not even be old enough to go to a "BAR"craft, shut up. You are doing nothing but adding hate and animosity to a business, which believe it or not, makes people stay up at night to watch pixels against pixels.

So please, lower them. I said please. Thank you for reading this rant.
Will be following up with a concise version for people who dont like to read long posts.
GLHFR~


I have been attempting to contact GOMtv to get their side of the story since the news broke - PM and E-mail, as well as organizing people to tweet GOM amass and posting on GOMtv forum.

They have not responded thus far.

You're correct in reminding us that GOMtv is a business. Because it's a business, it has responsibility in keeping its customers happy. If a business adopt policies that make its customers unhappy, its bottom line would suffer. As GOMtv's customers, we are doing it a favor by proactively engaging and letting it know when a policy frustrates and annoys us.

If GOM chooses a policy to protect (questionably) its bottomline but damages the community that it feeds off from. A policy that can hurt the long term prospect of this community, then it must receive a proportional response until GOM is sufficiently swayed to reverse the policy. GOM is not all of StarCraft 2. We don't owe it to GOM if GOM chooses to hurt us.


You should check your Business Basics textbook champ, businesses have a responsibility to their shareholders, not their customers.


Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 16:14 Primadog wrote:
On January 28 2012 06:32 Primadog wrote:
On January 28 2012 01:53 P3psi wrote:
As a regular at Yaletown, BarCraft or not. Lower your damn pitchforks and torches if you have no idea what the hell your talking about/never been to the venue/have no knowledge of how this works.

Most of you guys who are hating or adding nothing but "i hate gom" or "WTF THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO DO THIS," don't even live in Korea. Remember, most of you guys. This aint no OCCUPY or 99% crap. This is business, and without business, eSports is dead. GomTV probably had a reason for this, like it or not.

All you do by making GomTV the bad guy is hurting the game and eSports as a whole. After very little information given to us by "yaletown" you all decide to raise your pitchforks (aka tapping your keys on your keyboard in RAGE!!!!) Please, keep your emotions in check, just because you have anonymity doesn't mean this type of pitchforking is acceptable.

Cancel your subs, send your emails, protest! If you really want GomTV to be the bad guy, lets get rid of them as a whole and run the studio ourselves! Dont kid me.

Some of you have valid points, for and against this issue. I really do appreciate that some of you guys can keep a cool head. However, the others, some who may not even be old enough to go to a "BAR"craft, shut up. You are doing nothing but adding hate and animosity to a business, which believe it or not, makes people stay up at night to watch pixels against pixels.

So please, lower them. I said please. Thank you for reading this rant.
Will be following up with a concise version for people who dont like to read long posts.
GLHFR~


I have been attempting to contact GOMtv to get their side of the story since the news broke - PM and E-mail, as well as organizing people to tweet GOM amass and posting on GOMtv forum.

They have not responded thus far.

You're correct in reminding us that GOMtv is a business. Because it's a business, it has responsibility in keeping its customers happy. If a business adopt policies that make its customers unhappy, its bottom line would suffer. As GOMtv's customers, we are doing it a favor by proactively engaging and letting it know when a policy frustrates and annoys us.

If GOM chooses a policy to protect (questionably) its bottomline but damages the community that it feeds off from. A policy that can hurt the long term prospect of this community, then it must receive a proportional response until GOM is sufficiently swayed to reverse the policy. GOM is not all of StarCraft 2. We don't owe it to GOM if GOM chooses to hurt us.


GOMtv has responded to my inquiries on January 29th through E-mail:

[image loading]


Was this not obviously the reason for it happening? It was called on page two of this very thread...

Anyway, now that's cleared up, care to end this crusade?



Amen scottsman

And Rad, you dont get the message of my post. Gom has responded. And so far, I dont think I was wrong at all. Just think that people need to know that they wont always get what they want and dont need to throw a fit about it. Irony, I made a fit about people making a fit.

Fitception....
Who said that zerglings cant break down rocks?
P3psi
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (South)85 Posts
January 31 2012 13:09 GMT
#142
Also this was another alcohol induced post~
Who said that zerglings cant break down rocks?
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