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Don't post in this thread to say "gay gamers are like everyone else, why do they have a special thread?" It is something that has been posted numerous times, and this isn't the place for that discussion.
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On May 01 2011 06:12 Velocirapture wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 05:51 adrenaLinG wrote:GRRRR. I was replying to this thread before it got closed: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218014So I'm posting my reply to entertain you guys anyway I agree. As the State of Texas recently argued, straights deserve equal funding whenever gays get any special attention. There needs to be straight pride parades, so heterosexuals can express their sexuality openly. It isn't just limited to the realm of sexuality. Why is it that ethnic minorities get attention through special Latino, Asian, and African American clubs as well? This simply is unfair. I propose, in addition to straight pride parades, that we have days of celebrations for Caucasians as well -- you could call it a White Day. Furthermore, there should be opportunities for non-profit organizations to support student clubs to support Caucasians as well -- such as a White Students' Club on university campuses. The only response to this argument is the very simple, "Every day is straight day. Every day is white day." although I do appreciate your extra effort ;D .
Where is the white parade located at, so I may attend.
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I agree whole heartedly, for far, far too long, white heterosexuals have faced resitance, discrimination and oppression throughought the course of human history, and its time for us to come together as one and proclaim, No Longer!
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Imagine if the only place you could meet girls was an internet forum called "Heterosexuality". You've never seen them in class. You've not seen them on the street. You've never had a conversation with one, you've never even made contact. Man, that would suck.
I don't want to get into details on opinions or anything, but OP, this really doesn't make sense. You DO see other men on the street and you DO see them in class (gay or not), so I don't quite understand what you're getting at here, maybe I'm missing something? Someone help me out?
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On May 01 2011 12:08 Wargable wrote:Show nested quote +Imagine if the only place you could meet girls was an internet forum called "Heterosexuality". You've never seen them in class. You've not seen them on the street. You've never had a conversation with one, you've never even made contact. Man, that would suck. I don't want to get into details on opinions or anything, but OP, this really doesn't make sense. You DO see other men on the street and you DO see them in class (gay or not), so I don't quite understand what you're getting at here, maybe I'm missing something? Someone help me out?
When you're straight, society is constructed around your endeavors to find someone of the opposite sex to hook up with or get into a relationship with, from high school to adulthood. You can reliably pursue any woman in your life and assume that she is straight.
Gay guys have no such luck. 97% chance is that any guy we meet will be completely off-limits. Depending on the culture you grew up in, it's quite likely that a young gay guy could have never even met or been friends with another gay guy. I know that was the case with me before college.
If you want to meet another guy for a relationship, you pretty much have to get lucky and meet a gay guy by chance who you are attracted to (and is attracted to you), or you have to take special efforts to meet other gay guys at specially designated gay bars or gay clubs or gay websites.
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On May 01 2011 14:54 matjlav wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 12:08 Wargable wrote:Imagine if the only place you could meet girls was an internet forum called "Heterosexuality". You've never seen them in class. You've not seen them on the street. You've never had a conversation with one, you've never even made contact. Man, that would suck. I don't want to get into details on opinions or anything, but OP, this really doesn't make sense. You DO see other men on the street and you DO see them in class (gay or not), so I don't quite understand what you're getting at here, maybe I'm missing something? Someone help me out? When you're straight, society is constructed around your endeavors to find someone of the opposite sex to hook up with or get into a relationship with, from high school to adulthood. You can reliably pursue any woman in your life and assume that she is straight. Gay guys have no such luck. 97% chance is that any guy we meet will be completely off-limits. Depending on the culture you grew up in, it's quite likely that a young gay guy could have never even met or been friends with another gay guy. I know that was the case with me before college. If you want to meet another guy for a relationship, you pretty much have to get lucky and meet a gay guy by chance who you are attracted to (and is attracted to you), or you have to take special efforts to meet other gay guys at specially designated gay bars or gay clubs or gay websites.
The other major issue is to is if you read a message wrong from some one and end up hitting on a straight guy most of them take it really really horribly. Even if the person is not a homophobe it can really freak them out and you can end up losing a friend over it or something worse. Just like OP said you can hit on a women and get rejected and their are no repercussions where as being a man hitting on another man can lose you friends and much much more. Thats why people of the same mentality group together so we do not have to deal with issues society takes up with you just for trying to seek companionship.
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I dont know if this makes me gay or not, but ive always had a strong feminine side.
Ive wanted to wear a wedding dress, i love hello kitty, and hate scary movies
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On May 02 2011 05:19 KingOfKangTheHee wrote: I dont know if this makes me gay or not, but ive always had a strong feminine side.
Ive wanted to wear a wedding dress, i love hello kitty, and hate scary movies
That's not good enough, I'm afraid. You need to want to f me.
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On May 02 2011 07:28 platorepublic wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 05:19 KingOfKangTheHee wrote: I dont know if this makes me gay or not, but ive always had a strong feminine side.
Ive wanted to wear a wedding dress, i love hello kitty, and hate scary movies
That's not good enough, I'm afraid. You need to want to f me. I guess no one in the world would be gay then..
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My friend just sent me this thread, haven't had time to go through all of it but I am a StarCraft 2 player (I've played SC since it first came out in 1998), who just happens to be gay.
I never struggled with the nerd part of me, I was a gamer from a young age, had a lot of gamer friends. Went to anime conventions when I was younger, lan parties, MMOs, the whole enchilada. Coming out though was an interesting process since none of my friends were gay. It was definitely a rite of passage. I think especially when you're younger, you always are trying to find a place to fit in. So I was wondering if I would fit in with this or that group of gay people. I think a lot of people have this conception that if you look the same or like the same things, you're automatically friends. But I never really joined many Asian groups on campus. I went to some meetings or events for various gay groups but they were pretty exclusionary, which put me off when I was already wary. It took me a while to learn that I don't fit in just one group and that I needed to just be myself instead of what people thought I should be or act like. I think that this idea is probably where you can see some animated personalities from gay people. I don't care if a guy is feminine if it's genuine (not my type for dating but as a friend, that shouldn't matter) but I know a lot just play this sort of act, maybe because it's what they've seen or because they get more attention that way.
In regards to dating, it is difficult unless you're in a big city where it's just part of the demographic. I'm from SF area and I live in NYC now so there's just more gay people and gay-friendly people. Usually people are more forthcoming when they've accepted being gay, they'll make a comment about an ex-boyfriend or thinking James Franco is hot etc. You can ask in these situations, but I usually just bring up something like Lady Gaga or Real Housewives or any Bravo show to see how he reacts lol. But that's probably why online dating is easier these days, you can search guys who like guys, and it'd be hard to meet people otherwise since a bar isn't always the best place to find someone looking for a relationship.
I actually write a dating column called "The Dating Game" about how gaming plays in our dating lives (I try to keep it general and relatable but obviously my personal experiences are guy-guy). I've written quite a few that have involved StarCraft and I definitely tell my friends that I need to find a guy who can handle that I like to binge once in a while on SC2 until the sun comes up. Here's a choice line I'm quite proud of:
"My friend...used StarCraft commentary terms to relate to my love life describing a pivotal revelation as having been done at the perfect "timing push." I gave her a high five and was just happy she didn't choose to describe my love life as having taken "terrible terrible damage.""
If you care to read: http://brokemycontroller.com/gamer-culture/737-the-dating-game-love-is-just-a-game http://brokemycontroller.com/gamer-culture/114-the-dating-game-dealbreakers http://brokemycontroller.com/gamer-culture/1347-the-dating-game-the-annual-up-date http://brokemycontroller.com/gamer-culture/1497-the-dating-game-online-gaming-a-online-dating
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On May 03 2011 00:06 Chopin- wrote:My friend just sent me this thread, haven't had time to go through all of it but I am a StarCraft 2 player (I've played SC since it first came out in 1998), who just happens to be gay. I never struggled with the nerd part of me, I was a gamer from a young age, had a lot of gamer friends. Went to anime conventions when I was younger, lan parties, MMOs, the whole enchilada. Coming out though was an interesting process since none of my friends were gay. It was definitely a rite of passage. I think especially when you're younger, you always are trying to find a place to fit in. So I was wondering if I would fit in with this or that group of gay people. I think a lot of people have this conception that if you look the same or like the same things, you're automatically friends. But I never really joined many Asian groups on campus. I went to some meetings or events for various gay groups but they were pretty exclusionary, which put me off when I was already wary. It took me a while to learn that I don't fit in just one group and that I needed to just be myself instead of what people thought I should be or act like. I think that this idea is probably where you can see some animated personalities from gay people. I don't care if a guy is feminine if it's genuine (not my type for dating but as a friend, that shouldn't matter) but I know a lot just play this sort of act, maybe because it's what they've seen or because they get more attention that way. In regards to dating, it is difficult unless you're in a big city where it's just part of the demographic. I'm from SF area and I live in NYC now so there's just more gay people and gay-friendly people. Usually people are more forthcoming when they've accepted being gay, they'll make a comment about an ex-boyfriend or thinking James Franco is hot etc. You can ask in these situations, but I usually just bring up something like Lady Gaga or Real Housewives or any Bravo show to see how he reacts lol. But that's probably why online dating is easier these days, you can search guys who like guys, and it'd be hard to meet people otherwise since a bar isn't always the best place to find someone looking for a relationship. I actually write a dating column called "The Dating Game" about how gaming plays in our dating lives (I try to keep it general and relatable but obviously my personal experiences are guy-guy). I've written quite a few that have involved StarCraft and I definitely tell my friends that I need to find a guy who can handle that I like to binge once in a while on SC2 until the sun comes up. Here's a choice line I'm quite proud of: "My friend...used StarCraft commentary terms to relate to my love life describing a pivotal revelation as having been done at the perfect "timing push." I gave her a high five and was just happy she didn't choose to describe my love life as having taken "terrible terrible damage."" If you care to read: http://brokemycontroller.com/gamer-culture/737-the-dating-game-love-is-just-a-gamehttp://brokemycontroller.com/gamer-culture/114-the-dating-game-dealbreakershttp://brokemycontroller.com/gamer-culture/1347-the-dating-game-the-annual-up-datehttp://brokemycontroller.com/gamer-culture/1497-the-dating-game-online-gaming-a-online-dating Haha @ one of the links:
"Love is just a game, like Starcraft..."
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On May 01 2011 11:38 XeliN wrote: I agree whole heartedly, for far, far too long, white heterosexuals have faced resitance, discrimination and oppression throughought the course of human history, and its time for us to come together as one and proclaim, No Longer!
I'm guessing you were being sarcastic?
Read John D'Emilio and Estelle Freedman's Intimate Matters: A History of Sexuality in America. It will change your mind about that. In the late 1920s/ early 1930s there was actually a shift from relative tolerance of the gay community in certain major cities to a crackdown promulgated by the Red Scare and the scientific community. Remember it wasn't until the early twentieth century that a concept of heterosexuality was established and, unfortunately, a homosexual other. Eighteenth and nineteenth century same-sex contact was considered deviant because it specifically did not involve procreation and was therefore lumped in with prostitution and oral sex for quite some time as the same category of sexual activity.
I hope e-sports takes its place in history as an open community and refrains from the binarism that exists in major athletic sports.
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Question for the gay guys in this thread; Just out of curiosity, imagine there was a pill that would turn you hetrosexual - would you take it?
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On May 03 2011 10:16 WhiteraCares wrote: Question for the gay guys in this thread; Just out of curiosity, imagine there was a pill that would turn you hetrosexual - would you take it? Hmmm.... interesting question. I would cause I'd be too curious.... KIDDING. Of course not.
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this is fucking appalling...im going to go throw up now...keep your gay shit separate from starcraft. TL is not the internet's fag friend finder.......
User was banned for this post.
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Alright this is probably the most relevant thread for these burning questions from a straight male:
1) Who is the sexiest foreigner SC2 player?
2) Who is the sexiest Korean SC2 player?
3) Which SC2 players/pros are probably gay (approximated via gaydar of course)?
Thanks in advance
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On May 03 2011 10:24 Vaelestrasz wrote: this is fucking appalling...im going to go throw up now...keep your gay shit separate from starcraft. TL is not the internet's fag friend finder.......
*smokes cigarette* Hope you enjoyed your stay you ignorant scum sucking little shit.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On May 03 2011 10:27 FallDownMarigold wrote: Alright this is probably the most relevant thread for these burning questions from a straight male:
1) Who is the sexiest foreigner SC2 player?
2) Who is the sexiest Korean SC2 player?
3) Which SC2 players/pros are probably gay (approximated via gaydar of course)?
Thanks in advance
hahahah my first thought too!
I find it sad that gay people have to think like this, i would hope society would be more accepting now days, i for one have no problems with gay people and think its disgusting that other people do
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On May 03 2011 10:24 Vaelestrasz wrote: this is fucking appalling...im going to go throw up now...keep your gay shit separate from starcraft. TL is not the internet's fag friend finder.......
How is he not banned yet.
And Gay people - just like to clarify to you that God your Father loves. you. all. God hates Sin. He hates all of us straight people for lusting in our hearts, for stealing, for plotting schemes, for gossiping, for rejecting him, for worshiping idols, for being selfish, the list goes on.
God loves gay people and straight people. Yet the specific issue God has with gay people is that he created Marriage to be a Holy union of a Male and a Female. Genesis chapter 1-3 describes his purpose for humanity - to be fruitful and multiply in the physical sense, and the spiritual sense (Matthew 28). I guess we can't do that if we are all gay! Also. Adam rated Eve quite a lot "She is the Flesh of my Flesh, Bone of my Bones" Yum!! Women were indeed beautiful to men in the beginning.
I'm not sure why Gays feel homosexual lustful tendencies, but whatever the case may be, homosexual lust and homosexual sex is sin before God, just as selfishness, greed, lustfulness, adultery, rejecting God is sin. God does not hate you specifically. He hates Sin in general as he is Holy and perfect.
All the best in your lives, I have a gay friend and he is very kind to me. I love gay people because you are also made in the image of God.
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On May 03 2011 10:30 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 10:27 FallDownMarigold wrote: Alright this is probably the most relevant thread for these burning questions from a straight male:
1) Who is the sexiest foreigner SC2 player?
2) Who is the sexiest Korean SC2 player?
3) Which SC2 players/pros are probably gay (approximated via gaydar of course)?
Thanks in advance
hahahah my first thought too! I find it sad that gay people have to think like this, i would hope society would be more accepting now days, i for one have no problems with gay people and think its disgusting that other people do
My questions were your first thought upon seeing this thread too? Cool, I still need consensus though.
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On May 01 2011 06:35 matjlav wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 06:02 D_K_night wrote: I have a question regarding a buddy of mine that maybe you shed some insight on, Mora.
This friend of mine I have always suspected he's gay. Whether he is or isn't doesn't make any difference to me. Upon introducing him to many of my other friends(including one fella who says he has very enhanced gaydar), almost all of them think he's gay. The one exception is on the fence about it, he thinks this buddy is just a very feminine guy - but he's not gay.
So here's the specific behaviours/attributes:
- He dresses fairly flamboyant compared to the rest of us, typically a nicer shirt, more flashy hairstyle, generally stuff that looks better than the nerdy clothes around us
- He's very anti-gay and makes a big point many times, that he came from a Catholic school, so therefore he hates gays. It's a well-worn cliche in movies/TV that the biggest bigot is precisely the one who's secretly gay, and overcompensating as a result.
- His general mannerisms are very feminine. He speaks in a high-pitched voice which...it's not where it's a Mike Tyson type of pitch(big huge man with a small voice), but it has an almost feminine melody to it. The way he waves his hands, the way he blushes and smiles when people suggest "oh you guys can be diving buddies now".
- The types of girls he likes are people like Paris Hilton. To me that would have sealed the deal, ok he's not gay if he likes Paris. But my gaydar friend says "well lots of gay guys like Paris Hilton because of her fashion". So that one got me. Mr. Gaydar also observed "he seems think he's better than everyone else".
So what do you think? What a silly post. You can't just derive whether someone is a closeted homosexual from a short text description... human behavior and sexuality are way too complicated to ever get a 100% read on someone. It's really quite pointless to try and figure a friend's sexual preference out beyond what identity they have chosen for themselves at the moment.
Dudie, while I agree with you whole heartedly, lets be a bit nicer about it. Part of this thread is a question/answer to shed a bit of light and understanding on all that is homo. These observations may be silly to you, but to someone who is not gay or has maybe not had much exposure to homo's these signs may seem to mean something.
DK, I agree with matjlav. While all these things may point to this guy being gay, there is no sure fire way to confirm it unless he tells you himself. By the sounds of it, thats not going to happen anytime soon. Like you said, it makes no difference to you in any case, so don't worry about it.
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