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crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
June 25 2010 17:22 GMT
#41
On June 25 2010 13:24 hazelynut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 10:30 Snipinpanda wrote:
Do BW =D. Or at least do something interesting for a format, like
1v1 SC2
1v1 BW
2v2 SC2
1v1 BW
1v1 SC2


Problem with that is that it's terribly annoying for organization. Imagine hopping on and off those games and trying to coordinate. T_T

It's not like hopping on SC2 and trying to communicate is at this point any better. If anything, communicating in a BW + SC2 format is easier than communicating in an SC2-only format imo.
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TwinHits
Profile Joined June 2010
United States48 Posts
June 25 2010 17:30 GMT
#42
It's not like hopping on SC2 and trying to communicate is at this point any better. If anything, communicating in a BW + SC2 format is easier than communicating in an SC2-only format imo.


Pardon me, but how does that make sense? Admittedly I have no experience with the iccup interface, but how is switching between games make it easier to communicate than just staying in SC2?
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
June 25 2010 17:31 GMT
#43
Because communicating in SC2 is ... horrendous? I dunno about your team, but I never knew the name of any of my opponents in CSL. I did, however, know which channel to hop into.

So you do all the communication in BW (channels), then go play SC2.

Or you use IRC or instant messaging and it makes no difference.
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FiBsTeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States415 Posts
June 25 2010 17:39 GMT
#44
I voted for BW but honestly, if schools were dropping games because players were in <3 with the beta, I can only imagine what would happen if CSL tried to do another season of BW...

Unless a miracle happens and SC2 launch is pushed back!
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
June 25 2010 17:39 GMT
#45
I dont even like sc2, but csl should switch to attract more people and maybe sponsors.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8167 Posts
June 26 2010 02:27 GMT
#46
i dont even know if i want to coordinate again if it's SC2 (which it will be ).

well ok I still will, but I'll have way less enthusiasm now that it has switched to a worse game.
Free Palestine
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 26 2010 02:37 GMT
#47
PSHAWWWWWWWWWWWW
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4216 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-26 10:21:49
June 26 2010 10:21 GMT
#48
On June 26 2010 02:15 Purind wrote:
When you consider that during SC2 beta, people weren't playing BW and had no practice for CSL, I think SC2 is definitely gonna be the more popular choice. Since beta, I don't think there's been a single week of CSL where I didn't hear someone from the other team talk about how rusty they are at BW from playing SC2. I'd think you'd also have a much bigger pool of players, so those borderline teams can more easily field a consistent team, and the teams that just didn't have enough players (hi Algonquin) have a higher chance of grabbing an extra player or 2 for SC2 that would otherwise not play BW.

The way I see it, lots of people that aren't going to play BW will play SC2, and the majority of people that would have played BW will make the switch to SC2

I'm not in CSL this coming season so what I think probably has less weight than current participants, but the way the entire foreign scene is shifting so heavily toward SC2, I don't see BW being played nearly as much

*waves with Purind* - you guys shoulda switched into the nursing program which is run by both Algonquin and UO..... Hot nurses + amazing SC awaits

On a more serious note, I think we got lucky..... We didn't succumb to problems with the beta, and I was able to consistently get our better players in the lineups as needed, including our best line possible against Duke, which happened to be the only time we were able to field that lineup..... I doubt it would be possible to run the next CSL in anything but SC2.....
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4216 Posts
June 27 2010 08:30 GMT
#49
I just thought of something to prevent problems with teams submitting lineups. It may be crazy, but hear me out.....

(modified) WINNERS LEAGUE FORMAT!!!!!

Only submission is the first player for either team. That way, no teams have an excuse for not submitting a proper lineup, or requiring a substitute. It'll be a lot simpler to run.

This may be bat-shit crazy, but I've been up for almost 30 hours now, and I'm not thinking straight anyways..... But yea.....
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
June 27 2010 09:16 GMT
#50
On June 27 2010 17:30 Impervious wrote:
I just thought of something to prevent problems with teams submitting lineups. It may be crazy, but hear me out.....

(modified) WINNERS LEAGUE FORMAT!!!!!

Only submission is the first player for either team. That way, no teams have an excuse for not submitting a proper lineup, or requiring a substitute. It'll be a lot simpler to run.

This may be bat-shit crazy, but I've been up for almost 30 hours now, and I'm not thinking straight anyways..... But yea.....

People like Nony are going to all-kill every match
blabberrrrr
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4216 Posts
June 27 2010 10:05 GMT
#51
The current format leaves it up to the team with the best ace, plus at least 1 other player who can grab a win..... It's not that different..... Plus, if you know they have a really, really strong player, you can plan some sniping builds by weaker players to give yourself the best chance possible..... You only need it to work once, and you've got like 4 tries or so.....
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
June 27 2010 19:50 GMT
#52
it's also not fun if only one or two people on a team get to play...
blabberrrrr
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8167 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-27 19:55:54
June 27 2010 19:54 GMT
#53
On June 28 2010 04:50 blabber wrote:
it's also not fun if only one or two people on a team get to play...


yea exactly. everyone on my team would be so much less interested in it if it was winner's league format. it's really fun to have 1 matchup to work on all week and then show your results.

plus the skill gap between players in CSL is sooooo much bigger than in korean proleague most of the time. the skill difference ranges from D- to A- and pretty much just being 1 letter grade above another player means you will never ever ever ever lose to them.
Free Palestine
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 27 2010 19:55 GMT
#54
we will definitely not use winners league format because the skill differential in some teams makes it not fun for competitive play. the schools that have a top level player will have a ridiculously unfair advantage over casual players.

think if you're just a school trying to play for fun, and your entire team keeps getting all killed by one player, it's not going to be fun for those teams.
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Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
June 27 2010 20:00 GMT
#55
On June 26 2010 02:31 crate wrote:
Because communicating in SC2 is ... horrendous? I dunno about your team, but I never knew the name of any of my opponents in CSL. I did, however, know which channel to hop into.

So you do all the communication in BW (channels), then go play SC2.

Or you use IRC or instant messaging and it makes no difference.


ventrilo or mumble was the only way I could communicate during the beta. SC2 chat interface not worth the effort
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8167 Posts
June 27 2010 20:01 GMT
#56
oh man i forgot how lame the party system is in SC2. only hte host can invite people to the party right? fuuuuuck. not it
Free Palestine
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 27 2010 20:41 GMT
#57
hopefully Blizz decides to fix it before the season starts ^_^!
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Antimage
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1293 Posts
June 27 2010 23:18 GMT
#58
plz do sc2 next season, we have 0.5 sc1 players left... I'm sure other teams are in similar situations.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
June 28 2010 00:52 GMT
#59
I actually wouldn't mind seeing 2v2 return, seeing as how there's no Korean standard to follow anymore
blabberrrrr
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4216 Posts
June 28 2010 01:34 GMT
#60
Yea. Bad idea..... Sleep deprivation will do that to you though.....
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