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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 16:58:07
June 24 2010 06:54 GMT
#1
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Hey folks! Now that the dust has settled for the CSL, I thought it'd be appropriate to create the off-season thread. I will keep this thread updated with everything you need to know, news&articles, special summer events, and of course, Season 4 registration information (when the time comes).

I will also post a "Wanted" section sometime in the next month, as the CSL grows, we are looking for more dedicated people to help make our growth possible. Stay tuned, and keep checking for updates!


Articles
CSL: Re-Live Season 2 : Peter Zhang recaps CSL+ Season 2! Check it out
CSL: Re-Live Season 3 : Duran Parsi recaps the 3rd Season of the CSL!
CSL: Re-Live Duke vs UCSD : Mona Zhang recaps the CSL Grand Finals between two powerhouse teams.

Events
CSL Season 3 All-Stars : Check out this star studded event.



About the CSL: The Collegiate Starleague aims to provide a competitive and fun environment for all colleges and universities throughout North America to display their Starcraft(2) talents. We are the first and only collegiate league. The CSL is modeled after Korea's proleague and our end goal is to one day fill a stadium with fans watching our collegeiate e-athletes compete at the highest level, in the United States of course.

* Check out the CSL Website
* Become a fan on Facebook
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
June 24 2010 07:26 GMT
#2
where is the twitter account >_>

also, so embarrassed at real names D:
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 24 2010 07:36 GMT
#3
I'll get to that soon enough O_O!~
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
June 24 2010 08:20 GMT
#4
Has it been decided whether Season 4 will be BW, SC2, or some combination of both?
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
June 24 2010 11:04 GMT
#5
Shit, if CSL 4 is going to be SC2, I want to tear it up for UMD :p Hopefully they let me play as an alumnus
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4207 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 13:16:11
June 24 2010 13:14 GMT
#6
Don't forget us in Canada.

EDIT - is there going to be a "all-stars" tournament again?
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 24 2010 16:48 GMT
#7
Stay tuned
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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
June 24 2010 16:58 GMT
#8
How do I switch leadership of the team on the CSL website? Or do I just need to pm someone?
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
destruction
Profile Joined June 2010
5 Posts
June 24 2010 17:05 GMT
#9
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
June 24 2010 17:06 GMT
#10
I'll have to switch leadership as well.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
June 24 2010 17:44 GMT
#11
Shit, Mr. Riley and I were just wondering about this. Nice timing
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
June 24 2010 18:05 GMT
#12
I'm assuming that they'll do a wipe or reboot of the site like before... probably quite a few schools are going to go through a leadership transition.
AIV_Funnytoss and sGs.Funnytoss on iCCup
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
June 24 2010 18:56 GMT
#13
will you guys need Blizzard's approval and whatnot to run it?
blabberrrrr
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 24 2010 19:01 GMT
#14
On June 24 2010 20:04 Sadistx wrote:
Shit, if CSL 4 is going to be SC2, I want to tear it up for UMD :p Hopefully they let me play as an alumnus


We should have a DC nerd dinner team lol, since all of us go to different schools. I think that wouldn't be TOO much to ask for since none of the schools in MD/DC/NoVA have enough people for one team.
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Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
June 24 2010 19:40 GMT
#15
I'll prob reorganize a University of Central Florida team for sc2 if I can get someone to help manage it (since I may not always be able to make games due to the slew of sc2 tournaments that are always happening) and there is in fact a sc2 league for CSL.
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
zanderfever.TV
Profile Joined March 2010
United States362 Posts
June 24 2010 19:51 GMT
#16
Nice! I'm heading into college next year so I definitely want in on this
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
June 24 2010 22:06 GMT
#17
On June 25 2010 03:56 blabber wrote:
will you guys need Blizzard's approval and whatnot to run it?

Blizzard will probably approve. They were generous enough to give out 12 SC2 Beta Keys to the CSL finalists in CSL Season 2.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
TwinHits
Profile Joined June 2010
United States48 Posts
June 24 2010 22:07 GMT
#18
Is it for certain the that CSL will be going Starcraft II for the next season? We're trying to set up a George Washington University team for next season, but we're more interested in SC2 than BW.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 25 2010 01:19 GMT
#19
Wtf, I thought I was the only person at GWU on TeamLiquid lol

I'm in, to the 1 post person above ^
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Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 01:27:01
June 25 2010 01:26 GMT
#20
Thank goodness I'll be going to a bigger university for grad school next year so I'll have a real team to play on! I'll do my best to make them proud.

Also curious whether it will be BW or SC2 next season, or perhaps a bit of both?
Snipinpanda
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1227 Posts
June 25 2010 01:30 GMT
#21
Do BW =D. Or at least do something interesting for a format, like
1v1 SC2
1v1 BW
2v2 SC2
1v1 BW
1v1 SC2
reprise
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada316 Posts
June 25 2010 01:50 GMT
#22
Would love to see SC2 for season 4 (Also so I could rally a team for my school).
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
June 25 2010 01:53 GMT
#23
it makes no sense to do BW
blabberrrrr
Snipinpanda
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1227 Posts
June 25 2010 02:15 GMT
#24
Why not? I think BW is still the more enjoyable game, whether you're playing or watching.
=/
TwinHits
Profile Joined June 2010
United States48 Posts
June 25 2010 02:16 GMT
#25
I'm sure they would love to do both, but I doubt that they have the staff to do it. My bets on SC2 but confirmation from Xeris or Hazelynut would be nice for team planning.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 25 2010 02:34 GMT
#26
Again... stay tuned , soon we'll be announcing stuff.
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
June 25 2010 03:10 GMT
#27
as awesome as BW is... the reality is that the majority of people don't care about it anymore now that SC2 will be out. It's going to be hard for schools to get a consistent lineup going for BW when everyone's playing SC2
blabberrrrr
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
June 25 2010 03:12 GMT
#28
woooo maybe I'll actually do something for CSL this year haha

aside from swinging the banhammer at some adbots, lol
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
June 25 2010 04:15 GMT
#29
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hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2195 Posts
June 25 2010 04:23 GMT
#30
On June 25 2010 03:56 blabber wrote:
will you guys need Blizzard's approval and whatnot to run it?


Technically, Blizzard can only sign agreements with legal entities, but I think TL does it anyway x_x at some point the eSports guy was like, "wait, TL isn't a company?" Last season we technically required confirmation, but they don't seem to care much.
Zerg | life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery | www.cstarleague.com <3
hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2195 Posts
June 25 2010 04:24 GMT
#31
On June 25 2010 10:30 Snipinpanda wrote:
Do BW =D. Or at least do something interesting for a format, like
1v1 SC2
1v1 BW
2v2 SC2
1v1 BW
1v1 SC2


Problem with that is that it's terribly annoying for organization. Imagine hopping on and off those games and trying to coordinate. T_T
Zerg | life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery | www.cstarleague.com <3
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8122 Posts
June 25 2010 04:27 GMT
#32
On June 25 2010 13:24 hazelynut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 10:30 Snipinpanda wrote:
Do BW =D. Or at least do something interesting for a format, like
1v1 SC2
1v1 BW
2v2 SC2
1v1 BW
1v1 SC2


Problem with that is that it's terribly annoying for organization. Imagine hopping on and off those games and trying to coordinate. T_T


we'll have to do a compromise.

all games will be in SC2 but you can only use units from SC1 and you cant use automine or mbs, and only select 12 units at a time.
Free Palestine
Snipinpanda
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1227 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 04:33:41
June 25 2010 04:33 GMT
#33
On June 25 2010 12:10 blabber wrote:
as awesome as BW is... the reality is that the majority of people don't care about it anymore now that SC2 will be out. It's going to be hard for schools to get a consistent lineup going for BW when everyone's playing SC2


Haha, that's opposite of what we're having. A good chunk of players want it to stay BW. Granted, we'll probably get a swarm of players if it's SC2, and I kinda don't want to deal with that as a coordinator >>
[Agony]x90
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States853 Posts
June 25 2010 06:29 GMT
#34
Poll: BW or SC2?

SC2 (22)
 
50%

BW (14)
 
32%

A combination of both (8)
 
18%

44 total votes

Your vote: BW or SC2?

(Vote): SC2
(Vote): BW
(Vote): A combination of both



Here we go. Took the liberty of making a poll Whether you're a student who's playing, or just someone who enjoys following the CSL scene, give your opinion!
JF dodger since 2009
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
June 25 2010 06:36 GMT
#35
blahhh im DONE with BW hahah. suck too much at that game ><
[ReD]NaDa and fnaticMSI.SEn fighting~! ::POlar @ UC Irvine::
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 25 2010 08:45 GMT
#36
I'm not the biggest fan of a combo of alternating games for one match, just because it'd be difficult to set up who does what and stuff and going back n forth. I think with the popularity of SC2 coming in, so many people will play it exclusively it'll be near impossible to find anyone who wants to even go back to BW, and to the BW enthusiasts, maybe a smaller league can be formed too where people can play those also, I don't know how to set it up, it is a difficult situation, but I know I'm in it for SC2
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TwinHits
Profile Joined June 2010
United States48 Posts
June 25 2010 14:12 GMT
#37
Thanks Hazelynut and Xeris for the info, I can't wait for the announcements!
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 25 2010 16:40 GMT
#38
I will say that we will definitely not be running dual leagues (SC and SC2) and we won't combine both games in the same league :p
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
June 25 2010 17:15 GMT
#39
When you consider that during SC2 beta, people weren't playing BW and had no practice for CSL, I think SC2 is definitely gonna be the more popular choice. Since beta, I don't think there's been a single week of CSL where I didn't hear someone from the other team talk about how rusty they are at BW from playing SC2. I'd think you'd also have a much bigger pool of players, so those borderline teams can more easily field a consistent team, and the teams that just didn't have enough players (hi Algonquin) have a higher chance of grabbing an extra player or 2 for SC2 that would otherwise not play BW.

The way I see it, lots of people that aren't going to play BW will play SC2, and the majority of people that would have played BW will make the switch to SC2

I'm not in CSL this coming season so what I think probably has less weight than current participants, but the way the entire foreign scene is shifting so heavily toward SC2, I don't see BW being played nearly as much
Trucy Wright is hot
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
June 25 2010 17:21 GMT
#40
On June 26 2010 01:40 Xeris wrote:
I will say that we will definitely not be running dual leagues (SC and SC2) and we won't combine both games in the same league :p


This clearly means SC2 then because it won't be much of a league if it's BW only :p
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
June 25 2010 17:22 GMT
#41
On June 25 2010 13:24 hazelynut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 10:30 Snipinpanda wrote:
Do BW =D. Or at least do something interesting for a format, like
1v1 SC2
1v1 BW
2v2 SC2
1v1 BW
1v1 SC2


Problem with that is that it's terribly annoying for organization. Imagine hopping on and off those games and trying to coordinate. T_T

It's not like hopping on SC2 and trying to communicate is at this point any better. If anything, communicating in a BW + SC2 format is easier than communicating in an SC2-only format imo.
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TwinHits
Profile Joined June 2010
United States48 Posts
June 25 2010 17:30 GMT
#42
It's not like hopping on SC2 and trying to communicate is at this point any better. If anything, communicating in a BW + SC2 format is easier than communicating in an SC2-only format imo.


Pardon me, but how does that make sense? Admittedly I have no experience with the iccup interface, but how is switching between games make it easier to communicate than just staying in SC2?
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
June 25 2010 17:31 GMT
#43
Because communicating in SC2 is ... horrendous? I dunno about your team, but I never knew the name of any of my opponents in CSL. I did, however, know which channel to hop into.

So you do all the communication in BW (channels), then go play SC2.

Or you use IRC or instant messaging and it makes no difference.
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FiBsTeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States415 Posts
June 25 2010 17:39 GMT
#44
I voted for BW but honestly, if schools were dropping games because players were in <3 with the beta, I can only imagine what would happen if CSL tried to do another season of BW...

Unless a miracle happens and SC2 launch is pushed back!
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
June 25 2010 17:39 GMT
#45
I dont even like sc2, but csl should switch to attract more people and maybe sponsors.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8122 Posts
June 26 2010 02:27 GMT
#46
i dont even know if i want to coordinate again if it's SC2 (which it will be ).

well ok I still will, but I'll have way less enthusiasm now that it has switched to a worse game.
Free Palestine
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 26 2010 02:37 GMT
#47
PSHAWWWWWWWWWWWW
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4207 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-26 10:21:49
June 26 2010 10:21 GMT
#48
On June 26 2010 02:15 Purind wrote:
When you consider that during SC2 beta, people weren't playing BW and had no practice for CSL, I think SC2 is definitely gonna be the more popular choice. Since beta, I don't think there's been a single week of CSL where I didn't hear someone from the other team talk about how rusty they are at BW from playing SC2. I'd think you'd also have a much bigger pool of players, so those borderline teams can more easily field a consistent team, and the teams that just didn't have enough players (hi Algonquin) have a higher chance of grabbing an extra player or 2 for SC2 that would otherwise not play BW.

The way I see it, lots of people that aren't going to play BW will play SC2, and the majority of people that would have played BW will make the switch to SC2

I'm not in CSL this coming season so what I think probably has less weight than current participants, but the way the entire foreign scene is shifting so heavily toward SC2, I don't see BW being played nearly as much

*waves with Purind* - you guys shoulda switched into the nursing program which is run by both Algonquin and UO..... Hot nurses + amazing SC awaits

On a more serious note, I think we got lucky..... We didn't succumb to problems with the beta, and I was able to consistently get our better players in the lineups as needed, including our best line possible against Duke, which happened to be the only time we were able to field that lineup..... I doubt it would be possible to run the next CSL in anything but SC2.....
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4207 Posts
June 27 2010 08:30 GMT
#49
I just thought of something to prevent problems with teams submitting lineups. It may be crazy, but hear me out.....

(modified) WINNERS LEAGUE FORMAT!!!!!

Only submission is the first player for either team. That way, no teams have an excuse for not submitting a proper lineup, or requiring a substitute. It'll be a lot simpler to run.

This may be bat-shit crazy, but I've been up for almost 30 hours now, and I'm not thinking straight anyways..... But yea.....
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
June 27 2010 09:16 GMT
#50
On June 27 2010 17:30 Impervious wrote:
I just thought of something to prevent problems with teams submitting lineups. It may be crazy, but hear me out.....

(modified) WINNERS LEAGUE FORMAT!!!!!

Only submission is the first player for either team. That way, no teams have an excuse for not submitting a proper lineup, or requiring a substitute. It'll be a lot simpler to run.

This may be bat-shit crazy, but I've been up for almost 30 hours now, and I'm not thinking straight anyways..... But yea.....

People like Nony are going to all-kill every match
blabberrrrr
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4207 Posts
June 27 2010 10:05 GMT
#51
The current format leaves it up to the team with the best ace, plus at least 1 other player who can grab a win..... It's not that different..... Plus, if you know they have a really, really strong player, you can plan some sniping builds by weaker players to give yourself the best chance possible..... You only need it to work once, and you've got like 4 tries or so.....
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
June 27 2010 19:50 GMT
#52
it's also not fun if only one or two people on a team get to play...
blabberrrrr
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8122 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-27 19:55:54
June 27 2010 19:54 GMT
#53
On June 28 2010 04:50 blabber wrote:
it's also not fun if only one or two people on a team get to play...


yea exactly. everyone on my team would be so much less interested in it if it was winner's league format. it's really fun to have 1 matchup to work on all week and then show your results.

plus the skill gap between players in CSL is sooooo much bigger than in korean proleague most of the time. the skill difference ranges from D- to A- and pretty much just being 1 letter grade above another player means you will never ever ever ever lose to them.
Free Palestine
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 27 2010 19:55 GMT
#54
we will definitely not use winners league format because the skill differential in some teams makes it not fun for competitive play. the schools that have a top level player will have a ridiculously unfair advantage over casual players.

think if you're just a school trying to play for fun, and your entire team keeps getting all killed by one player, it's not going to be fun for those teams.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
June 27 2010 20:00 GMT
#55
On June 26 2010 02:31 crate wrote:
Because communicating in SC2 is ... horrendous? I dunno about your team, but I never knew the name of any of my opponents in CSL. I did, however, know which channel to hop into.

So you do all the communication in BW (channels), then go play SC2.

Or you use IRC or instant messaging and it makes no difference.


ventrilo or mumble was the only way I could communicate during the beta. SC2 chat interface not worth the effort
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8122 Posts
June 27 2010 20:01 GMT
#56
oh man i forgot how lame the party system is in SC2. only hte host can invite people to the party right? fuuuuuck. not it
Free Palestine
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 27 2010 20:41 GMT
#57
hopefully Blizz decides to fix it before the season starts ^_^!
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Antimage
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1293 Posts
June 27 2010 23:18 GMT
#58
plz do sc2 next season, we have 0.5 sc1 players left... I'm sure other teams are in similar situations.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
June 28 2010 00:52 GMT
#59
I actually wouldn't mind seeing 2v2 return, seeing as how there's no Korean standard to follow anymore
blabberrrrr
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4207 Posts
June 28 2010 01:34 GMT
#60
Yea. Bad idea..... Sleep deprivation will do that to you though.....
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ShoeFactory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States186 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-28 01:45:03
June 28 2010 01:44 GMT
#61
If CSL switches to SC2, I'd be excited to get in touch with the UCI team and play.

BW is really dwindling, and you can expect to see a huge surge in playership for SC2 and thus CSL.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-28 17:21:22
June 28 2010 17:20 GMT
#62
Check out my Season 3 Wrap Up!

(also updated the OP)

PS...

Season 3 All Star match will be announced soon :D!

PPS...

become a fan on facebook if you haven't already!
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 28 2010 17:47 GMT
#63
Wait, why aren't we releasing information? =p. It's not a big deal, is it?
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
June 28 2010 18:12 GMT
#64
nice job durandal
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OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
June 28 2010 18:22 GMT
#65
dukies are back for more boyz
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
June 28 2010 18:24 GMT
#66
On June 26 2010 02:22 crate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 13:24 hazelynut wrote:
On June 25 2010 10:30 Snipinpanda wrote:
Do BW =D. Or at least do something interesting for a format, like
1v1 SC2
1v1 BW
2v2 SC2
1v1 BW
1v1 SC2


Problem with that is that it's terribly annoying for organization. Imagine hopping on and off those games and trying to coordinate. T_T

It's not like hopping on SC2 and trying to communicate is at this point any better. If anything, communicating in a BW + SC2 format is easier than communicating in an SC2-only format imo.

also, this is a very good idea and not hard to organize once we get used to it. coordinating games on sc2 is such a headache that putting in a couple bw games makes things easier lol

let's please do this
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 28 2010 18:26 GMT
#67
On June 29 2010 02:47 DarthThienAn wrote:
Wait, why aren't we releasing information? =p. It's not a big deal, is it?


releasing what info? oo
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hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2195 Posts
June 28 2010 18:54 GMT
#68
(2:47:30 PM) hazely.kins: yo is there a reason we're keeping this sc2/bw thing
(2:47:31 PM) hazely.kins: under wraps
(2:47:38 PM) Duran Parsi: no lol
(2:47:42 PM) Duran Parsi: i mean its pretty obvious
(2:49:09 PM) hazely.kins: yea ahahaha
(2:49:25 PM) Duran Parsi: "NOPE SCREW YOU ALL WE STAY BW FOREVER"!!
(2:49:26 PM) Duran Parsi: :p
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 28 2010 19:24 GMT
#69
Yeah, for all of you who are waiting for the confirmation, we're staying with BroodWar for another season at least.

Reason is 1) July 27 gives people ~2 months, no more to play the game. And that's assuming we all rush to the local Gamestop/BestBuy/etc. on the release date (assuming the release date isn't moved).
2) as of now, we don't think Battle.net 2.0 will be up to snuff for what we want/need for competitive play.
3) even some of those who prefer SC2 have to admit, there will never be a game quite like BroodWar.
4) More people have expressed interest in staying bw rather than switching to SC2. By this I mean emails, old coordinators, etc.

While we're not going to stay "BW FOREVER!!", we will have to give ourselves time to judge Battle.net 2.0 after it comes out first. In the Spring we'll reassess the situation and hopefully be able to make the switch.


Don't be mad ^^.
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 28 2010 20:34 GMT
#70
Reading that conversation it would seem that the 'obvious' answer was switching to SC2

But if you're staying BW then that I think will be quite a serious blow to you guys for garnering any sponsorship or anything that might have been pursued. I don't know where you guys gathered your data from but I would think over 50% of people would want to switch over to SC2 and I can almost guarantee that moving on to SC2 will increase the amount of interest at least 2-3x. Seeing as how much membership on TL has increased since February 19th.

It is definitely the CSL's decision to make and not just the players, but I think it would be a huge mistake to stay on BW. You are literlaly losing hundreds of players this way.
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
June 28 2010 20:38 GMT
#71
I'm pretty sure he's joking... right?
blabberrrrr
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 28 2010 20:42 GMT
#72
You guys suck at picking up sarcasm, god damn D:

haha
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 28 2010 20:47 GMT
#73
D:

lol t.t.


On June 29 2010 05:38 blabber wrote:
I'm pretty sure he's joking... right?
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8122 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-28 21:00:05
June 28 2010 20:59 GMT
#74
edit - really bad sarcasm from darth LOL

cant wait till season 10 of CSL when we switch back to BW after the SC2 fad dies.
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LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
June 28 2010 21:04 GMT
#75
are you going to let us small schools in 1 area form a team this time around?
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8122 Posts
June 28 2010 21:38 GMT
#76
oh crap i just realized i'll be graduated before sc2 dies out and CSL goes back to BW
Free Palestine
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
June 28 2010 23:26 GMT
#77
Damnit, I was actually hoping you guys would be sticking with BW T.T
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 28 2010 23:55 GMT
#78
I'd run one if I wasn't in danger of dropping out of school ^^.
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4207 Posts
June 29 2010 00:17 GMT
#79
SC2 will be abitch to coordinate.....
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 29 2010 17:50 GMT
#80
don't worry about it :p
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8122 Posts
June 29 2010 19:22 GMT
#81
i propose that all CSL admins be in charge of adding every player to their friend's list and hosting the games. otherwise no one is going to want to play.
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TwinHits
Profile Joined June 2010
United States48 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 19:34:37
June 29 2010 19:31 GMT
#82
SC2 may not be optimal for this setup, especially with low staff time, but it's certainly possible. The implementation of chat channels that Blizzard is implementing after release will definitely make it easier. I have faith in the CSL staff!
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 29 2010 19:42 GMT
#83
When have I led you guys astray?! HMMM! :p
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 29 2010 19:50 GMT
#84
You guys complain too much, its not that hard to do. You add the two people to your list, which can be submitted to the admins during signups. Then those 2 guys can add guildies to watch if it is needed. Yeah we don't have chatrooms but setting up 3-5 1v1's is REALLY not hard.
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fellcrow
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States288 Posts
June 29 2010 19:50 GMT
#85
Well, a lot of people have ventrilo servers to meet on and have discussions on this and get the kinks out, add friends for matches etc. Skype or teamspeak etc. I don't see a problem with SC2 without chat channels even. I love chat channels, but they aren't a necessity necessarily.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 29 2010 20:29 GMT
#86
On June 30 2010 04:42 Xeris wrote:
When have I led you guys astray?! HMMM! :p


Always! keke.


On June 30 2010 04:50 ZlaSHeR wrote:
You guys complain too much, its not that hard to do. You add the two people to your list, which can be submitted to the admins during signups. Then those 2 guys can add guildies to watch if it is needed. Yeah we don't have chatrooms but setting up 3-5 1v1's is REALLY not hard.


What's the limit for a fl in Bnet 2? Never used it lol.

On June 30 2010 04:50 fellcrow wrote:
Well, a lot of people have ventrilo servers to meet on and have discussions on this and get the kinks out, add friends for matches etc. Skype or teamspeak etc. I don't see a problem with SC2 without chat channels even. I love chat channels, but they aren't a necessity necessarily.


Skype could work to an extent... most division admins would have multiple matches simultaneously though if we have anything like last season.

@the winner's league suggestion - it's just not appropriate for our skill level. The current SPL format (lineups revealed after each set) is more likely, if we're going to change format at all.
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
June 29 2010 20:31 GMT
#87
I would imagine match fixing isn't a problem in CSL
blabberrrrr
TwinHits
Profile Joined June 2010
United States48 Posts
June 29 2010 21:05 GMT
#88
If there's a limit, it's pretty high. I can't find any concrete information about it on the internet. I thought maybe it might be comparable to the WoW friends list limit, but I can't find any info on that either.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 29 2010 21:18 GMT
#89
On June 30 2010 05:31 blabber wrote:
I would imagine match fixing isn't a problem in CSL


match fixing? ...Savior style?
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
June 29 2010 21:22 GMT
#90
match fixing is why Proleague started using the new format I believe
blabberrrrr
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 29 2010 21:54 GMT
#91
On June 30 2010 06:22 blabber wrote:
match fixing is why Proleague started using the new format I believe


oh... I didn't know that o_o.
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 22:00:21
June 29 2010 21:59 GMT
#92
On June 30 2010 05:29 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2010 04:42 Xeris wrote:
When have I led you guys astray?! HMMM! :p


Always! keke.


Show nested quote +
On June 30 2010 04:50 ZlaSHeR wrote:
You guys complain too much, its not that hard to do. You add the two people to your list, which can be submitted to the admins during signups. Then those 2 guys can add guildies to watch if it is needed. Yeah we don't have chatrooms but setting up 3-5 1v1's is REALLY not hard.


What's the limit for a fl in Bnet 2? Never used it lol.

Show nested quote +
On June 30 2010 04:50 fellcrow wrote:
Well, a lot of people have ventrilo servers to meet on and have discussions on this and get the kinks out, add friends for matches etc. Skype or teamspeak etc. I don't see a problem with SC2 without chat channels even. I love chat channels, but they aren't a necessity necessarily.


Skype could work to an extent... most division admins would have multiple matches simultaneously though if we have anything like last season.

@the winner's league suggestion - it's just not appropriate for our skill level. The current SPL format (lineups revealed after each set) is more likely, if we're going to change format at all.


not sure what an fl is, but if your'e asking how many you can spectate in a room, I think you can have like 2 players and at least 10 more spectators on top of that, if not its a lot more. But you can easily fit the two players, 3-4 teammates per team, and even two CSL referees if need be.

edit: oh duh...friends list. Theres no limit as far as I know of, but its not like you need to have EVERY csl participant on the admins list, just the ones during the week, I add and remove people regularly, but I know that in beta there were a few guys who had 50+ friends on at a time (djwheat)
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 29 2010 22:24 GMT
#93
Don't worry about it guys !
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QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
June 29 2010 22:31 GMT
#94
On June 30 2010 05:31 blabber wrote:
I would imagine match fixing isn't a problem in CSL


Alright, it's time to come clean, Cornell only lost cuz we got paid to do so
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 29 2010 22:33 GMT
#95
On June 30 2010 06:59 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2010 05:29 DarthThienAn wrote:
On June 30 2010 04:42 Xeris wrote:
When have I led you guys astray?! HMMM! :p


Always! keke.


On June 30 2010 04:50 ZlaSHeR wrote:
You guys complain too much, its not that hard to do. You add the two people to your list, which can be submitted to the admins during signups. Then those 2 guys can add guildies to watch if it is needed. Yeah we don't have chatrooms but setting up 3-5 1v1's is REALLY not hard.


What's the limit for a fl in Bnet 2? Never used it lol.

On June 30 2010 04:50 fellcrow wrote:
Well, a lot of people have ventrilo servers to meet on and have discussions on this and get the kinks out, add friends for matches etc. Skype or teamspeak etc. I don't see a problem with SC2 without chat channels even. I love chat channels, but they aren't a necessity necessarily.


Skype could work to an extent... most division admins would have multiple matches simultaneously though if we have anything like last season.

@the winner's league suggestion - it's just not appropriate for our skill level. The current SPL format (lineups revealed after each set) is more likely, if we're going to change format at all.


not sure what an fl is, but if your'e asking how many you can spectate in a room, I think you can have like 2 players and at least 10 more spectators on top of that, if not its a lot more. But you can easily fit the two players, 3-4 teammates per team, and even two CSL referees if need be.

edit: oh duh...friends list. Theres no limit as far as I know of, but its not like you need to have EVERY csl participant on the admins list, just the ones during the week, I add and remove people regularly, but I know that in beta there were a few guys who had 50+ friends on at a time (djwheat)


I ask because I want to know how high I can raise my self-esteem through CSL.
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 29 2010 22:40 GMT
#96
Your self esteem can be over 9000 if you want it to be
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 30 2010 01:27 GMT
#97
Mines already over 9000 WOOOOO
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 03 2010 19:25 GMT
#98
If anybody is interested in helping the CSL - we are looking for a web designer ! We're looking to re-design the website to offer a lot more content, but we need someone who can design in order to do this. We've already got a great programmer, just need a new design!

If you are at all interested in helping the CSL grow and want to be a part of the revolution, send me a pm!

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T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
July 03 2010 20:45 GMT
#99
Are you guys concerned about people cheating using livestreams? People can use 2 computers and watch the livestream on another computer, or they could have a teammate tip then off during the match using iccup chat. It's completely undetectable too.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 03 2010 20:52 GMT
#100
Not really, I don't think it has really been an issue, nobody has really been suspected even.. we'll see though.
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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
July 03 2010 21:54 GMT
#101
teammates observe each of the matches anyway, so they could cheat there too.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 03 2010 22:23 GMT
#102
On July 04 2010 05:45 T.O.P. wrote:
Are you guys concerned about people cheating using livestreams? People can use 2 computers and watch the livestream on another computer, or they could have a teammate tip then off during the match using iccup chat. It's completely undetectable too.


Teams concerned about cheating can always request for no observers in the game + cast replays only. It's happened a few times, and typically, the only 'forced' livestreamed matches are the playoffs.
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Snipinpanda
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1227 Posts
July 03 2010 23:52 GMT
#103
If you really wanted to cheat in the CSL, it's honestly not that hard.

But seriously, why would you cheat? That's so silly -_-"
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8122 Posts
July 03 2010 23:58 GMT
#104
i dont get why anyone would cheat when there's literally nothing on the line at all lol
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 04 2010 16:25 GMT
#105
Check out Mona Zhang's recap of the S3 Finals, Duke vs UCSD: http://www.cstarleague.com/node/76

.

Also, CSL is looking for a web designer! PM me, send me an email, or contact me on facebook if you know anyone interested in helping!
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 05 2010 07:45 GMT
#106
On July 04 2010 08:58 Ideas wrote:
i dont get why anyone would cheat when there's literally nothing on the line at all lol


pride.

!
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 05 2010 20:24 GMT
#107
Pride > all !! O_O :
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 06 2010 17:01 GMT
#108
Wanna see more Brood War? The CSL All Star game should whet some appetites. Casted by the super-awesome, Diggity ! :D

HERE!
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 07 2010 21:23 GMT
#109
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=134611

All Stars thread ! Discuss!
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 06:05:20
August 06 2010 06:04 GMT
#110
[image loading]

EZ PZ !

In all seriousness. Big changes are coming in the next 2-3 weeks.
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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
August 06 2010 15:16 GMT
#111
damn need to look for more members now....
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
August 06 2010 19:48 GMT
#112
On August 07 2010 00:16 AoN.DimSum wrote:
damn need to look for more members now....


it's sc2, you shouldnt have any problem with that =P
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[Agony]x90
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States853 Posts
August 06 2010 19:53 GMT
#113
I thought you said you were gonna quitdimsum. Do it for the lifting!
JF dodger since 2009
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 21:53:22
August 06 2010 20:09 GMT
#114
On August 07 2010 04:53 [Agony]x90 wrote:
I thought you said you were gonna quitdimsum. Do it for the lifting!


Quit, like you quit, right? =P

Edit: For those that care

http://www.cstarleague.com/node/79
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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
August 06 2010 23:00 GMT
#115
I am quitting I just want to get enough members to start off the semester fine.

darth can you put Rutgers looking for coordinator too?

agony btw i smashed my hand on my knee when I missed a clean. its been a month and I still cant snatch or clean and jerk heavy. garden state games is next week too!
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 07 2010 00:35 GMT
#116
awww, cant wait for the news.
UW HWAITINGGG!!!!!
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
August 07 2010 01:10 GMT
#117
On August 07 2010 08:00 AoN.DimSum wrote:
I am quitting I just want to get enough members to start off the semester fine.

darth can you put Rutgers looking for coordinator too?

agony btw i smashed my hand on my knee when I missed a clean. its been a month and I still cant snatch or clean and jerk heavy. garden state games is next week too!


don't quit, asshole. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
August 08 2010 09:36 GMT
#118
I'm really excited for this season!!! We need to add foreign schools before I graduate again
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
August 08 2010 09:47 GMT
#119
Allow mercenaries please Just try to control it so that people at least are mercenaries for schools they live near by or something
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 08 2010 10:40 GMT
#120
On August 08 2010 18:47 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Allow mercenaries please Just try to control it so that people at least are mercenaries for schools they live near by or something

lol, thats gona be huge! UW gona request HuK =)... sm U in AZN gona pull full team EG up.. =)
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8122 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 20:54:55
August 08 2010 20:54 GMT
#121
On August 06 2010 15:04 Xeris wrote:
[image loading]

EZ PZ !

In all seriousness. Big changes are coming in the next 2-3 weeks.


i find this banner highly offensive and depressing.
Free Palestine
[Agony]x90
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States853 Posts
August 08 2010 21:00 GMT
#122
I feel your pain dimsum. I got an ulcer and haven't been able to workout without feeling I'm gonna pass out. Alsodarth, I think hazely is gonna want me for 1v1 duty
JF dodger since 2009
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
August 09 2010 00:55 GMT
#123
On August 09 2010 06:00 [Agony]x90 wrote:
I feel your pain dimsum. I got an ulcer and haven't been able to workout without feeling I'm gonna pass out. Alsodarth, I think hazely is gonna want me for 1v1 duty


I know, I was saying that you quit BW to hop on SC2 lol xP.

You two aren't 2v2ing? lol
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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
August 09 2010 02:46 GMT
#124
dont bother playing, rutgers > princeton even without a team :/
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
August 09 2010 08:47 GMT
#125
On August 09 2010 11:46 AoN.DimSum wrote:
dont bother playing, rutgers > princeton even without a team :/


Except when Nexus gets beat by two of our players

It's okay though. You're still better than me >_>
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yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
August 09 2010 13:47 GMT
#126
We'd love to gather some feedback! We're looking for your suggestions, ideas, or bug reports - head over to http://www.cstarleague.com/feedback and help us improve for next season
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