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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 29 2010 04:05 GMT
#3741
For Oly you do want the shoes... the heel lift of Oly shoes gives a bit more leverage advantage especially in front squat. Additionally, if you choose not to use them your hammies need A LOT more flexibility at the bottom

For regular squat/DL I'd go barefoot
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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
November 29 2010 04:13 GMT
#3742
oops i meant for cleans and snatch since u are moving your feet around.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
mols0n
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada388 Posts
November 29 2010 04:20 GMT
#3743
If anyone has any questions about supplements, training programs just shoot me a msg i`ll be happy to help.

Stats:25
185
10%bf
training for 6 years now
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Pics posted to show i`m not just some scrawny kid talking bs
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 04:25:34
November 29 2010 04:25 GMT
#3744
why are u wearing gloves?

lol jk
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
mols0n
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada388 Posts
November 29 2010 04:34 GMT
#3745
On November 29 2010 13:25 AoN.DimSum wrote:
why are u wearing gloves?

lol jk


. Honestly though I think most people try to over complicate working out. I`m not saying like im an expert or anything but what i found works out best for me is.

1) Nutrition. Whether you are bulking or cutting nutrition plays more than 70% of your results. Lots of people(hard gainers for example) say that they put work into the gym and they dont see results. Well you probably are not eating enough. Ive been there. Dont get caught up with gimmicky supplements either. protein powder, amino acids(bcaa), and a multivitamin is all you need

2) Consistency. You have to be consistent. Not this go one day, skip one day. Go one week skip one week nonsense. You wont get any results. When you start seeing results is when you follow a program 3+ months

3) workout programs. Follow a workout program suited for your goals. If you`re bulking dont do like an hour of cardio a day. If your cutting stop doing a bulking workout program. One common mistake i find is people try to bulk and cut at the same time. unless youre on steroids or just genetically gifted this is near impossible. You need to eat a lot to bulk but you need to eat less to cut... kinda hard to do

again i dont have a degree in nutrition or anything but ive done personal training and have experience so any questions just ask im happy to help!
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20078 Posts
November 29 2010 04:39 GMT
#3746
On November 29 2010 13:25 AoN.DimSum wrote:
why are u wearing gloves?

lol jk


I was more curious as to how he ended up posing shirtless in the middle of a gym for pictures lol
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
November 29 2010 05:30 GMT
#3747
ughh 7 days off from holiday gym closures and visiting my family out of town. I'm get to do the regular ss novice program for a while now though while I catch up! That's a bonus... squat heavy 3x/week here we go.

Oh, Mols0n, what are your best bench/squat/dl?
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Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
November 29 2010 06:48 GMT
#3748
I'm looking into buying either a couple of kettle bells or resistance bands to do some home workouts. Which would you guys recommend?
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 29 2010 07:23 GMT
#3749
Well they are for pretty different training ja?

resistance bands might be a better choice because they will keep their usefulness as u grow stronger

kettlebells not so much

they'll alos be much cheaper i would guess
Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
November 29 2010 13:58 GMT
#3750
Yeah I don't have any specific work out goals, just looking for overall versatility I guess. Thanks.
http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20078 Posts
November 29 2010 14:53 GMT
#3751
You should definitely start by laying out some tangible goals for you to achieve, like adding x pounds to a certain lift or adding/losing a certain amount of weight/bodyfat.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
mols0n
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada388 Posts
November 29 2010 15:26 GMT
#3752
On November 29 2010 13:39 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 13:25 AoN.DimSum wrote:
why are u wearing gloves?

lol jk


I was more curious as to how he ended up posing shirtless in the middle of a gym for pictures lol


Haha gym was closing and I knew the guys that worked there so.

Personal bests are 285 bench 275 squat and 405 Dead. All those are 1 rep max. I can only squat like 2 plates now though since my knee isn't so great. I think knee, shoulder, and wrists injuries are the most common for anyone who trains on a reg basis
rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 15:57:34
November 29 2010 15:56 GMT
#3753
Guys, should I start doing pullups with added weight or keep doing them normally until I get around 15 (as Rippetoe instructs)? My max is currently around 10.
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Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
November 29 2010 16:10 GMT
#3754
On November 29 2010 23:53 decafchicken wrote:
You should definitely start by laying out some tangible goals for you to achieve, like adding x pounds to a certain lift or adding/losing a certain amount of weight/bodyfat.


I don't have any weight/body fat/lift more goals. I'm mainly a runner (been doing it since April, logging around ~25 miles/week now). Besides running I go to the gym 3 times a week to do some basic lifting (no heavy squatting or anything extreme). I have decent tone and strength and I would definitely like to maintain or improve on those. Basically I want to stay away from becoming one of those runners who sure are fast as hell but look like a twig. I want to eventually increase my mileage but I feel that if I focus too much on running and neglect all sorts of lifting or strength training then I'm gonna end up looking the way I'm trying to avoid. Due to time/distance issues I can't always run AND go to the gym on the same day (I hate treadmills).

Sooo to recap: I run a lot, I don't want to get super skinny, kettle bells or resistance bands?

Thanks.
http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
November 29 2010 17:18 GMT
#3755
On November 30 2010 01:10 Donkeys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 23:53 decafchicken wrote:
You should definitely start by laying out some tangible goals for you to achieve, like adding x pounds to a certain lift or adding/losing a certain amount of weight/bodyfat.


I don't have any weight/body fat/lift more goals. I'm mainly a runner (been doing it since April, logging around ~25 miles/week now). Besides running I go to the gym 3 times a week to do some basic lifting (no heavy squatting or anything extreme). I have decent tone and strength and I would definitely like to maintain or improve on those. Basically I want to stay away from becoming one of those runners who sure are fast as hell but look like a twig. I want to eventually increase my mileage but I feel that if I focus too much on running and neglect all sorts of lifting or strength training then I'm gonna end up looking the way I'm trying to avoid. Due to time/distance issues I can't always run AND go to the gym on the same day (I hate treadmills).

Sooo to recap: I run a lot, I don't want to get super skinny, kettle bells or resistance bands?

Thanks.


If you don't want to look like a twig, take in more calories. Runners get super skinny because their body is constantly breaking down available fat for more energy, because when you get to be an extremely long distance runner, it isn't easy to put more calories into your body than you will be burning. If you're covering 25 a week or so, that's a great number, and it certainly will be possible to keep weight on your body - it's just going to require that you eat a whole hell of a lot.

I have never used resistance bands, but I did play around with kettlebells and "athletic muscle" for two years (coincidentally, as a distance runner and a basketball player) before I got into this forum, starting strength and the like. Kettlebells were a good time... however, compared to standard barbell training I really can't say anything good about them. Perhaps an already experienced lifter looking to train in a way that might benefit a particular sport might have success with them - but in the way of progress made vs. effort put in, there's no contest in how much I have gained through more "normal" lifting. I never seemed to make noticeable progress on kettlebells (at least not enough for it to be "motivating"), whereas I've more than doubled my bench press in three months visiting the gym three times a week.

Kettlebells are expensive; you will need a new kettlebell every time you attempt to move up weights. They are difficult to put into a proper routine unless you are already experienced with them, and the nature of the motions involved lends itself heavily to hyper extensions, sprains and pulled muscles. I'm sure they have uses to a top level athlete, who has a considerable base of strength going into a workout program, but to anyone else I really can't recommend them.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20078 Posts
November 29 2010 17:53 GMT
#3756
On November 30 2010 00:26 mols0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 13:39 decafchicken wrote:
On November 29 2010 13:25 AoN.DimSum wrote:
why are u wearing gloves?

lol jk


I was more curious as to how he ended up posing shirtless in the middle of a gym for pictures lol


Haha gym was closing and I knew the guys that worked there so.

Personal bests are 285 bench 275 squat and 405 Dead. All those are 1 rep max. I can only squat like 2 plates now though since my knee isn't so great. I think knee, shoulder, and wrists injuries are the most common for anyone who trains on a reg basis


I don't think any injuries should be common. As long as you stretch and use proper technique you really shouldn't be running into injury problems. If your knee isn't "so great" then you should rehab it and do some deep squats to keep it strong.

On November 30 2010 00:56 rEiGN~ wrote:
Guys, should I start doing pullups with added weight or keep doing them normally until I get around 15 (as Rippetoe instructs)? My max is currently around 10.


Generally it's best to stick to the program. I don't really see a problem with it if you want to start adding a few pounds. but yeah usually just stick to the program, its usually that way for a reason

On November 30 2010 01:10 Donkeys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 23:53 decafchicken wrote:
You should definitely start by laying out some tangible goals for you to achieve, like adding x pounds to a certain lift or adding/losing a certain amount of weight/bodyfat.


I don't have any weight/body fat/lift more goals. I'm mainly a runner (been doing it since April, logging around ~25 miles/week now). Besides running I go to the gym 3 times a week to do some basic lifting (no heavy squatting or anything extreme). I have decent tone and strength and I would definitely like to maintain or improve on those. Basically I want to stay away from becoming one of those runners who sure are fast as hell but look like a twig. I want to eventually increase my mileage but I feel that if I focus too much on running and neglect all sorts of lifting or strength training then I'm gonna end up looking the way I'm trying to avoid. Due to time/distance issues I can't always run AND go to the gym on the same day (I hate treadmills).

Sooo to recap: I run a lot, I don't want to get super skinny, kettle bells or resistance bands?

Thanks.


Neither. Do starting strength. Barbell training = awesome for you. Heavy squatting isn't "extreme", it's just good for you. And figure out how many calories you burn and then eat more than that if you want to fill out a bit.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Koagel
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria167 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 18:55:22
November 29 2010 18:37 GMT
#3757
At least static stretching doesn't prevent injuries or reduce DOMS, but is possibly detrimental to the performance... I found a study some time ago that mentioned it may have a positive impact on strength gains though, but it wasn't exactly convincing since the number of participants was low.

But yeah, barbells are better than kettlebells or resistance bands. Should also be cheaper than kettlebells at least.

EDIT: Hm, it might be a mistake to generalise "injuries", it may have a positive effect on muscle strains.
EDIT2: Warming up is important.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20078 Posts
November 29 2010 18:57 GMT
#3758
yeah I meant warm up in general, I like to do a bit of dynamic stretching before I start lifting.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
November 29 2010 21:04 GMT
#3759
Don't you just hate it when you come to the gym, well fed and well rested, only to find out that your shake puked all over your stuff in the gymbag? <insert a string of ugly words>

Had a good workout though...week 2 of Wendler's 531.

Deadlift: 65kg x 8, 75kg x 8 and 85kg x 25 (the last set was supposed to be 3+...)
Good Mornings: 3 sets of 40kg x 15 and 2 sets of 45kg x 15
Croc Rows: 42,5kg x 20

Finished by going to the hot tubs and having an ice bath.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20078 Posts
November 30 2010 00:25 GMT
#3760
Had another day of oly lifting with the local club, there were a couple 60 year old lifters that helped us out a lot with our form. I stopped jumping like a fucking idiot on my snatches and it feels about a million times more stable and was actually able to go into a squat on my snatches. Snatching is really fucking hard though so i'm gonna keep working on it.
-Snatched 40kg, 50, 55, 60, 65, 70, and i think 75? I'm just slowly moving up in weight and working on my form at each weight for a couple sets before moving up.
-Cleaning feeling awesome, working a lot more on exploding and finishing in my second pull which i think is helping my catch. The guys said my form is a lot better on my clean.
Did something like 50, 70, 80, 90, 95, 100, 105, 110 (new pr!)
Started off doing triples for both lifts and singles as it got heavier.
I felt fucking awesome, especially when i cleaned that 110. I'm slowly becoming as awesome as dimsum! Olympic lifting is seriously so fun/rewarding.
-Then i'm not sure how but i benched 10x135,8x200,6x225,4x240, 2x260,1x275 (my old max..2ez)
and finished up with some weighted chin ups.
Damn i feel good.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
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