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TheGreenBeret
Profile Joined June 2004
United Kingdom548 Posts
January 09 2005 01:09 GMT
#101
at least when ur retired u can lie on ur death bed and think "i made a difference....i won a load of money of some dumbass suckers playing poker."
FrinkX
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States958 Posts
January 09 2005 01:12 GMT
#102
:D nice article
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
January 09 2005 01:16 GMT
#103
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sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
pooper-scooper
Profile Joined May 2003
United States3108 Posts
January 09 2005 01:20 GMT
#104
great article Rek... very thoughtful. Do you think as a tall white man, I could get a job in Korea in two years? I've got a balchelors in Physics, and can speak english. I could spend some time learning Korean.

I also am certified to teach physics and Math.

I would love to leave the country in a couple of years, and do just SOMETHING in Korea, would be great.
Good...Bad... Im the guy with the gun
MannerKiss
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2398 Posts
January 09 2005 01:39 GMT
#105
Gl, hope to see you on ESPN playing poker!
I want an igloo.
racebannon
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada1225 Posts
January 09 2005 01:44 GMT
#106
congratulations on living a dream and becoming the envy of many of us. I often entertain the idea of just dropping everything and moving to some foreign place just to see if I can handle it
when they really get to know you they will run
ejai63
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2101 Posts
January 09 2005 01:45 GMT
#107
On January 09 2005 10:20 pooper-scooper wrote:
great article Rek... very thoughtful. Do you think as a tall white man, I could get a job in Korea in two years? I've got a balchelors in Physics, and can speak english. I could spend some time learning Korean.

I also am certified to teach physics and Math.

I would love to leave the country in a couple of years, and do just SOMETHING in Korea, would be great.


Yes you could, but it would probably be very shitty. There are tons of foreigners in Korea who teach English, and most don't make a lot of money. If you have connections or very good business skills, then you can build up your clientele and really rake in some good cash, but doing this is very difficult.
1-10-5
rS.heaven
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada154 Posts
January 09 2005 01:56 GMT
#108
rekrul i always had an "oppinion" about you
and u just shattered that, good luck in korea
and thank for the brillant article
The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
January 09 2005 02:11 GMT
#109
Can you release some replays of yourself practicing fo a tournament or whatever!
TeRRan`UseR
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada692 Posts
January 09 2005 02:11 GMT
#110
I really hope this article helps a lot of teens see the light. There are so many kids wasting away their 13-19 year old years playing starcraft in hopes of making it big in Korea. They miss out on events which all teens should experience because they play starcraft constantly. An amazing. inspirational article, I give it 5 stars * * * * *
AKAs FreeloSS @USwest Freel0ss @Europe
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
January 09 2005 02:13 GMT
#111
On January 09 2005 11:11 Elsi wrote:
Can you release some replays of yourself practicing fo a tournament or whatever!


Yeah, that would go really well with this article.

On a side note, Rekrul has said what Maynard has been saying here for a long time, but people seemed to have responded better to it coming from Rekrul.
wtf was that signature
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-01-09 02:21:55
January 09 2005 02:17 GMT
#112
On January 09 2005 07:58 Tress wrote:
Show nested quote +
the night life / social scene is INCREDIBLY good and too god damn easy for tall white boys

So Rekrul, instead of making it big in the progaming scene, you've started "succeeding in life" by going into night clubs and getting an asian girlfriend? You've discovered your sexuality in Korea or something? What success is that? Were you perhaps a virgin going into Korea? You had never been in a city before?

You make it sound like you've somehow grown up now, but the thing which still reveals you as a dreamer is your poker talk. How much money do you make from playing internet poker? If you'd never played Starcraft and just got an education quickly, become a lawyer or a succesful businessman you'd make 50 times that and you'd have a lot of experience and a career by now. You would meet a lot of interesting people and you could build a life for yourself. You went to Korea with the idea that your skills in a computer game would get you through life, and now that you know that you were naive to assume that you go into assuming that poker will get you somewhere? You sound like a street hustler who sells dope on a day by day basis and thinks he's going to have a pension or something when he's old.

I'm sorry but you just seem to be afraid that people will make fun of your non-existent Starcraft skills. You never had any chance in progaming, like noone here does, but still you made it sound like you did. Now you're really disappointed that you in fact don't, and you want to explain everyone how cruel the real world is like. Well wake up kid and smell the coffee. After a while you'll realise that clubbing and partying takes you nowhere and you'll go back to USA with your tail between your legs and get back to school and everything starts from scratch once again. You can write another sorry post here then.

What will you have gained? Experience from life for sure. You'll know what not to do in the future. What you should have done is go into a university and be an exchange student for 2-3 years in a country of your choosing, or even many countries. You can see the world and enjoy it while actually doing something useful, like making yourself a better man. I did that, and now I have a career in law while you try to explain a bunch of 13 year old kids that in real life you have to work to be able to live. Yeah you're the man.


This post has the word JEALOUSY written all over it.

Stop trying to judge other people when you know little or nothing about who they are.

BTW, funny how you mentioned he could go to school and be a lawyer like you. This is definately jealousy.
We decide our own destiny
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-01-09 02:19:41
January 09 2005 02:19 GMT
#113
I read the whole thing and basically what I feel from reading it is disappointment.

Not disappointed in Rekrul particularly. Idk how to explain it. I feel disappointed that Rekrul feels the way he does and about the opinions he has formed in his short time in Korea.

There are quite a few things I disagree with in Rekrul's post.

I'm sure everyone knows [ anyone older than 12 ] that progaming is not for foreigners. Maybe it's something genetic, but other than Giyom, nobody else in the history of the world will be able to compete with the top tier Koreans now and in the future. [ No, I'm not being racist/supremist ] I am also quite sure that everyone here knows that the things they see in VODs is indeed glamorous. Not fake and unachievable as Rekrul seems to think. Those gamers have worked hard to get TV matches. Rek explained it, now you know in detail how hard it is to achieve pro-gamer status. So, what I am saying is that I strongly disagree on the point that what you see on VODs is not glamorous. They worked damn hard, it IS glamorous, and because Rekrul has never been on a TV match he will not know how much work it takes. However, neither do I. One thing we both are, are lovers of starcraft, and the other difference is that Rek has experienced part of the struggle it takes to become a progamer.

We are both spectators of this game and have seen gamers cry, laugh, hug, and show all other emotions in leagues, tournaments, and even regular matches. If this is not real [ as in real life ] then I don't know what is. One thing I think Rekrul underestimates is the Korean culture aspect. Again, we differ here. I know Korean culture better than Rekrul because I am Korean and that is a fact. With that said, I feel like the culture is what allows those top tier pro-gamers to rise to a level unattainable by others using hours of their life on progaming rather than on a real job that is more stable.

Of course we all had small hopes in our minds when Rek departed for Korea, but I'm sure most of us knew he would not do anything great there. Some of us even predicted this happening before Rek even got on the plane. [ I was one of them ]

But I'm glad that Rek has chosen the best path for him. I'm glad it has not taken him as long as Elky and Assem and to a certain extent Giyom to quit starcraft and choose a better life because there are just way too many people better at starcraft than them. I'm glad he loves poker and that it happens to be the thing that keeps the money coming. I'm happy that a fellow teamliquid member feels good with the choices that he has made in life.

I am only disheartened with the image of progaming he leaves with.

That's about it. Hey this is my 2000th post!

By the way Rek, if you're 19, I doubt you will ever learn to speak Korean fluently.
PuertoRican
Profile Joined April 2004
United States5709 Posts
January 09 2005 02:27 GMT
#114
i still love you Dan, this doesnt change anything about you as a person, i will still talk to you on AIM and at the next wcg, just not as much now ;( <3
If anyone orders any merlot Im leaving. I am NOT drinking any fucking merlot.
RedAreStupid.
Profile Joined March 2003
Sweden476 Posts
January 09 2005 02:30 GMT
#115
really enjoyed reading ur post rekrul,nice, btw can i get your progaming place?
is is the best
PuertoRican
Profile Joined April 2004
United States5709 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-01-09 02:36:56
January 09 2005 02:33 GMT
#116
On January 09 2005 09:25 Tress wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2005 09:16 Legionnaire wrote:
Tress, Rekrul made more in the last 2 months than the entire team put together, i'm pretty sure he makes more than you too

I don't see what that has got to do with anything, but since we're on the subject may I ask how much is that? I'm only 24 and straight out of law school so there's a limit to what I can earn in my job, but it's around 10K $ for two months at the moment. If Rekrul made more from poker and can keep on doing that for the rest of his life or even increase his income drastically, I really don't understand why he's been wasting time with a kids game like SC. But like someone else said, life is about other things than money too, and I enjoy what I do.

Hautamäki, you suck


wow, so you dont see why he was wasting his time with a kids game? get the fuck off this site if you think sc is a kids game. its called "love of the game". i know plenty of people who are older than i am, who play sc, im 22. the oldest person i know is 51 or 53


p.s. Dan, since you won a lot recently, loan some to Frink, he lost all his ;P
If anyone orders any merlot Im leaving. I am NOT drinking any fucking merlot.
mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
January 09 2005 02:36 GMT
#117
great article rekrul... have fun and good luck in the future
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
January 09 2005 02:38 GMT
#118
well looks like your trip was not what u were expecting at first, but i'm glad it turned out this way and i hope u have luck from now on. Enjoy Korea man
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27148 Posts
January 09 2005 02:51 GMT
#119
Tress you easily made the dumbest post in this short year. Congratulations.

Dan, through our conversations it has been apparent that while SC was the vessel that brought you to Korea, poker has been the engine that has allowed you to stay. It is a rare gift to be able to sustain yourself wherever you are through the game, and I am glad that you are taking advantage of the situation.

As someone who has also experienced living in another asian culture, I can share some of your appreciation for the experiences and impacts it can have on your life. One of the most important parts I believe is the fact that you are only 19 years old, so there is no pressure on you to "get on with your life" as some people here would argue. There is no reason that you shouldnt stay, learn another language, and just enjoy a different world.

I enjoyed the look at the way SC fits into Korean society, and it confirmed my opinions of it being a niche market. I would be interested to know about it's growth or decline, or whether the size is stagnant. I think that with the apparent success of KTF's unit in creating new revenue that more money will be pumped into teams, but that is all dependant of people still watching the game.

Anyways, good luck with the move, and you better stick around these boards.

Cheers,
Trevor.

ModeratorGodfather
Sasory
Profile Joined October 2004
Romania13 Posts
January 09 2005 02:54 GMT
#120
Is a good thing that you still have a choice but to me it looks like u didn't have the right attitude twards the whole thing. Did you really thinck that 6months will be enough? The moment you start having negative thoughts, it was all over. Good post, but you have to read between the lines a little bit. I really hope to see foreigners kick some korean ass but as long as people study them, there is no hope. U can't beat a man at his own game. You must have....your own style?
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