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Don't post in this thread to say "gay gamers are like everyone else, why do they have a special thread?" It is something that has been posted numerous times, and this isn't the place for that discussion. For regular posters, don't quote the trolls. | ||
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Drekkonis
Canada286 Posts
On December 11 2012 12:32 drshdwpuppet wrote: nonsense, gotta sacrifice brain matter to have more room for sucking mondo sized cawks  ...... The fallacies in that statement brings me to tears >.> | ||
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QUEENT
Canada53 Posts
On December 11 2012 13:32 Drekkonis wrote: ...... The fallacies in that statement brings me to tears >.> Lots of phalluses can bring me to tears too. ;D | ||
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Lakarah
Canada29 Posts
If you are a heterosexual please repeat after me out loud (I suggest perhaps in an area that wont disturb many people). On a daily basis as a straight person... -I can be pretty sure that my roommate, hallmates and classmates will be comfortable with my sexual orientation. -If I pick up a magazine, watch TV, or play music, I can be certain my sexual orientation will be represented. -When I talk about my heterosexuality (such as in a joke or talking about my relationships), I will not be accused of pushing my sexual orientation onto others. -I do not have to fear that if my family or friends find out about my sexual orientation there will be economic, emotional, physical or psychological consequences. -I did not grow up with games that attack my sexual orientation. -I am not accused of being abused, warped or psychologically confused because of my sexual orientation. -I can go home from most meetings, classes, and conversations without feeling excluded, fearful, attacked, isolated, outnumbered, unheard, held at a distance, stereotyped, or feared because of my sexual orientation. -I am never asked to speak for everyone who is heterosexual. -I can be sure that my classes will require curricular materials that testify to the existence of people with my sexual orientation. -People don't ask why I made my choice of sexual orientation. -People don't ask why I made my choice to be public about my sexual orientation. -I do not have to fear revealing my sexual orientation to friends or family. It's assumed. -My sexual orientation was never associated with a closet. -People of my gender do not try to convince me to change my sexual orientation. -I don't have to defend my heterosexuality. -I can easily find a religious community that will not exclude me for being heterosexual. -I can count on finding a therapist or doctor willing and able to talk about my sexuality. -I am gauranteed to find sex education literature for couples of my sexual orientation. -Because of my sexual orientation, I do not need to worry that people will harass me. -I have no need to qualify my straight identity. -My masculinity/femininity is not challenged because of my sexual orientation. -I am not identified by my sexual orientation. -I can be sure that if I need legal or medical help my sexual orientation will not work against me. -If my day, week, or year is going badly, I need not ask of each negative episode or situation whether it has sexual orientation overtones. -Whether I rent or I go to a theatre, Blockbuster, an EFS or TOFS movie, I can be sure I will not have trouble finding my sexual orientation represented. -I can walk in public with my significant other and not have people double-take or stare. -I can choose to not think politically about my sexual orientation. -I do not have to worry about telling my roommate about my sexuality. It is assumed I am a heterosexual. -I can remain oblivious of the language and culture of LGBTQ folk without feeling in my culture any penalty for such oblivion. -I can go for months without being called straight. -I'm not grouped because of my sexual orientation. -My individual behaviour does not reflect on people who identify as heterosexual. -In everyday conversation, the language my friends and I use generally assumes my sexual orientation. For example, sex inappropriately referring to only heterosexual sex or family meaning heterosexual relationships with children. -People do not assume I am experienced in sex (or that I even have it!) merely because of my sexual orientation. -I can kiss a person of the opposite gender on without being watched and stared at. -Nobody calls me straight with maliciousness. -People can use terms that describe my sexual orientation and mean positive things (IE "straight as an arrow", "standing up straight" or "straightened out") instead of demeaning terms (IE "eww, that's gay" or being "queer") -I am not asked to think about why I am straight. -I can be open about my sexual orientation without worrying about my job. -I have the innate ability to speak about disease without being stigmatized because of my sexual orientation. This work is based on Peggy McIntosh's article on white privilege and was written by a number of straight-identified students at Earlham College. I do not claim any rights to this work and this list is NOT exhaustive. I know it's a massive block of text but if you go through this I hope it goes a long way into allowing some insight into the factors that may make it seem like gay people "feel the need to bring up the fact that they are gay". Thank you for reading thus far and I hope it has shed some light on the matter. | ||
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Mr. Black
United States470 Posts
On December 11 2012 15:24 Lakarah wrote: -When I talk about my heterosexuality (such as in a joke or talking about my relationships), I will not be accused of pushing my sexual orientation onto others. This is the key one with respect to this thread IMO. I'm hetero. The first time I heard dudes talking openly about having sex with other dudes, it made me uncomfortable--I probably thought, "Geez, can we get past the gay talk already--do you guys talk about anything else?" But then I realized that they weren't talking about "gay stuff." They were talking about "guy stuff:" getting laid--typical locker-room talk. If a gay guy is talking about how much he wants to do another gay guy, he's just talking about being horny or into someone. If he's talking about loving another guy, he's just talking about love. YOU (hetero person) are the one making it about "gay stuff." Not that y'all needed my perspective, I just ran into some of this IRL recently and it made me think of this thread. | ||
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Drekkonis
Canada286 Posts
On December 12 2012 00:19 Mr. Black wrote: This is the key one with respect to this thread IMO. I'm hetero. The first time I heard dudes talking openly about having sex with other dudes, it made me uncomfortable--I probably thought, "Geez, can we get past the gay talk already--do you guys talk about anything else?" But then I realized that they weren't talking about "gay stuff." They were talking about "guy stuff:" getting laid--typical locker-room talk. If a gay guy is talking about how much he wants to do another gay guy, he's just talking about being horny or into someone. If he's talking about loving another guy, he's just talking about love. YOU (hetero person) are the one making it about "gay stuff." Not that y'all needed my perspective, I just ran into some of this IRL recently and it made me think of this thread. I wish this was on reddit so I could upvote the crap out of this post. | ||
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Sprouter
United States1724 Posts
On December 11 2012 04:21 drshdwpuppet wrote: ! ohh?I would, I even know where I can get us a steep discount with an old sponsor of mine. could always use more league buddies as we play it quite often now.  | ||
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EnterpriseE1701E
37 Posts
On December 11 2012 04:21 drshdwpuppet wrote: I would, I even know where I can get us a steep discount with an old sponsor of mine. How much are we talking? | ||
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Lakarah
Canada29 Posts
On December 12 2012 00:19 Mr. Black wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 11 2012 15:24 Lakarah wrote: -When I talk about my heterosexuality (such as in a joke or talking about my relationships), I will not be accused of pushing my sexual orientation onto others. This is the key one with respect to this thread IMO. I'm hetero. The first time I heard dudes talking openly about having sex with other dudes, it made me uncomfortable--I probably thought, "Geez, can we get past the gay talk already--do you guys talk about anything else?" But then I realized that they weren't talking about "gay stuff." They were talking about "guy stuff:" getting laid--typical locker-room talk. If a gay guy is talking about how much he wants to do another gay guy, he's just talking about being horny or into someone. If he's talking about loving another guy, he's just talking about love. YOU (hetero person) are the one making it about "gay stuff." Not that y'all needed my perspective, I just ran into some of this IRL recently and it made me think of this thread. Thanks for the reply you hit the point dead on for answering the question, I was only intending to cover as wide a scope as possible to show how far this privilege spans. So I added all the other points. | ||
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drshdwpuppet
United States332 Posts
15% off 12 month rent on a 25 slot server would run 33.95 USD the bad part is that the discount is tied to the account of my broadcasting crew, which isnt a problem its just that I cant give out that TCAdmin password. | ||
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Silverfoxx
United States184 Posts
From the makers of scandinavia and the world, the tales of bisexual gang members and random slightly depressing thoughts. All in all a good read im happy to stumble upon. and in a way, this kinda hits close to home. | ||
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EnterpriseE1701E
37 Posts
On December 12 2012 05:20 Silverfoxx wrote: This comic From the makers of scandinavia and the world, the tales of bisexual gang members and random slightly depressing thoughts. All in all a good read im happy to stumble upon. and in a way, this kinda hits close to home. Does the illustrator of this series also illustrate the comics that have the nations of the world as individuals? | ||
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drshdwpuppet
United States332 Posts
On December 12 2012 05:51 EnterpriseE1701E wrote: Does the illustrator of this series also illustrate the comics that have the nations of the world as individuals? | ||
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Depetrify
978 Posts
On December 11 2012 07:44 frontliner2 wrote: Lol not all gays are flamboyant. I've met two very intelligent guys who happened to be gay, they didn't show it. I would have sworn they were hetero. Intellectual gays ftw Ya! I hate it how everyone thinks we're gonna be like everyone else thats gay.. like we're not all the same person.. jeez. | ||
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EnterpriseE1701E
37 Posts
In my defense, I had no idea that was what the comic was called. | ||
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Dvg
Netherlands1 Post
User was banned for this post. | ||
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Depetrify
978 Posts
On December 12 2012 06:54 Dvg wrote: queers User was banned for this post. Your signature is "Buttdicks" . Also, you joined in August and this is your first post.. wtf? | ||
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XerrolAvengerII
United States510 Posts
My intellectual question for the day, is why are Gay people so much nicer than straight people? Like, all the Gay people I've ever met have been more friendly and respectable than MOST of the straight people i meet. I imagine because most gay people experience prejudice some time in their life, and that allows them to better empathize and relate to people than most angry closed-off straight people. Anyway, good luck have fun. | ||
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drshdwpuppet
United States332 Posts
On December 12 2012 16:26 XerrolAvengerII wrote: I'm not gay, but I'm proud that a thread like this can exist on teamliquid... there are lots of places in the world where this kind of social discussion would be suppressed. My intellectual question for the day, is why are Gay people so much nicer than straight people? Like, all the Gay people I've ever met have been more friendly and respectable than MOST of the straight people i meet. I imagine because most gay people experience prejudice some time in their life, and that allows them to better empathize and relate to people than most angry closed-off straight people. Anyway, good luck have fun. mmm gurl have you met most gay guys. We are some of the cattiest, bitchiest, mean mothertruckers around these parts nah, I dont think we are any nicer than the average population, I just think we tend to be more tolerant because we know what discrimination is and feels like. | ||
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EnterpriseE1701E
37 Posts
On December 13 2012 01:46 drshdwpuppet wrote: mmm gurl have you met most gay guys. We are some of the cattiest, bitchiest, mean mothertruckers around these parts nah, I dont think we are any nicer than the average population, I just think we tend to be more tolerant because we know what discrimination is and feels like. Additionally, I think that, if such a perception exists, that we tend to be much more catty/bitchy, it exists because of a cognitive bias-- that people would ascribe our pettiness to us liking other men, and so see catty gay men everywhere, when in reality the distribution is the same. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On December 12 2012 16:26 XerrolAvengerII wrote: I'm not gay, but I'm proud that a thread like this can exist on teamliquid... there are lots of places in the world where this kind of social discussion would be suppressed. My intellectual question for the day, is why are Gay people so much nicer than straight people? Like, all the Gay people I've ever met have been more friendly and respectable than MOST of the straight people i meet. I imagine because most gay people experience prejudice some time in their life, and that allows them to better empathize and relate to people than most angry closed-off straight people. Anyway, good luck have fun. I'm sure there's a million different answers to that, but here's my take: In part, it's pretty much what you said. If you want to be respected for what you are, you're obviously going to be more respectful of others yourself. That, or you're a damn hypocrite. Being gay makes you think about stuff that others probably never considered, and a lot of it is about respect and tolerance. Another issue would be selection bias: The only gay people you know are openly gay (duh, I know), and they've been pretty nice. But what about all the jerks you met that simply never told you that they're gay? There's no way in knowing how many of those are out there, and my guess is that the number of closeted gays is still larger than the one that are open about it. | ||
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