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I have ported the original eul Dota map to Dota 2!

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arsjac 11 Posts July 27 2016 18:48 GMT #1 I was hard at work lately and I have ported the original eul 3.76d Warcraft 3 map to Dota 2! One of the very first Dota maps ever, the original eul-versions from which everything started! Before Allstars, before Guinsoo, before Icefrog, before Dota 2, before LOL, before HON! Before HOTS! This is the beginning, the start of the genre. Here's the map: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=725837387 Search on the in-game Dota 2 arcade for "Dota Classic" to play it. All the orginal mechanics are there: *All items fully shareable *Killing a barracks stops the respective production *Secret river shop *Morbazan (secret quest) *Special exclusive items tied to scourge/sentinel *Warcraft 3-like corpse system to make the undead-spells work *Hero-selection tied to factions *Gold-transfer between players All original heroes ported, with the exception of four! (they will get ported too, just a bit later) With the exception of the infravision-dog (coming soon) all items ported, all spells and the old layout! Some things not completely aligned with the original yet: *mega-creeps still there (weren't in the original), working on it to remove them *Leshrac is not a 100% copy, as is Luna's ultimate (working on that) *Some stats of the neutral creeps and their respawn-timers *Some damage types could be wrong (magic instead of pure etc. - that's just because so many of them got ported, 28 * 4! Some mistakes are inevitable) It's not going to be 100% replica in all areas, that's simply impossible given the engine differences, but it's very close. The experience is pretty authentic. So, if you always wanted to experience how it all started, you have the chance now! Screensots: Original/Replica:

arsjac 11 Posts July 27 2016 18:50 GMT #2 Some more: Hero-selection: The classic attract spell:

Ler Germany543 Posts July 27 2016 19:39 GMT #3 are you even allowed to use wc3 models? o:

a_flayer Netherlands2826 Posts July 27 2016 20:08 GMT #4 Where is the superior Tides of Blood? XD

BeanerBurrito 1010 Posts July 27 2016 22:37 GMT #5 On July 28 2016 05:08 a_flayer wrote: Where is the superior Tides of Blood? XD This is literally my dream. Pls make

Torte de Lini Germany38463 Posts July 28 2016 23:09 GMT #6 On July 28 2016 04:39 Ler wrote: are you even allowed to use wc3 models? o: yes

I_love_sharkpeople United States253 Posts July 30 2016 16:51 GMT #7 On July 28 2016 07:37 BeanerBurrito wrote: Show nested quote + On July 28 2016 05:08 a_flayer wrote: Where is the superior Tides of Blood? XD This is literally my dream. Pls make I remember when cassiel was talking about trying to get the game in its own client. A shame it never happened, I think it could have really taken off.

arsjac 11 Posts August 07 2016 15:17 GMT #8 I am glad to say that Dota Classic reached now version 1.1! Notable changes in this release: *The shop system is completely revamped! All items are now sold by the classic shop vendors ("Sena the Accessorizer" etc.) instead of the one-shop system of Dota 2. *All items have their original cool-down timings (in eul-Dota, some items couldn't be bought at start - that mechanic is now in) *the map is a bit more aligned with the original (tower stats) *Lots of bugfixes *The respawn system for creeps is completely revamped: All neutral creeps have now their original respawn-timers and stat-configuration (HP, armor, amount of spawned creeps etc.). Unfortunately, as a side-effect, the camps aren't shown on the minimap anymore (the icons are tied to the standard spawner, which has been replaced), maybe this can be resolved in the next update. *Lane creeps are revamped as well: No more spawns of mega creeps, like in the original. *AND... another classic hero ported: Mandevar! This update is huge, because now all the original mechanics are in. The remake is almost finished! All that is left (aside from a few bugs maybe) are the missing three heroes and one item.

arsjac 11 Posts August 14 2016 20:47 GMT #9 Another classic hero ported: Sidereal Engine! This is the famous tank from the eul version which never had a proper replacement in allstars/Dota 2. A true premiere. One of the most unique heroes in Dota history.

arsjac 11 Posts August 25 2016 20:36 GMT #10 New version: 1.3. Pit Lord added! The classic Pit Lord is a completely different beast compared to the Dota 2 and Dota Allstars version - he is a true tank in ROC Dota (he can summon felhounds and has reincarnation).

arsjac 11 Posts September 01 2016 17:32 GMT #11 New version: 1.4. Stealth Assassin (hero) and infravision dog (item) added. With that, the game is now feature-complete! That's it, with this update all heroes and items from the original eul ROC Dota are now in! The port is done! I will add some bugfixes in the next few days/next week and release 1.5 with that, but that's it for the most part. The main work is done. The original dota that that sparked the genre is now ported to Dota 2! Yeeha!

OmniEulogy Canada6600 Posts September 03 2016 13:58 GMT #12 that's pretty fantastic

arsjac 11 Posts September 03 2016 14:47 GMT #13 Well, the promised 1.5 bugfix version is out now. There are some bugfixes, some spells are more aligned with the original and it's possible to attack allies at any point, just like in the WC3 version. That's it. Game is pretty much done. If people will find some bugs or there will be a game breaking change in the Dota 2 client, I will fix it, but the main work is finished now. Horraaay!

arsjac 11 Posts September 03 2016 14:48 GMT #14 Now that it is done, why have I done this? The heroes in classic were a lot more specialized and had a lot in common with the medic/engineer/heavy/soldier classes found in games like Team Fortress. For example: Each side had a hero which could heal and teleport (Celeste and Nilirai - today's Lina and Furion). These were absolutely crucial, because they served as medics on the map, couriers (it was possible to send gold to other players and share items, yet there were no animal couriers) and were able to deal area damage. This was important because of the many summons the map had and the medics were their counters. The summoners in turn worked a lot like engineers - their primary focus was about about moving their summoned units in the best possible position - correct skeleton positioning (blocking enemy heroes etc.) was extremely important for the Wraithlord (today's lich). There was also a dedicated tower-sieger class: Old Earthshaker, Sidereal Engine. One of the main reasons I started with the map was because I was really fed up with modern dota clones at some point and wanted to recreate the feeling the originals gave (Dota Classic, Tides of Blood). Those were far more team based: The gold pooling, the enforced team work through the healer/summoner classes, no mega-heroes due less powerful items etc. Some of the things about Tides of Blood here: https://lanepushinggames.com/2014/12/18/review-tides-of-blood-part-2/ Apply to Dota Classic as well. To recreate that team-feeling was one of the main reasons I did the map.

intotheheart Canada33091 Posts September 03 2016 14:56 GMT #15 It's super interesting how you got corpses to work - something I don't know if they have in normal DotA 2.

arsjac 11 Posts September 03 2016 14:58 GMT #16 The corpses are a custom mechanic - in Dota 2 they get deleted within 5 seconds otherwise.

lestye United States4208 Posts September 05 2016 16:54 GMT #17 Here's an old cast from a super super early Dota tournament. The caster is Fluffy_Bunny who was the head on Dota Classic in the 3. something series.

arsjac 11 Posts September 07 2016 13:54 GMT #18 Dota Classic made it to the international news! English: https://www.vg247.com/2016/09/07/someone-ported-one-of-the-first-warcraft-3-dota-maps-to-dota-2/ http://segmentnext.com/2016/09/07/modder-ported-warcraft-3-dota-map/ German: https://www.computerbase.de/2016-09/fan-mod-dota-karte-league-of-legends/ http://www.onlinewelten.com/games/dota-2/news/warcraft-3-map-spiel-portiert-129727/ Hungarian: http://www.gamestar.hu/hir/dota-2-workshop-dota-classic-216661.html Russian: http://gamebomb.ru/gbnews/17697 https://shazoo.ru/2016/09/07/43577/modder-perenes-samuyu-pervuyu-kartu-warcraft-3-dota-v-dota-2 Chinese: http://www.3dmgame.com/news/201609/3591020.html And you were here when it was just a forum post!

ahswtini Northern Ireland22212 Posts September 07 2016 15:46 GMT #19 this is cool, well done!

arsjac 11 Posts September 23 2016 19:05 GMT #20 Baumi plays Dota Classic: Except for missing the fact that killing the barracks actually does stop production, he did a good job.

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