good post rek, but isn't you think its time to go home? I mean, you describe the possible outcome of most progamers as ending up at some 7-11 outlet... but do you really see yourself going back to korea later, assuming you have a sufficient grasp of the language? I can understand why you'd want to stay in korea (for the experience), but it sounds like you're not really going to be doing anything productive for the next few years... it'll change you for the better, yes, but at the same time those years may be no better spent than when playing starcraft. You can play poker and work out just as easily in the US, but you could be getting your degree too.

Anyway, not trying to tell you how to live your life (I know I'd want to stay), but I'm just curious given your view on the afterlife of amateur progaming.

AK-Nemesis

2005 Posts

January 08 2005 17:58 GMT

#24

great post..
it was too bad, i was really looking forward to the tv games...

draeger

United States3256 Posts

January 08 2005 17:58 GMT

#25

Good post! I'm glad a foreigner who has experienced the scene first hand decided to post something as blunt as this about the realities of BW in korea. Everything I have gathered about the size and strength of BW in korea is basically affirmed from this.

It still sounds like you have matured quite a bit and found more benefit to being in korea than SC

Rekrul

Korea (South)17174 Posts

January 08 2005 18:01 GMT

#26

On January 09 2005 02:56 FirstProbe wrote:
good post rek, but isn't you think its time to go home? I mean, you describe the possible outcome of most progamers as ending up at some 7-11 outlet... but do you really see yourself going back to korea later, assuming you have a sufficient grasp of the language? I can understand why you'd want to stay in korea (for the experience), but it sounds like you're not really going to be doing anything productive for the next few years... it'll change you for the better, yes, but at the same time those years may be no better spent than when playing starcraft. You can play poker and work out just as easily in the US, but you could be getting your degree too.

Anyway, not trying to tell you how to live your life (I know I'd want to stay), but I'm just curious given your view on the afterlife of amateur progaming.

enjoying life is productive in my opinion. i am staying here simply because right now i like korea a lot better than the USA. and anyways, as i said i will be studying the language because i really want to become fluent, and that IS productive and WILL help me now and in the future if i ever go back after college. I'm only 19...I have time.

edit: and saving up a large amount of money that can be invested and used in several ways to do something is very productive (yeah even though I could do that in the USA, if i like it here better why not do it here?)

Stygg

Sweden1100 Posts

January 08 2005 18:01 GMT

#27

Very very interesting post, full of insights into progaming and Korean culture.. I'm saving it. And I like your ability to see a half full glass rather than half empty. Good job and good luck in the future.

Cresfy

Israel977 Posts

January 08 2005 18:07 GMT

#28

On January 09 2005 03:01 Rekrul wrote:
I'm only 19...I have time.

omg wtf you're only 19? -____------------- well don't worry about 'wasting' a year or two in korea instead of studying cause SOME PEOPLE have mandatory army drafting for 3 years when they're 18 ahhhhhh omg i hate u guys ._.

ChApFoU

France2982 Posts

January 08 2005 18:08 GMT

#29

On January 09 2005 02:18 Rekrul wrote:

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he will remain on the team because he is a "big name" but i highly doubt he will ever get back into starcraft

though from time to time he randomly talks about how he's is going to/needs to get back into sc and "rape some fuckers"

thx for the info, too bad he doesn't play seriously anymore coz i'm a big fan of him but i can understand that him being 23 years old he must have a lot of other things to think about like building up serious life projects and stuff ( + the gaming level must have increased a lot since the time he was top 10 KeSpa) ......... and there's poker, and nightclubs, and girls.... ^^ life is hard

just tell him that nothing could please more the french community and the VOD thirsty maniac i am than seeing him owning up ogn like in the old times :p

FirstProbe

1206 Posts

January 08 2005 18:21 GMT

#30

fair enough though I'm sure you can see how going back home would be equally if not more so productive in view of overall lifetime objectives, and thats all I'm really pointing out.

edit: really bad at the quote thingy. Cresfy, just because other people are forced to take time off, doesn't mean we shouldn't worry about potentially 'waste'ing what time we have :D

Cresfy

Israel977 Posts

January 08 2005 18:28 GMT

#31

On January 09 2005 03:21 FirstProbe wrote:
fair enough though I'm sure you can see how going back home would be equally if not more so productive in view of overall lifetime objectives, and thats all I'm really pointing out.

edit: really bad at the quote thingy. Cresfy, just because other people are forced to take time off, doesn't mean we shouldn't worry about potentially 'waste'ing what time we have :D

i know, im trying to make everyone in the world to lose 3 years of their lives as well so i wont be left behind &_&
oh my i hate israel :[

[BOyGiRl]ShaRp

Korea (S)1912 Posts

January 08 2005 18:29 GMT

#32

Ahh..this sucks

starofNC

United States1340 Posts

January 08 2005 18:33 GMT

#33

Nice post, I think you balanced the personal aspects with the universal aspects of progaming well.... since this post was pretty straightforward, why poker as a source of income man? Try English tutoring..... or English translation... or anything to do with your english skills, I'm just saying its one thing to crash and burn once but why set yourself up for a possible failure again? You definately highlighted the incorrect view of starcraft pro-gaming in korea that many people hold, but I think that computer gaming in general is still quite large beyond imagination (hangame, x2game, freechal, battle.net, yahoo, etc etc)

Thanks for your time posting this I found it good reading

AsHRaK

Poland250 Posts

January 08 2005 18:35 GMT

#34

Great job with the text, and even better on enjoying your life like you should be. hf

cYaN

Norway3322 Posts

January 08 2005 18:42 GMT

#35

i could never play the amount that is required to succeed. Not even at home when i'm bored, nevermind in another country and having fun.
sad to see one of the few foreigners left in korea leaving (the team) though.
will expect a wcg2k5 victory

jacen

Austria3644 Posts

January 08 2005 18:44 GMT

#36

On January 09 2005 03:01 Rekrul wrote:enjoying life is productive in my opinion. i am staying here simply because right now i like korea a lot better than the USA. and anyways, as i said i will be studying the language because i really want to become fluent, and that IS productive and WILL help me now and in the future if i ever go back after college. I'm only 19...I have time.

edit: and saving up a large amount of money that can be invested and used in several ways to do something is very productive (yeah even though I could do that in the USA, if i like it here better why not do it here?)

hey, at least say it that your doing it for the girl :D

cYaN

Norway3322 Posts

January 08 2005 18:45 GMT

#37

oh and... how is shinya's skill level these days? everytime i see a rep or something of him he seems really good. you said he was the pure gamer. think we might see him in a star league or something soon?