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So shockingly shortsighted...
Barcrafts help the SC2 community and the market grow. For me, money spent in barcrafts is money inserted into the SC2 market which I want to see getting bigger.
See the competition between MLG and IPL last year for example. Although it was very strong, both at least acknowledged that each other's existence helps e-sports grow and this is a good thing.
If I am counting correctly, this is strike 3 for GOM as far as I am concerned. It almost looks like they are trying to make their last buck. Fighting to make e-sports smaller will not do the trick for me.
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I'm pretty sure that it's ratings issue. Believe it or not, SC2 is rated as 18+ in Korea, and Gom must use 12+ version (Reduced Violence) to broadcast GSL in Korea. You are lucky that you can watch gomtv.net stuff in Korea at all. Please stop making a fuse about it, because once the word gets out, Gov will force Gom to block Korean IPs altogether. (Or, they could order Korean ISPs to block gomtv.net)
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They better fucking be serving beer at the studio.
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On January 25 2012 20:12 NHY wrote:
I'm pretty sure that it's ratings issue. Believe it or not, SC2 is rated as 18+ in Korea, and Gom must use 12+ version (Reduced Violence) to broadcast GSL in Korea. You are lucky that you can watch gomtv.net stuff in Korea at all. Please stop making a fuse about it, because once the word gets out, Gov will force Gom to block Korean IPs altogether. (Or, they could order Korean ISPs to block gomtv.net)
No that doesn't make sense. GOM has no incentive to prevent viewers simply due to ratings. That's the government's job. Unless there's some SOPA-like law for ratings.
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Why does this GOM vs Barcraft reminds me of Blizzard vs Kespa? I dont know 
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On January 25 2012 19:03 Primadog wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 18:59 Scarecrow wrote:
Seeing as this email was only directed at the Seoul venue it's probably about increasing the studio/finals audiences. Anything else doesn't make much sense.
Everyone needs to stop acting like this is a universal barcraft ban. It's not great for Seoul TL'ers but it doesn't affect anyone else. GOM or any other tournament do not have jurisdiction over BarCraft. BarCraft is a community movement and should not cave in to bullying. I can't see other organizers ignoring this. I won't.
Doesn't blizzard have the rights to barcraft?
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How can you not see the potential of new people getting into Starcraft and buying a ticket for themself at home? Plus making Starcraft bigger and better in general.
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On January 25 2012 20:42 Corrosive wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 19:03 Primadog wrote:On January 25 2012 18:59 Scarecrow wrote:
Seeing as this email was only directed at the Seoul venue it's probably about increasing the studio/finals audiences. Anything else doesn't make much sense.
Everyone needs to stop acting like this is a universal barcraft ban. It's not great for Seoul TL'ers but it doesn't affect anyone else. GOM or any other tournament do not have jurisdiction over BarCraft. BarCraft is a community movement and should not cave in to bullying. I can't see other organizers ignoring this. I won't. Doesn't blizzard have the rights to barcraft?
No. We won that one too.
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On January 25 2012 20:24 lbmaian wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 20:12 NHY wrote:
I'm pretty sure that it's ratings issue. Believe it or not, SC2 is rated as 18+ in Korea, and Gom must use 12+ version (Reduced Violence) to broadcast GSL in Korea. You are lucky that you can watch gomtv.net stuff in Korea at all. Please stop making a fuse about it, because once the word gets out, Gov will force Gom to block Korean IPs altogether. (Or, they could order Korean ISPs to block gomtv.net) No that doesn't make sense. GOM has no incentive to prevent viewers simply due to ratings. That's the government's job. Unless there's some SOPA-like law for ratings.
In Korea, ratings are done by Government and compulsory. Gom is technically breaking a law by allowing gomtv.net to be accessible from Korean IPs without taking necessary steps. Now that they've realized someone is watching gomtv.net material in Korea, they may be forced to act.
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This seems stupid. I guess I can understand that they don't want to loose ad-income by having lots of people watching through one account. But on the other hand, mainsteam exposure is the way to get new viewers. Since there are never going to be barcrafts covering all events and matches I don't see this eating into GOM's overall income.
GOM: Stop having such a short time horizon in your decisions and start to work for E-sports!!
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I think instead of getting rowdy and jumping the gun the Seoul guys should just follow up on the email or better yet go down to the studio and ask Mr. Chae in person. I'm sure he'd be more than willing to sit down to discuss why and if there's anything you guys can do about it.
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On January 25 2012 20:45 Primadog wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 20:42 Corrosive wrote:On January 25 2012 19:03 Primadog wrote:On January 25 2012 18:59 Scarecrow wrote:
Seeing as this email was only directed at the Seoul venue it's probably about increasing the studio/finals audiences. Anything else doesn't make much sense.
Everyone needs to stop acting like this is a universal barcraft ban. It's not great for Seoul TL'ers but it doesn't affect anyone else. GOM or any other tournament do not have jurisdiction over BarCraft. BarCraft is a community movement and should not cave in to bullying. I can't see other organizers ignoring this. I won't. Doesn't blizzard have the rights to barcraft? No. We won that one too.
won? what did you win exactly? they just asked for the info and then they never did anything, yet everyone assumed they were killing barcraft...
And if Blizzard didnt want any Barcraft, there wouldn be any barcraft, maybe some small one, but the maps with barcrafts all over the world would cease to exist quite quickly. And of course Gom can stop a barcraft as well,is their broadcast, and they can charge more money for groups (exactly the same as baseball soccer or w/e you watch in your country), or just outright forbid it.
As for the email, guess it has to do with something regarding the finals, but I would really really like a response from Gom, come on Mr Chae i have faith in you :D
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Discussions like these can never be good until a actual representative speaks from the other side. Gom has foreigners like Torch, and people with good English like John, and kind of Mr. Chae... You guys should wait to bash them until someone from their side speaks, because for right now, it's really speculation as to why they did it.
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Why dont GOM starts to sell passes for BarCraft organizers (it would be more expensive and have a higher quality with support). That is what the UFC has made and see where they are right now.
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What the ... this does not make sense at all.
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It makes lot of sense, seeing as they are only enforcing this in Korea - one of the important reasons has already been stated, Barcraft has the potential to reduce people showing up at the GOM studio, thus "lowering the athmosphere" (not quite sure how to express myself, but I hope you guys know what I mean).
It's not like they're "banning" Barcraft everywhere, just this one in Seoul, which makes sense (IMO).
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Well I'm still up for going there for "Barcraft" and getting a burger and stuff. Also I have yet to be able to sign up for a KR LoL account, maybe you guys can give me a hand there.
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On January 25 2012 18:44 DwD wrote:
Why even care about that email? Just ignore it then can't stop you from gathering with friends and watching something you payed for. LOL Ridiculous by GOM, Mr Chae what the fuck man? As long as they are adults they can do whatever they want. Drinking is not illegal, not even in strict Korea.
I should go around murdering people, as long as no one sees me do it it's fine.
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