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Motorpsycho
Profile Joined April 2003
Norway71 Posts
January 09 2005 00:04 GMT
#81
Rek

What limits do you play, and what's your BB/100hands win rate?

thanks,

motorpsycho
It is true that no man is an island, bu if you tie a bunch of dead people together they make a pretty good raft
Hautamaki
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Canada1311 Posts
January 09 2005 00:06 GMT
#82
Wow Tress, clearly you have shown us all that you are indeed the superiour human being with that awesome, insightful, and well thought out post. I know a lot of lawyers btw. One of them is a wife beater whose wife and children left him. He sure has a nice big white house though!

Let me tell you something. When you are old, and have money, you will realise that you would trade it all back in in a second to go back and relive your youth. The memories that Rekrul will have will be worth more than all of your money. The experiences that he's lived, in favour of rushing off to school, are priceless. And, he's 19 years old. He will probably go back to America with a fair amount of money, go to some school and get some good job, and when he's 50 and you're whatever, what will the difference be? Maybe your house will have 2 or 3 more rooms. Maybe your car will be worth $20,000 more. And you will look back on your boring ass life and only be able to wish that you had lived when you were young.

Furthermore, I also know some pro-poker players. And I'd be willing to bet their incomes are comparable to yours. And I'd be willing to bet that you'd give lawyering up in a second if you realised that these guys work maybe 4 or 5 hours in a given day doing something they love, while any lawyer I know puts in at least 9 hours a day, mostly researching case files, legal history, and precedents, which has got to be one of the most boring and dry ass things a person can do. If any pro poker player I know put in that kind of time, they'd be gajillionaires. And they didn't have to blow 7 years and 150 grand at school to do it.

The fact is that you either are, or should be, jealous of Rekrul. So why isn't everyone a pro poker player or progamer? Because it takes natural inborn talent. Some people have that opporunity and most don't. But those that do should jump at their opportunity and never look back.
True learning is not the memorization of knowledge; it is the internalization of patterns.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
January 09 2005 00:08 GMT
#83
On January 09 2005 07:58 Tress wrote:
Show nested quote +
the night life / social scene is INCREDIBLY good and too god damn easy for tall white boys

So Rekrul, instead of making it big in the progaming scene, you've started "succeeding in life" by going into night clubs and getting an asian girlfriend? You've discovered your sexuality in Korea or something? What success is that? Were you perhaps a virgin going into Korea? You had never been in a city before?

You make it sound like you've somehow grown up now, but the thing which still reveals you as a dreamer is your poker talk. How much money do you make from playing internet poker? If you'd never played Starcraft and just got an education quickly, become a lawyer or a succesful businessman you'd make 50 times that and you'd have a lot of experience and a career by now. You would meet a lot of interesting people and you could build a life for yourself. You went to Korea with the idea that your skills in a computer game would get you through life, and now that you know that you were naive to assume that you go into assuming that poker will get you somewhere? You sound like a street hustler who sells dope on a day by day basis and thinks he's going to have a pension or something when he's old.

I'm sorry but you just seem to be afraid that people will make fun of your non-existent Starcraft skills. You never had any chance in progaming, like noone here does, but still you made it sound like you did. Now you're really disappointed that you in fact don't, and you want to explain everyone how cruel the real world is like. Well wake up kid and smell the coffee. After a while you'll realise that clubbing and partying takes you nowhere and you'll go back to USA with your tail between your legs and get back to school and everything starts from scratch once again. You can write another sorry post here then.

What will you have gained? Experience from life for sure. You'll know what not to do in the future. What you should have done is go into a university and be an exchange student for 2-3 years in a country of your choosing, or even many countries. You can see the world and enjoy it while actually doing something useful, like making yourself a better man. I did that, and now I have a career in law while you try to explain a bunch of 13 year old kids that in real life you have to work to be able to live. Yeah you're the man.


What exactly is your personal stake in his life, whether it be here in college or there gaming? Upset that he didn't furnish you with a plethora of replays for you to watch while preparing your next case? Do you really expect anyone to believe you're a shining beacon of responsibility and intelligent choices when you spend your time condescending a 19 year old on an internet forum? That aside, there are so many logical flaws in your little rant that I have a hard time believing you could argue your way out of a parking ticket.
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RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
January 09 2005 00:09 GMT
#84
Pretty long...but it was nice reading it. Im glad u liked korea and that u got some perspective for life. And thx for clearing up for a lot of ppl who think that in korea they had starcraft bo subjects at school -_-;
Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4515 Posts
January 09 2005 00:16 GMT
#85
Tress, Rekrul made more in the last 2 months than the entire team put together, i'm pretty sure he makes more than you too
My hope is one day stupid people will feel the same pain when they talk, as the pain the rest of us feel when we hear them. Twitter: @Legionnaire_au
Izenra
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada679 Posts
January 09 2005 00:18 GMT
#86
Poker is really a good source of money. One can easely live of it if he's whilling to do it.

I started 2 week ago, i make about 30 us//hour-->38 $can//hour playing .25/.50

average salary in the whole country is like 15-20 $can


rekrul being really better and playing higher stake must make some few $K each session and can live off of it.
Tress
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden39 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-01-09 00:30:07
January 09 2005 00:25 GMT
#87
On January 09 2005 09:16 Legionnaire wrote:
Tress, Rekrul made more in the last 2 months than the entire team put together, i'm pretty sure he makes more than you too

I don't see what that has got to do with anything, but since we're on the subject may I ask how much is that? I'm only 24 and straight out of law school so there's a limit to what I can earn in my job, but it's around 10K $ for two months at the moment. If Rekrul made more from poker and can keep on doing that for the rest of his life or even increase his income drastically, I really don't understand why he's been wasting time with a kids game like SC. But like someone else said, life is about other things than money too, and I enjoy what I do.

Hautamäki, you suck
warrior8
Profile Joined January 2005
33 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-01-09 00:33:55
January 09 2005 00:29 GMT
#88
man no matter what game you are playing pro-gaming can be a bitch..i had a friend who plays X-box live Dead or Alive... anyways in X-box live he beat Tom Brady,,, the best in the world... he even beat him a few times.. his online name is guts.. even though he lost more against tom brady then win he is still pretty amazing especially when he does not take the game seriosuly like tom.. tom gets like 80,000 from some tournaments he won (of course he plays on arcade not X-boX). he offered my friend to come to New York and play him or enter a tournie (he was willing to pay for him)... my friend just laughed.. he also doesnt want to play cuase he has some nerve issues in his arm..

the point is some people just have a talent for it while other people have to work their asses for it.. the people who have to work hard to succeed always learn the most even if they do not succeed.. also i think u gotta have some back-up plan in order to succeed incase you don't.. kinda like Tom Brady who is pretty rich right now and also is studying law while at the same time making mad money off fighting games.. he claims he plays 100+ games a day sometimes... while my friend does not even care about the game..

well i guess rekrul was lucky he had some success and talent in poker or he might have ended up in 7-11..

in conclusion when going into pro gaming you gotta be prepared for the worst but also the best...
everyman dies, not every man really lives
rSWisdom[9]
Profile Joined August 2004
United States117 Posts
January 09 2005 00:32 GMT
#89
great read, i actually read it all the way through . well rek, i'm glad that you've learned a lot about yourself and where you want to go, even if it may disappoint some people that the second american progamer is going to quit . good that somebody shows the bad sides to progaming that we never really hear about. but anyways, if you wanna help out other foreigners going to korea....... i'm listening :D
Tomcat
Profile Joined November 2002
Romania136 Posts
January 09 2005 00:41 GMT
#90
On January 09 2005 09:06 Hautamaki wrote:

Let me tell you something. When you are old, and have money, you will realise that you would trade it all back in in a second to go back and relive your youth. The memories that Rekrul will have will be worth more than all of your money. The experiences that he's lived, in favour of rushing off to school, are priceless. And, he's 19 years old. He will probably go back to America with a fair amount of money, go to some school and get some good job, and when he's 50 and you're whatever, what will the difference be? Maybe your house will have 2 or 3 more rooms. Maybe your car will be worth $20,000 more. And you will look back on your boring ass life and only be able to wish that you had lived when you were young.


And I guess it's better to be 50 years old, have 2 or 3 rooms less and a lot of memories about the tank that Boxer moved up the cliff overseeing Yellow's drones, to smash his mineral lines to bits. Not to mention being an ill little mutant, due to the thousands of nights that you lost watching replays and pursuing a goal that has no finality.

I have wasted waaay to much time on computer games. They are addictive and will change your life forever. And after all that time, you will notice that it was not for the better. I wish I had spent a few years of my life differently, but those days are gone. The moment you get really serious about gaming, and not just SC, your social life goes straight to hell. Please don't tell me that you can play for 10 hours a day and still have a social life. Those who think that are really naive.

It's all a matter of taste, of personality and style. What's a blast for many could be a real bore for others. He was expressing an opinion. OK, maybe he was a bit incisive, but he was just backing up a point.

My 2 cents...
OgerDaniel
Profile Joined March 2003
273 Posts
January 09 2005 00:45 GMT
#91
just leave a man's life to himself 8[
Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
January 09 2005 00:46 GMT
#92
Thank you Rekrul, for sharing that with the community.

It sure as hell opened my eyes to the reality of the glamorous facade I see in VODS. In writing this, you may not have only opened a new chapter in your life, but a new chapter in someone else's life. Thank you.
Remember 11-12-04. 이윤열 ~. |||| ZerO, IriS, JangBi, Stork, BackHo! Mah Jae Yoon is no longer a feared entity.
Hautamaki
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Canada1311 Posts
January 09 2005 00:46 GMT
#93
haha Tomcat, I'm so sorry for you that your experiences playing games leave you with a bitter taste in your mouth, but maybe you should wake up and realise that that's obviously not the case for Rekrul or for most people who played Starcraft, seriously or not. I'm only glad you seem to have quit when you did, clearly you're not cut out for it. It's too bad you can't realise that just because you aren't, some other people might still be.
True learning is not the memorization of knowledge; it is the internalization of patterns.
Izenra
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada679 Posts
January 09 2005 00:46 GMT
#94
Tomcat, [some] people doesn't give a shit about social life. As long as one live happy, that all that matters. Oh and it's weird how some people are so damn stuck on the american way of life ( have a family, a repetitive job for the rest of your life, a ''land'', etc)
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2984 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-01-09 00:50:36
January 09 2005 00:48 GMT
#95
On January 09 2005 09:45 OgerDaniel wrote:
just leave a man's life to himself 8[


wise and short .... Tress : read ans learn from oger ^^

edit : oh but wait, you're such an important and almighty person you probably won't have time to read this stupid site about a kids game.....
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
January 09 2005 00:48 GMT
#96
why do you guys sit and argue about stuff that is completely based upon opinion
radiaL
Profile Joined August 2003
Andorra2690 Posts
January 09 2005 00:49 GMT
#97
On January 09 2005 09:41 Tomcat wrote:
Please don't tell me that you can play for 10 hours a day and still have a social life. Those who think that are really naive.

so wait, in 3 years, when I graduate from univ, and will work 8 hours a day, i wont have a social life either?
aaaah! i knew there was some catch to making money..
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IcedEarth
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States3661 Posts
January 09 2005 00:52 GMT
#98
I'm at a loss for words. GL in life, Rekrul.
Guardian guardian guardian of the blind
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2984 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-01-09 00:54:39
January 09 2005 00:54 GMT
#99
it's all about finding some kind of "equilibrium" i don't know what it is in a computer game that automatically turns you into a geek. I play starcraft, i have a social life, i study and i'm fine with it.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
bburn
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1039 Posts
January 09 2005 00:58 GMT
#100
Rek, you found something you like to do, are good at, and can make money off...if only the rest of us were so lucky. GL man. On a side note I am shocked no one has asked for reps yet lol.
banana[AfO]
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