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On May 05 2010 18:40 Stormer wrote:
Just wondering how hard is it to get into gymnastic strength training? I'm gonna be doing Starting Strength the entire summer and from october onward I'm gonna be moving quite a lot so gym membership is out of the question. I got the Gymnastic Bodies book from coach Sommer (haven't read it yet). As a beginner am I going to need some special equipment to do it?
Here's some on programming:
http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/03/the-fundamentals-of-bodyweight-strength-training
Ummm, the only thing I would say you NEED is rings. You can get some parallettes if you need to but you can build those (out of PVC).
I would buy a set of rings. There's multiple vendors online that are reliable. If you need me to list you some I can.
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Ok guys so from what I've understood of your conversation potatoes and whole grain pasta/rice is allowed since they dissolve over a much larger period of time and with that gives you a smoother energy curve? (you'd be suprised but I actully understand stuff like that a little bit)
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On May 05 2010 22:22 Julmust wrote:
Ok guys so from what I've understood of your conversation potatoes and whole grain pasta/rice is allowed since they dissolve over a much larger period of time and with that gives you a smoother energy curve? (you'd be suprised but I actully understand stuff like that a little bit)
Yes, that would be correct 
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On May 05 2010 22:20 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2010 18:40 Stormer wrote:
Just wondering how hard is it to get into gymnastic strength training? I'm gonna be doing Starting Strength the entire summer and from october onward I'm gonna be moving quite a lot so gym membership is out of the question. I got the Gymnastic Bodies book from coach Sommer (haven't read it yet). As a beginner am I going to need some special equipment to do it? Here's some on programming: http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/03/the-fundamentals-of-bodyweight-strength-trainingUmmm, the only thing I would say you NEED is rings. You can get some parallettes if you need to but you can build those (out of PVC). I would buy a set of rings. There's multiple vendors online that are reliable. If you need me to list you some I can.
Thanks Eshlow, I saw that you have ones listed on your site but theyre pretty expensive (100$), any chance a nice round welded chain link could do or is it a matter of straps too?
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On May 05 2010 22:22 Julmust wrote:
Ok guys so from what I've understood of your conversation potatoes and whole grain pasta/rice is allowed since they dissolve over a much larger period of time and with that gives you a smoother energy curve? (you'd be suprised but I actully understand stuff like that a little bit)
Precisely
After you exercise though, feel free to get some fast-acting carbs like bananas into your system!
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On May 05 2010 22:22 Julmust wrote:
Ok guys so from what I've understood of your conversation potatoes and whole grain pasta/rice is allowed since they dissolve over a much larger period of time and with that gives you a smoother energy curve? (you'd be suprised but I actully understand stuff like that a little bit)
Get rid of that stuff and replace it with fruits and vegetables.
Fruits for fast acting stuff. Vegetables for starches (slower acting).
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On May 06 2010 00:48 Stormer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2010 22:20 eshlow wrote:On May 05 2010 18:40 Stormer wrote:
Just wondering how hard is it to get into gymnastic strength training? I'm gonna be doing Starting Strength the entire summer and from october onward I'm gonna be moving quite a lot so gym membership is out of the question. I got the Gymnastic Bodies book from coach Sommer (haven't read it yet). As a beginner am I going to need some special equipment to do it? Here's some on programming: http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/03/the-fundamentals-of-bodyweight-strength-trainingUmmm, the only thing I would say you NEED is rings. You can get some parallettes if you need to but you can build those (out of PVC). I would buy a set of rings. There's multiple vendors online that are reliable. If you need me to list you some I can. Thanks Eshlow, I saw that you have ones listed on your site but theyre pretty expensive (100$), any chance a nice round welded chain link could do or is it a matter of straps too?
Hmmm don't know about chain link.
Most of the straps are the same throughout versions.
There's Xtreme rings, POwer rings, rogue rings, and some others as well. Check them out.
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On May 06 2010 11:00 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2010 22:22 Julmust wrote:
Ok guys so from what I've understood of your conversation potatoes and whole grain pasta/rice is allowed since they dissolve over a much larger period of time and with that gives you a smoother energy curve? (you'd be suprised but I actully understand stuff like that a little bit) Get rid of that stuff and replace it with fruits and vegetables. Fruits for fast acting stuff. Vegetables for starches (slower acting).
hm, you seem to be really sure about replacing whole grains with stuff like vegetables, and considering you've been pretty much spot on about everything else in this thread, I think I'll give that a try for a week or so and see how it goes
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On May 06 2010 11:46 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 11:00 eshlow wrote:On May 05 2010 22:22 Julmust wrote:
Ok guys so from what I've understood of your conversation potatoes and whole grain pasta/rice is allowed since they dissolve over a much larger period of time and with that gives you a smoother energy curve? (you'd be suprised but I actully understand stuff like that a little bit) Get rid of that stuff and replace it with fruits and vegetables. Fruits for fast acting stuff. Vegetables for starches (slower acting). hm, you seem to be really sure about replacing whole grains with stuff like vegetables, and considering you've been pretty much spot on about everything else in this thread, I think I'll give that a try for a week or so and see how it goes
If you wanna read more about the horrors of grains see:
http://www.paleonu.com/
http://robbwolf.com/
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Hey guys I have a diet question here.
I've read up on simple vs. complex carbs, and it seems that the majority of my carbohydrate intake comes from complex carbs (I eat oats, bran, and wheat bread). I haven't really had pasta lately and haven't eaten any fruit in ages, but I do eat vegetables every day.
I am also concerned about foods with a high GI. I understand that low GI foods promote weight loss and improve physical endurance, while high GI foods do nearly nothing for us with that. Some high GI foods are also complex carbs, but what kinds of foods are low GI + complex carbs?
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Do not ever replaced carbs with vegetables...you need vegetables in addition to carbs to help fill you up and get nutrients, but jesus good luck being anything other than emaciated if you have an incredibly low carb diet all the time o_O
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On May 04 2010 03:28 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2010 21:50 RowdierBob wrote:
Just curious what diets you guys have?
Each day I probably go through:
Cereal (I promise it's goodish stuff!)
Milk (between 1.5-2 litres depending if it's a training day)
Footlong from Subway (try stick to the better ones)
Tuna
Wholemeal english muffins with chesse/vegemite
Steak/Chicken with veg (dinner)
Fruits (depending on season)
Pancakes or french toast (I have a great, healthy, pancake recipe if anyone wants it).
About 3-3.5L water
I'm float between 87-90kgs but really struggle to put on weight. Curious as to what some people eat and if there are any good (tasty) tips on food. I try keep my food tasty and healthy as possible because it's friggen impossible to eat boiled chicken and vegetables all day. I start my day with coffee pre-workout. I make sure to put a good bit of sugar in it. After my workout I drink a big glass of milk. Then like a hour later I have 1.5-2 cups of yogurt. After a couple hours I will have something high in protein, like an egg or tuna sandwich(or maybe 2). Though I guess what I have before it is high in protein too lolz. Then after another 2-3 hours I have something else, generally balanced carb/protein like granola cereal or some prunes and nuts. Then for dinner I have whatever my parents decide we are having (living with them atm). This varies a ton. Generally 800-1200 calories. If there isn't protein I add protein. About 1-2 hours after dinner I eat something else, doesn't really matter what. Sometimes pancakes, sometimes oatmeal with butter and brown sugar. All this can vary quite a bit but I would say I average 2500-3k calories a day.
Your nutrition seems backwards to me. You want carbs earlier on the day to fuel your activities, not at night to spike your insulin right before bed o_O In general: protein with every meal, higher carbs earlier on, then a higher protein:carb ratio for your last 2 meals. Also, according to a personal trainer/nutritionist I know, simple sugars are good after your workout to eat with your protein... not sure how effective your apparently empty stomach other than sugarwater workout to start the day is.
But, if you are getting results with it, then whatever..
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On May 06 2010 13:07 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Hey guys I have a diet question here.
I've read up on simple vs. complex carbs, and it seems that the majority of my carbohydrate intake comes from complex carbs (I eat oats, bran, and wheat bread). I haven't really had pasta lately and haven't eaten any fruit in ages, but I do eat vegetables every day.
I am also concerned about foods with a high GI. I understand that low GI foods promote weight loss and improve physical endurance, while high GI foods do nearly nothing for us with that. Some high GI foods are also complex carbs, but what kinds of foods are low GI + complex carbs?
Ehh. Starches... aka vegetables.
On May 06 2010 13:40 Vei wrote:
Do not ever replaced carbs with vegetables...you need vegetables in addition to carbs to help fill you up and get nutrients, but jesus good luck being anything other than emaciated if you have an incredibly low carb diet all the time o_O
No. Just no.
http://robbwolf.com/2010/04/16/kids-paleo-and-nutrient-density/
On May 06 2010 13:53 Vei wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2010 03:28 travis wrote:On May 03 2010 21:50 RowdierBob wrote:
Just curious what diets you guys have?
Each day I probably go through:
Cereal (I promise it's goodish stuff!)
Milk (between 1.5-2 litres depending if it's a training day)
Footlong from Subway (try stick to the better ones)
Tuna
Wholemeal english muffins with chesse/vegemite
Steak/Chicken with veg (dinner)
Fruits (depending on season)
Pancakes or french toast (I have a great, healthy, pancake recipe if anyone wants it).
About 3-3.5L water
I'm float between 87-90kgs but really struggle to put on weight. Curious as to what some people eat and if there are any good (tasty) tips on food. I try keep my food tasty and healthy as possible because it's friggen impossible to eat boiled chicken and vegetables all day. I start my day with coffee pre-workout. I make sure to put a good bit of sugar in it. After my workout I drink a big glass of milk. Then like a hour later I have 1.5-2 cups of yogurt. After a couple hours I will have something high in protein, like an egg or tuna sandwich(or maybe 2). Though I guess what I have before it is high in protein too lolz. Then after another 2-3 hours I have something else, generally balanced carb/protein like granola cereal or some prunes and nuts. Then for dinner I have whatever my parents decide we are having (living with them atm). This varies a ton. Generally 800-1200 calories. If there isn't protein I add protein. About 1-2 hours after dinner I eat something else, doesn't really matter what. Sometimes pancakes, sometimes oatmeal with butter and brown sugar. All this can vary quite a bit but I would say I average 2500-3k calories a day. Your nutrition seems backwards to me. You want carbs earlier on the day to fuel your activities, not at night to spike your insulin right before bed o_O In general: protein with every meal, higher carbs earlier on, then a higher protein:carb ratio for your last 2 meals. Also, according to a personal trainer/nutritionist I know, simple sugars are good after your workout to eat with your protein... not sure how effective your apparently empty stomach other than sugarwater workout to start the day is. But, if you are getting results with it, then whatever..
If you are aiming for weight loss you want to eat lower carb all the time. (And note that "lower carb" may be just lower than what you are doing.) Again, most people if they're eating bread and wheat with everything are more than likely doing 60-70% carbs unknowingly.
Like the link above cutting down to 30-40% of kcal carbs is not exactly "low carb" but it's lower carb non-processed foods. It's actually extremely hard to overeating eating REAL foods. Eat more protein. It's more filling, and it helps you lose weight and put on muscle.
If you are going to eat higher carb for any meal then you want to take them post workout.
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This is why I hate arguing nutrition. People just spout of the stupid food pyramid BS, and don't know crap about metabolism and biochemistry. Obviously, if you live in the US it should be clear to you that the food pyramid AIN'T WORKING. grains are garbage, and people eat way too maybe carbohydrates.
Just eat non-processed foods and you'll be fine.
"Plants (vegetables, fruits, seeds and herbs) and animals (meat, fish, fowl, and eggs) should represent the entire composition of your diet."
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This is why I hate arguing nutrition. People just spout of the stupid food pyramid BS, and don't know crap about metabolism and biochemistry. Obviously, if you live in the US it should be clear to you that the food pyramid AIN'T WORKING. grains are garbage, and people eat way too maybe carbohydrates.
Just eat non-processed foods and you'll be fine.
"Plants (vegetables, fruits, seeds and herbs) and animals (meat, fish, fowl, and eggs) should represent the entire composition of your diet."
High carb is basically just the result of eating processed foods/ bad in general. If you eat real foods you will probably never reach 70%+Carbs, 60% at most.
PS: That is not arguing your points, just quoting because of context
For the whole rice/pasta/potato debate... at least potatoes qualify as a plant for me. I cannot think of anything what's wrong with them. GI is a bit high but not too bad either.
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Son of a bitch
Got up 405 on deadlift pretty easy. Tried 445 and definitely too heavy. Tried 425 and lost my grip half way up. I've gotten 425 up before, and a few weeks ago i put up 405x3 at the end of my deadlift workout. apawoeifjpawief
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On May 06 2010 19:39 Malinor wrote:Show nested quote +
This is why I hate arguing nutrition. People just spout of the stupid food pyramid BS, and don't know crap about metabolism and biochemistry. Obviously, if you live in the US it should be clear to you that the food pyramid AIN'T WORKING. grains are garbage, and people eat way too maybe carbohydrates.
Just eat non-processed foods and you'll be fine.
"Plants (vegetables, fruits, seeds and herbs) and animals (meat, fish, fowl, and eggs) should represent the entire composition of your diet."
High carb is basically just the result of eating processed foods/ bad in general. If you eat real foods you will probably never reach 70%+Carbs, 60% at most. PS: That is not arguing your points, just quoting because of context For the whole rice/pasta/potato debate... at least potatoes qualify as a plant for me. I cannot think of anything what's wrong with them. GI is a bit high but not too bad either.
There's some potential bad side effects of nightshades (of which potatoes are included but interestingly not sweet potatoes) which affects some of the population. Potatoes also include a very potent form of vitamin D which may lead to calcium stones precipitating in places where they shouldn't... such as the kidneys/ureters/etc.
Case by case basis. Again, I'm tending to avoid everything that may potentially cause problems with people. I did name this thread "HEALTH and fitness initiative" for a reason.
Pasta is all refined. Wouldn't touch it unless it was the only thing to eat.
Rice nowadays is pretty refined. It's better than most cases than refined/processed stuff like pastas and breads though.
I know what you mean. Glycemic index should always be taken in context.
Like I said... pretty much this and you'll be eating healthier than 99% of people.
Plants (vegetables, fruits, seeds and herbs) and animals (meat, fish, fowl, and eggs) should represent the entire composition of your diet.
If you're overweight you will likely lose a lot of weight and drop down to where you're supposed to be. Add in some weight lifting and get out and play sports/learn new stuff and you're golden.
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On May 07 2010 01:32 decafchicken wrote:
Son of a bitch
Got up 405 on deadlift pretty easy. Tried 445 and definitely too heavy. Tried 425 and lost my grip half way up. I've gotten 425 up before, and a few weeks ago i put up 405x3 at the end of my deadlift workout. apawoeifjpawief
Do you use chalk? That made a HUGE difference with my deadlift
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On May 07 2010 17:21 Malinor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2010 01:32 decafchicken wrote:
Son of a bitch
Got up 405 on deadlift pretty easy. Tried 445 and definitely too heavy. Tried 425 and lost my grip half way up. I've gotten 425 up before, and a few weeks ago i put up 405x3 at the end of my deadlift workout. apawoeifjpawief Do you use chalk? That made a HUGE difference with my deadlift
Yeah i dont have any chalk. I should definitely get some. I definitely had it if it wasn't for it slipping out. Wrist wraps would have been ez pz. i also used too much back...should have started out with more legs
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On May 07 2010 17:41 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2010 17:21 Malinor wrote:On May 07 2010 01:32 decafchicken wrote:
Son of a bitch
Got up 405 on deadlift pretty easy. Tried 445 and definitely too heavy. Tried 425 and lost my grip half way up. I've gotten 425 up before, and a few weeks ago i put up 405x3 at the end of my deadlift workout. apawoeifjpawief Do you use chalk? That made a HUGE difference with my deadlift Yeah i dont have any chalk. I should definitely get some. I definitely had it if it wasn't for it slipping out. Wrist wraps would have been ez pz. i also used too much back...should have started out with more legs
100% sure you will get it with chalk, adds a lot of stability if you don't have to worry about the bar slipping away. Go get some. And if you are in a commercial gym take a small wet towel with you to clean up, or they get mad 
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On May 07 2010 17:46 Malinor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2010 17:41 decafchicken wrote:On May 07 2010 17:21 Malinor wrote:On May 07 2010 01:32 decafchicken wrote:
Son of a bitch
Got up 405 on deadlift pretty easy. Tried 445 and definitely too heavy. Tried 425 and lost my grip half way up. I've gotten 425 up before, and a few weeks ago i put up 405x3 at the end of my deadlift workout. apawoeifjpawief Do you use chalk? That made a HUGE difference with my deadlift Yeah i dont have any chalk. I should definitely get some. I definitely had it if it wasn't for it slipping out. Wrist wraps would have been ez pz. i also used too much back...should have started out with more legs 100% sure you will get it with chalk, adds a lot of stability if you don't have to worry about the bar slipping away. Go get some. And if you are in a commercial gym take a small wet towel with you to clean up, or they get mad
Yeah...no commercial gym for me this summer. I just hoping to use my old high school gym as much as i can because the only commercial gym within 20 min of me pretty much has 0 free weights with 0 squat rack and a no dead lift/bent over row policy. FUCK YOU PLANET FITNESS
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