EPTWell, that didnt last long. GG
The Rekrul Korea Story - Page 8
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useLess
United States4781 Posts
Well, that didnt last long. GG | ||
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Bard
Jamaica898 Posts
post some pictures if you have, i am sure others also want to see you / your teammates / other korean progamers / korean scneary & your girlfriend ^_^ have great time in korea | ||
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Jim
Sweden1965 Posts
ps. I can for example never be as good as the best fps-players no matter how many hours I put in. I can be nearly as good(within 5%) but I can never be as good. :/ | ||
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TheGoliath
United States682 Posts
nice try, but just a question, do you think you can release ANY games of the improved rekrul? | ||
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sundance
Slovakia3201 Posts
 ) reading.GL Rekrul. | ||
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Hot77.iEy
Finland1486 Posts
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MoltkeWarding
5195 Posts
On January 09 2005 12:12 Manifesto7 wrote: Don't listen to him, he is wrong. If you have a BA in anything, you can teach in Korea and make decent money. The amount of money you want to make depends on where you want to live. You can be in the middle of seoul and enjoy the big city, but it is horribly expensive to live in. If you choose a smaller city or the country-side, than you will be able to save more money as it is cheaper to live in. Yes there are many foreigners in Korea teaching english, and there are also many jobs. My best friend has just gone back for his third contract there, and if you are seriously interested I could put you in contact with him for some REAL perspective on how things work. Also realize that your ability to speak english allows you to teach ANYWHERE. Korea is one of many many coutries you would be able to travel to and work simply based on that ability to speak. It really is your most marketable international skill. Hey Mani do you have a contact? This sounds interesting, would like to talk about it. | ||
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GG15-Style
Panama593 Posts
On January 09 2005 11:19 Ack1027 wrote: I read the whole thing and basically what I feel from reading it is disappointment. Not disappointed in Rekrul particularly. Idk how to explain it. I feel disappointed that Rekrul feels the way he does and about the opinions he has formed in his short time in Korea. There are quite a few things I disagree with in Rekrul's post. I'm sure everyone knows [ anyone older than 12 ] that progaming is not for foreigners. Maybe it's something genetic, but other than Giyom, nobody else in the history of the world will be able to compete with the top tier Koreans now and in the future. [ No, I'm not being racist/supremist ] I am also quite sure that everyone here knows that the things they see in VODs is indeed glamorous. Not fake and unachievable as Rekrul seems to think. Those gamers have worked hard to get TV matches. Rek explained it, now you know in detail how hard it is to achieve pro-gamer status. So, what I am saying is that I strongly disagree on the point that what you see on VODs is not glamorous. They worked damn hard, it IS glamorous, and because Rekrul has never been on a TV match he will not know how much work it takes. However, neither do I. One thing we both are, are lovers of starcraft, and the other difference is that Rek has experienced part of the struggle it takes to become a progamer. We are both spectators of this game and have seen gamers cry, laugh, hug, and show all other emotions in leagues, tournaments, and even regular matches. If this is not real [ as in real life ] then I don't know what is. One thing I think Rekrul underestimates is the Korean culture aspect. Again, we differ here. I know Korean culture better than Rekrul because I am Korean and that is a fact. With that said, I feel like the culture is what allows those top tier pro-gamers to rise to a level unattainable by others using hours of their life on progaming rather than on a real job that is more stable. Of course we all had small hopes in our minds when Rek departed for Korea, but I'm sure most of us knew he would not do anything great there. Some of us even predicted this happening before Rek even got on the plane. [ I was one of them ] But I'm glad that Rek has chosen the best path for him. I'm glad it has not taken him as long as Elky and Assem and to a certain extent Giyom to quit starcraft and choose a better life because there are just way too many people better at starcraft than them. I'm glad he loves poker and that it happens to be the thing that keeps the money coming. I'm happy that a fellow teamliquid member feels good with the choices that he has made in life. I am only disheartened with the image of progaming he leaves with. That's about it. Hey this is my 2000th post! By the way Rek, if you're 19, I doubt you will ever learn to speak Korean fluently. elky was successful when he had the will...assem is progamer while rekrul failed. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4535 Posts
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instanthops
United States2 Posts
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Archon_Wing
United States378 Posts
On January 09 2005 15:28 Ack1027 wrote: Elky was successful. Yeah okay. Keep telling yourself that. 4th place in Starleague is not succesful enough for you? Anyhow, it's not always about success. Just the experience and making sure that you know it's time to move on is good enough. It gets bad when people don't realize that though. In the end, whatever makes you happy. I'm sure Rekrul has made good use of his time. Sure, one could go out at an early age and begin slaving to become a doctor or lawyer. But that's not the way for everyone. We'll always have idiots that will go like "OMG, you will be a failure unlike me who got into law school at age 17!" But really, you can only be young once. | ||
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mAKiTO
Colombia4177 Posts
On January 09 2005 15:45 instanthops wrote: I am happy that another foreign progamer has arrived hope you good luck show them how us americans do it Rekrul! what are u talking about dude | ||
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tfeign
United States2980 Posts
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LzGamer-
United States35 Posts
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Hydrolisko
Vanuatu1659 Posts
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ejai63
United States2101 Posts
On January 09 2005 12:12 Manifesto7 wrote: Don't listen to him, he is wrong. If you have a BA in anything, you can teach in Korea and make decent money. The amount of money you want to make depends on where you want to live. You can be in the middle of seoul and enjoy the big city, but it is horribly expensive to live in. If you choose a smaller city or the country-side, than you will be able to save more money as it is cheaper to live in. Yes there are many foreigners in Korea teaching english, and there are also many jobs. My best friend has just gone back for his third contract there, and if you are seriously interested I could put you in contact with him for some REAL perspective on how things work. Also realize that your ability to speak english allows you to teach ANYWHERE. Korea is one of many many coutries you would be able to travel to and work simply based on that ability to speak. It really is your most marketable international skill. to anyone considering moving to/living in korea; Living in Korea, especially foreigners, is really tough. I'm not trying to discourage anyone, but if you dont have the right perspective or information, then you are really in for a harsh reality check. I remember when kidred went to korea, and he thought he would do alright. honestly, so did i. he had a plan, some money, a few connections, and he wasnt THAT bad at korean to boot. he even had experience teaching koreans, and it seemed that all he wanted to do was live in korea...but he failed horribly. Competition for jobs in Korea is incredibly high. There are tons of Koreans who are fluent in both english and korean, as well as foreigners such as phds and professional teachers who are all looking for tutoring/teaching jobs. If you think that knowing english or having a degree will give you a leg up, you're completely wrong. i have friends who graduated from elite universities, are fluent in korean AND english, and they aggressively pursure jobs. you will need some connections before you go, though it isnt all that hard. i'm sure there are hakwons that bring in people from other countries to teach frequently; maybe you can find one of them and work it out. i dont wanna discourage anyone from lviing in korea, but it really isnt as glamorous as some people think it may be. definitely dont go and expect to make enough money for you to save up (i mean over several thousands). go for the experience of living in another country, or whatever other reason you may have. cost of living in korea is pretty high, and wages are very low. best case scenario, you will live in a pretty small apartment, make a couple hundred bucks a week, and have the standard of living of a college student. if this doesnt bother you, then by all means, go for it. however, just remember how difficult it is to find many students to teach. this is just one example, but i have a friend who graduated from stanford phi beta kappa, fluent in english and korean, and he lived in korea on his own for a year. Well, the first few months, he could barely find any work at all, and was literally skipping meals because he couldnt afford to eat. after maybe 6 months, he found more work and had a solid income, but it was still barely enough for him to live off of. Again, i dont mean to discourage anyone from going; it could really be the best experience of your life. just know that it will be incredibly difficult to do and plan very well if you decide to try. good luck | ||
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p-l.africanized
United States4 Posts
all though its kinda obvious theres not much money in pro gaming cause i read something bout legionare only getting 300 dollars a month and only the top 30 players getting anything in the thousands and u really could get more money on any job - i think a lot of ppl who are progamers are merely chasing the dream, and hopefull having fun playing starcraft i think chasing a dream is more important then money as long as u can support urself (clothing, food, a nice thing that u want to buy here and there) and even if u fail with that dream its nice to know u tried ur hardest and at least went after it | ||
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gg_hertzz
2152 Posts
And about the English teaching job thing, apparently if you're Caucasian you're going to get plenty of opportunities in that field. That is what I've heard at least. I know half a dozen white guys who went to Korea, got teaching jobs and brought back a Korean GF. I think it's very important that you 'show' the authenticity of your skills as an English teacher, and I don't think Koreans settle for anyone without the 'right' background. Anywho, glad you had the opportunities you had in Korea Rek. You're a very fortunate man. | ||
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TheGoliath
United States682 Posts
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