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Velzi
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland659 Posts
April 22 2016 14:10 GMT
#29021
On April 21 2016 12:50 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:
Good lord, 35% win ratio vs spectre these last 100 games.

Last Month:
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I mean, yeah. (For my defense i randomed OD twice in last month). Dunno how i can have 60% WR Against OD tho, i guess i know how to play vs that cancer.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you to their level and then beat you with experience. http://www.dotabuff.com/players/115305822 https://yasp.co/players/115305822
BigO
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden956 Posts
April 22 2016 14:22 GMT
#29022
Just pick something like Lich+Doom or Lich+Necro for offlane and Spectre wont be a problem. People that go like solo offlane Void or something that can't really pressure the lane vs a Spectre deserve to lose (not saying you guys do, but you get the idea).

As in real life, problems doesn't just disapear, you have to deal with them.
Velzi
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland659 Posts
April 22 2016 14:23 GMT
#29023
On April 22 2016 23:22 BigO wrote:
Just pick something like Lich+Doom or Lich+Necro for offlane and Spectre wont be a problem. People that go like solo offlane Void or something that can't really pressure the lane vs a Spectre deserve to lose (not saying you guys do, but you get the idea).

As in real life, problems doesn't just disapear, you have to deal with them.

I have played Viper+Jakiro dual offlane vs that shit twice and lost both games.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you to their level and then beat you with experience. http://www.dotabuff.com/players/115305822 https://yasp.co/players/115305822
DonDomingo
Profile Joined October 2015
504 Posts
April 22 2016 18:17 GMT
#29024
On April 22 2016 23:22 BigO wrote:
Just pick something like Lich+Doom or Lich+Necro for offlane and Spectre wont be a problem. People that go like solo offlane Void or something that can't really pressure the lane vs a Spectre deserve to lose (not saying you guys do, but you get the idea).

As in real life, problems doesn't just disapear, you have to deal with them.

Pressuring Spectre early on is easy - magically turning your allies into competent players who understand how to play against Spectre come mid-game, on the other hand, is not so easy.
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
April 22 2016 18:54 GMT
#29025
On April 23 2016 03:17 DonDomingo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 23:22 BigO wrote:
Just pick something like Lich+Doom or Lich+Necro for offlane and Spectre wont be a problem. People that go like solo offlane Void or something that can't really pressure the lane vs a Spectre deserve to lose (not saying you guys do, but you get the idea).

As in real life, problems doesn't just disapear, you have to deal with them.

Pressuring Spectre early on is easy - magically turning your allies into competent players who understand how to play against Spectre come mid-game, on the other hand, is not so easy.



Yeah. Because somehow asking your teammates to be at full health when there's a Spectre and Zeus on the other team is too much to ask for. Go back to the fountain and heal please.

Ok nvm, you're dead.

FML.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-23 01:55:07
April 22 2016 23:26 GMT
#29026
If you're a squishy support that spec and zeus can kill with their ults, don't be alone on the map. That's "understanding how to play against spectre". Go base if she can kill you. If you don't, she'll send you there anyway and get her radi doing it.

The hero is bullshit strong in pubs, I don't disagree, but squishies who feed her and then go "what else am I supposed to do?" are a major factor contributing to her bullshitness.

Also void is a much stronger laner than you guys are giving him credit for. He can win solo vs spec+1 if he's good or a bashlord, and he's at least as valid in a cancer dual lane as doom. Veno/lich/jak/silencer+void is super scary.
BigO
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden956 Posts
April 23 2016 01:05 GMT
#29027
The difference here being that you can suck and still win a lane as Lich+Necro, whereas you probably need to be somewhat competent to do the same with Void (instead of Necro). Necro also has the added benefit of being a strong pusher which also makes Spectres life even worse. There's one thing beating Spectre in lane, but you also need to use that advantage to get total map control asap, Void doesn't do that as well as Necro, Doom just to name a few. With that said, I don't mean that Void can't handle beating Spectre, I just feel there are other alternatives that does it better.
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-23 01:54:17
April 23 2016 01:54 GMT
#29028
On April 23 2016 10:05 BigO wrote:
The difference here being that you can suck and still win a lane as Lich+Necro, whereas you probably need to be somewhat competent to do the same with Void (instead of Necro). Necro also has the added benefit of being a strong pusher which also makes Spectres life even worse. There's one thing beating Spectre in lane, but you also need to use that advantage to get total map control asap, Void doesn't do that as well as Necro, Doom just to name a few. With that said, I don't mean that Void can't handle beating Spectre, I just feel there are other alternatives that does it better.


Honestly, any time i feel like a need a win, i play offlane necro and just shut their safelane down. Plus Aghs can literally just win you the game out right. Have like 65% win rate with necro. lol
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
April 23 2016 11:34 GMT
#29029
I wish lvl 2 invoke and lvl 7 invoke for two spells are back next patch.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
April 23 2016 12:09 GMT
#29030
On April 23 2016 20:34 nojok wrote:
I wish lvl 2 invoke and lvl 7 invoke for two spells are back next patch.


Either this or reduces the damage of all spells to balance out the fact that he has 10 spells.

Or nerf the shit out of aghs
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
April 24 2016 11:27 GMT
#29031
ya i used to think sea was bad skillwise until i queued on us on my smurf

the chinese 5.1k account buying offlane memediance sny naix feeding OD top didn't exactly help either
ffxiv enjoyer
HellNino
Profile Joined September 2011
France156 Posts
April 24 2016 14:25 GMT
#29032
Question: Why are mid players almost always arrogant pieces of shit?
I'm not supposed to pull you 2 tangos, when I am solo support, and there is a riki in the enemy team.
Fuck you.
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IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
April 24 2016 16:14 GMT
#29033
On April 24 2016 23:25 HellNino wrote:
Question: Why are mid players almost always arrogant pieces of shit?
I'm not supposed to pull you 2 tangos, when I am solo support, and there is a riki in the enemy team.
Fuck you.



People just do not understand that that early 125 gold isnt going to kill them. especially if you are someone like Zeus, Just spam the wave a couple of times and you have your gold back you lazy punks!


My QQ, Played like shit on DS a game and cost our team a win. It sucks when you know that its you bringing everyone down.
Something witty
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-25 05:27:48
April 24 2016 17:46 GMT
#29034
Slark is a really fun and interactive hero to play against. I enjoy never being able to kill a carry that also outputs huge early game damage.

I also really enjoy shitty invokers still managing to win games.

Yea every game today just was full of meta heros. I can't wait for another major on this horrible patch.
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
April 25 2016 09:57 GMT
#29035
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This game makes me mad every day...
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
BigO
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden956 Posts
April 25 2016 12:25 GMT
#29036
13 game win streak, end up losing it to a scripting Phoenix, what a life.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-25 12:58:36
April 25 2016 12:58 GMT
#29037
free win from a 5v4 turned to a 66min loss because the solo pub ta feeds them 2 rapiers xd

xd xd xd

xDDDDDDD
ffxiv enjoyer
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-25 13:57:44
April 25 2016 13:53 GMT
#29038
Two RD games in a row with no enchant counter in the pool, zzz great. In fact she's a lot like broodmother in a lot of ways. I remember when it was quite an achievement to roll a game with enchant, needed a bit of luck with starting creeps, some micro and some coordination with the laner when you ganked.

On April 24 2016 23:25 HellNino wrote:
Question: Why are mid players almost always arrogant pieces of shit?
I'm not supposed to pull you 2 tangos, when I am solo support, and there is a riki in the enemy team.
Fuck you.

I think spectre pickers are also baby ragers 90% of the time and will blame the team when the oppnents drarfted an aggro offlane. But yeah, muted mid spamming "I will purhase tangoes" are annoying as fuck, specially with the mass ping follow up.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
DonDomingo
Profile Joined October 2015
504 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-25 14:57:11
April 25 2016 14:55 GMT
#29039
A Public Match-Making Boy's Humble Plea to Future Team Mates

Dear Iван, Stefan, Hans, Lucas or whichever lovely name your parents gave you, welcome to our team. Defense of the Ancients II is a team game in which communication with your allies is at times crucial. More importantly, though, is your attitude. While you may have searched a game because you were bored and you were just looking to fuck around, running at people, screaming, dieing and seeking catharsis for your general frustrations with life by getting mad at your team mates, please, for the love of God and all that is holy, consider that some of us queue to actually play the game.

If you did queue to play the game, acquire Match-Making Rating points, improve, impress your friends, and what not, please keep in mind that flaming and blaming in-game serve no constructive purpose. At the end of the day, DotA is a complex game and even for professional players who have played with each other in a team environment for a long time being on the same page about rotations, how to engage, item choices etc can be a challenge. You may disagree with how your team mate is playing; you may even believe that particular team mate's poor decision making or execution is losing you the game - however, heed the wisdom of Marcus Aurelius*:

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change;
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.


While you can offer polite suggestions, please realize that getting mad will only serve to cloud your mind and will result in you playing worse. If you do get mad, please consider not expressing your anger, lashing out at your allies - most likely that will result in them getting mad as well, wasting attention trying to defend themselves. Just try your best to keep your head in the game.

So far, so good. A kind and focused attitude goes a long way.

Here's a little wish list of mine for in-game specifics:

Drafting | Picking Heroes:

Before even queuing, please educate yourself about how the game works. Watch professional games, good players' streams, study replays or VODs. Pick something that makes sense. There are a lot of ways to play your favorite heroes without ruining people's games! Stacking with friends of yours who do not mind you fucking around, playing with bots, playing unranked, etc.

Mechanics & Game Understanding:

Mouse precision, map awareness, keyboard mastery, last-hitting, denying, cancelling animation backswing, paying attention to frontswing, paying attention to which direction your hero is facing, paying attention to your hero's turn-rate; in short paying attention to how the game works. Educate yourself!

Tactics (Engagements) & Strategy (Game Plan):

Again, educate yourself! Do not just queue without having thoughts about these things thoroughly!



All in all. Just. Contribute to making DotA great.


Thank you --
HellNino
Profile Joined September 2011
France156 Posts
April 26 2016 09:49 GMT
#29040
When the game goes great but your team starts feeding 800 gold kills, by getting picked off alone, and complain about no team fight because we cant engage VOID SILENCER LION you fucking retard!
Oh and you know what BH? Maybe if you wanted us to teamfight maybe buy greaves instead of your shitty ECHO SABRE...
And the cherry on top: it had to happen on the one game I go 12 0 13 early on FUCKING BANE.
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