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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
June 26 2012 09:15 GMT
#1221
A guy randoms sf, buys an iron helm, and went bot with our PL. Ended up with a venge solo. Whole game play RPG in the jungle, ended with a final score of 0/11
Dear Sixsmith...
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 26 2012 11:00 GMT
#1222
On June 26 2012 16:19 ChrisXIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 15:27 Angra wrote:
What the fuck is it with pub players? 4 games in a row tonight so far with at least 1 person on my team doing absolutely nothing all game but farming and dying to the other team's 5 man roam. I don't think I've had a single 5v5 teamfight all night. It's always been 5v3, 5v2, etc.

The last game I just played, my friend picks QoP and goes mid and calls it, after all this happens, this pub on our team picks Kunkka, says nothing, then just walks mid next to my friend and starts farming. What the fuck?

Big mistake simply calling mid, you have to type "MID OR FEED" otherwise noone's going to give a shit.


Whenever someone says 'MID OR FEED' games, there's easy solution. Pick Chen, go mid, and just constantly send them back to base. There's nothing they can do about it.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
June 26 2012 11:11 GMT
#1223
Alchemist.

That is all.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
June 26 2012 11:36 GMT
#1224
On June 26 2012 20:00 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 16:19 ChrisXIV wrote:
On June 26 2012 15:27 Angra wrote:
What the fuck is it with pub players? 4 games in a row tonight so far with at least 1 person on my team doing absolutely nothing all game but farming and dying to the other team's 5 man roam. I don't think I've had a single 5v5 teamfight all night. It's always been 5v3, 5v2, etc.

The last game I just played, my friend picks QoP and goes mid and calls it, after all this happens, this pub on our team picks Kunkka, says nothing, then just walks mid next to my friend and starts farming. What the fuck?

Big mistake simply calling mid, you have to type "MID OR FEED" otherwise noone's going to give a shit.


Whenever someone says 'MID OR FEED' games, there's easy solution. Pick Chen, go mid, and just constantly send them back to base. There's nothing they can do about it.


Disable allied help
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
June 26 2012 12:02 GMT
#1225
On June 26 2012 20:11 EchelonTee wrote:
Alchemist.

That is all.


Ah yes. ):
Dear Sixsmith...
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
June 26 2012 17:34 GMT
#1226
> SD mode
> Ursa, Batrider, *insert bad str hero with bad disable which I don't remember*

Me: "Guys, don't pick carry only please"
> Weaver, Morph, Spirit Breaker, Gyrocopter
*facepalm*
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
June 27 2012 05:26 GMT
#1227
I'm morphling and laning with a Ogre Magi. Puck gets a haste rune and successfully ganks our lane at level 3, and gets a kill. CK goes roaming and basically I have 5 minutes of freefarm at a very early time with which I could have a ridiculously fast development. Instead ogre takes at least half of the freefarm and completely fucks with my cs.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
June 27 2012 06:37 GMT
#1228
had a match where I was laning with Lion while I was Slar. Lion decided to LH nearly ever creep which gimped be quite a bit. Following that, my team complained I did not have armlet and Vg yet. Oh, and Lion Ks'd me as well without any hesitation. I saved his life, brought the guy down to near death (1 hit shy from killing), so he uses Earth Spike just to get the kill while I was about to kill... sigh.

Oh, and my last game. We had AA, QoP, Husk, Silencer, and i was Slar. QoP went mid and I went top. I told Husk to go bottom but no, Silencer decided that he would lane with AA... and proceeded to feed PA. yeah, it ended up being gg.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
ryndaris
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
263 Posts
June 27 2012 08:56 GMT
#1229
All pick. Line-up looks pretty damn amazing for a pub game (Dark Seer, Shadow Fiend, Leshrac, AA and Slardar.) I suggest a tri-lane bot with myself on Lesh, AA and Slard. Slard goes apeshit and claims that tri-lanes are bad, we ignore him and get a first-blood double kill on Wind and Sven anyway.

A couple of moments later I ping the map and go back to pull the creeps I had stacked earlier; of course Slard figures that those boots he bought with the FB gold make him a living god and tower dives with both opponents on full HP - he gets shackled to a tree and promptly raped. He then uses this as "proof" that tri-lanes are terrible and TP's up to Dark Seer's lane. AA and I continue to dominate our lane and our team proceeds to end the game at 30 mins.

Slard goes: "gg guys but remember tri-lane is bad." Sigh.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
June 27 2012 11:19 GMT
#1230
On June 27 2012 17:56 ryndaris wrote:
All pick. Line-up looks pretty damn amazing for a pub game (Dark Seer, Shadow Fiend, Leshrac, AA and Slardar.) I suggest a tri-lane bot with myself on Lesh, AA and Slard.


They never understand trilane etc, thats just how pubs are. I was surprised you even tried lol, the unwritten rule for most pub players is 2-1-2/1(jungle), if you do anything else they'll call you noob. At times even jungling gets called as "not being a team player".
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
June 27 2012 11:25 GMT
#1231
why would you trilane in pubs, seriously its boring as shit
SamuraiSEA
Profile Joined June 2012
Japan89 Posts
June 27 2012 12:11 GMT
#1232
In hero selection, team consists of Pudge, Drow, AM and dazzle and the last person hasn't chosen yet..

He says "I'll pick according to what will work"

Picks Riki. We lost. 50minutes wasted... As is the case with this game... *sigh*
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10873 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 12:53:56
June 27 2012 12:45 GMT
#1233
People that "force" trilane in pubs are morons .

You gamble on everyone playing (really) high level to make it truely worth it.. EVEN if you get first blood.
You gamble on everyone WANTING to play a Trilane...

Sorry, just play with your mates if you want "advanced" strategy...
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
June 27 2012 13:26 GMT
#1234
Yeah I would personally never ask random people to trilane with me, even if it was in your case probably the most optimal strategy. Having 1 random lane with me already causes me enough headaches most of the time, I can't possibly imagine 2
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 14:21:48
June 27 2012 14:20 GMT
#1235
On June 27 2012 21:45 Velr wrote:
You gamble on everyone playing (really) high level to make it truely worth it.. EVEN if you get first blood.


This is a very important argument. It is actually very hard to play proper trilane, and almost impossible to play it without TS/Skype/Something similar. The pulling support has to be very good to double pull effectively, you should ward the lane close to enemy tier1 to see the opportunity to gank, and you should talk, to plan when to gank, because just hanging around in the lane all the time is a complete waste. The only way to do it imho is with dual lane+ganking jungler(chen, ench or enig).
On June 27 2012 17:56 ryndaris wrote:
All pick. Line-up looks pretty damn amazing for a pub game (Dark Seer, Shadow Fiend, Leshrac, AA and Slardar.) I suggest a tri-lane bot with myself on Lesh, AA and Slard.

If you had aa slard lesh, you should have offensive trilaned maybe. That may work, since at least you screw up the enemy carry too (and rotation in pubs is pretty unlikely).
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
June 27 2012 14:50 GMT
#1236
Pub wisdom:

10 minutes of freefarm early game should give you Power Treads, a Magic Stick, a Battlefury...and some other big item, like MKB.
Solo melee vs a Sand King, a missing Riki and a Nature's Prophet on the enemy team is considered freefarm.
Solo Riki can totally stop Axe/QoP intercepting creeps between the T1 and T2 towers.
Sven and Lina is a retarded lane that can never work.
Juggernaut is not a carry and does not need farm.

...yeah, I'm taking a break from this game.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
June 27 2012 22:10 GMT
#1237
pudge misses hook on lone rubick. Rubick steals hook, hooks pudge. Pudge dismembers and kills rubick -_-
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 27 2012 22:18 GMT
#1238
On June 28 2012 07:10 PassiveAce wrote:
pudge misses hook on lone rubick. Rubick steals hook, hooks pudge. Pudge dismembers and kills rubick -_-

That's my main problem with the hero, nobody can expect what will happen around him, the guy playing Rubick often included
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
LeglessPuppy
Profile Joined March 2011
United States190 Posts
June 27 2012 23:23 GMT
#1239
On June 27 2012 17:56 ryndaris wrote:
All pick. Line-up looks pretty damn amazing for a pub game (Dark Seer, Shadow Fiend, Leshrac, AA and Slardar.) I suggest a tri-lane bot with myself on Lesh, AA and Slard. Slard goes apeshit and claims that tri-lanes are bad, we ignore him and get a first-blood double kill on Wind and Sven anyway.

A couple of moments later I ping the map and go back to pull the creeps I had stacked earlier; of course Slard figures that those boots he bought with the FB gold make him a living god and tower dives with both opponents on full HP - he gets shackled to a tree and promptly raped. He then uses this as "proof" that tri-lanes are terrible and TP's up to Dark Seer's lane. AA and I continue to dominate our lane and our team proceeds to end the game at 30 mins.

Slard goes: "gg guys but remember tri-lane is bad." Sigh.


The problem is that tri-lanes are really only effective if it is a trilane on your jungling side for the easy ganks and it is easier for you to stop them from invading your jungle and fuckign with your jungler.

Best option if you trilane is 1/1/2+jungler. Soemthing like Dark Seer > Invoker > Carry&support&jungler.

Most trilanes that are just 3 in a lane fail as long as the person being laned against isn't a tard. 1v3 you play extremely safe and don't die and you win your lane because you will be 6 LONG before them. In 2v1 you usually hit 6 around the time that they hit 4. In a 3v2 you still play safe and just last hit under your tower and do your best not to die. You WILL hit 6 before them as long as you play safe and stay in exp range which gives you a pretty big advantage.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
June 28 2012 02:20 GMT
#1240
On June 28 2012 07:10 PassiveAce wrote:
pudge misses hook on lone rubick. Rubick steals hook, hooks pudge. Pudge dismembers and kills rubick -_-

i did that just a few days ago! I'm hilariously awful at dota... but this was one of those moments you knew it was a bad idea but it just felt so right you had to do it... don't know how to describe it.
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