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On August 20 2012 03:29 YODA_ wrote:
Played with a pugna last game. Went ward/decrep only in a solo lane vs alch and lost. Tells me that going Q is not optimal.
On my own side.....i keep randoming huskar.....and i really enjoy the hero concept, but just do so bad. I usually end up even, but...that's not huskar lol. I think my problem is ganking. So far i do fine in mid lane, i go E/stats until 6 then get some points in Q and more stats. I just get to low-ish hp and push whoever i'm facinng out of the lane most of the timel ol. But I think my problem is ganking. Do I gank at 6? wait till i have treads and a bracer or something? i dunno. i usually end up hanging out in mid too long, I think, i've even waited for treads and armlet in one game, but I think that's way too long in mid. I can usually last hit well enough, but not spectacularly or anything, i can get a 100 in 20 minutes or so in lane most of the time.
why would you gank when you're huskar ? Farm til you can, if you see an occasion for 2kills then go, if not keep on cs
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Meh, so far this is really frustrating. Every game I play with who seem to be total imbeciles. I mean yeah, we're all super low ELO since I only have like total 40 games, but come on people, some things are just common sense. People just ignore chat, ignore pings, ignore everything on the minimap, don't try to last hit, etc. It's really infuriating.
The best thing: I actually tried to help them (important: I didn't flame a second), by calling them out and saying please do this and that, it will be better because of xy. Seems like a lot of them reported me for verbal abuse, since I'm now in the punishment pool.
Yay dota community.
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On August 20 2012 04:24 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 03:29 YODA_ wrote:
Played with a pugna last game. Went ward/decrep only in a solo lane vs alch and lost. Tells me that going Q is not optimal.
On my own side.....i keep randoming huskar.....and i really enjoy the hero concept, but just do so bad. I usually end up even, but...that's not huskar lol. I think my problem is ganking. So far i do fine in mid lane, i go E/stats until 6 then get some points in Q and more stats. I just get to low-ish hp and push whoever i'm facinng out of the lane most of the timel ol. But I think my problem is ganking. Do I gank at 6? wait till i have treads and a bracer or something? i dunno. i usually end up hanging out in mid too long, I think, i've even waited for treads and armlet in one game, but I think that's way too long in mid. I can usually last hit well enough, but not spectacularly or anything, i can get a 100 in 20 minutes or so in lane most of the time. why would you gank when you're huskar ? Farm til you can, if you see an occasion for 2kills then go, if not keep on cs
Because he snowballs super hard with levels, not items. Once you get an armlet, you can start killing underleveled heroes SUPER easy, and huskar can turn an opposing gank attempt wrong in seconds if you leave him alone in a fight. But while, sure, any hero is good with uninterrupted farm, if you're just going to play a non-ganking mid, just play invoker with sunstrike and actually be useful during that time.
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Yeah you aren't going to carry shit with an afk farm Huskar against any proper carry. You need to take advantage of his midgame and keep the enemy down on farm rather than focusing on yours.
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On August 20 2012 05:21 heishe wrote:
Meh, so far this is really frustrating. Every game I play with who seem to be total imbeciles. I mean yeah, we're all super low ELO since I only have like total 40 games, but come on people, some things are just common sense. People just ignore chat, ignore pings, ignore everything on the minimap, don't try to last hit, etc. It's really infuriating.
The best thing: I actually tried to help them (important: I didn't flame a second), by calling them out and saying please do this and that, it will be better because of xy. Seems like a lot of them reported me for verbal abuse, since I'm now in the punishment pool.
Yay dota community.
add good players you meet in pubs as friends and party queue with them, solo queue is a gamble on whether your team mates are retarded first, and your draft second.
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On August 20 2012 05:21 heishe wrote:
Meh, so far this is really frustrating. Every game I play with who seem to be total imbeciles. I mean yeah, we're all super low ELO since I only have like total 40 games, but come on people, some things are just common sense. People just ignore chat, ignore pings, ignore everything on the minimap, don't try to last hit, etc. It's really infuriating.
The best thing: I actually tried to help them (important: I didn't flame a second), by calling them out and saying please do this and that, it will be better because of xy. Seems like a lot of them reported me for verbal abuse, since I'm now in the punishment pool.
Yay dota community.
Ha, my suggestion is that take huskar/ursa pubstomp hero or lanaya etc strong mid hero and keep in mind that everyone in your team is noob ie you need to carry the whole team on your own. And then when you feel like the oppo team has crazy teamwork and it is impossible to carry game on your own anymore, you have reached at least mid level in which noobs still exist but most the players should know the basics/no leaver/no crazy feeder.
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On August 20 2012 06:34 Bash wrote:
Yeah you aren't going to carry shit with an afk farm Huskar against any proper carry. You need to take advantage of his midgame and keep the enemy down on farm rather than focusing on yours.
That's stupid. Btw I've never said that you shouldnt gank, but that you should gank only when you see a good occasion. Remember that a fail gank is a level lost and at least 15creeps. So do your maths
I think I'm not clear here. When i'm against an am/void/spectre/morph. I let him alone, not because I carry harder, but because he won't be able to do much when i'll push his base with armlet/bkb. Killing him won't do much because hard carry have all an 'reliable' escape mechanism and huskar aint that great at chasing, so most of the time, you'll waste time. You can disrupt his farm by taking towers after towers. If he doesn't defend : free tower, if he does : easy kill.
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if you're losing the lane or you already took out the first tower you can roam around a bit more, but if you're doing well in lane just win your lane harder
only gank if you see an opportunity (towerdiving, haste rune, etc), because if you can force your opponent out of lane their entire team is missing out on a huge chunk of farm
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Some anti-QQ for now:
Some guy on the opposing radiant team insta-picked lycan, and one of my teammates was pissed. He picked CM, took 4 wards, and warded the shit out of the radiant's jungle. as a result, lycan couldn't farm properly, and then somehow gave away FB. He said something and then left the game.
My team almost lost a 4v5 (later 3v5) because they decided that endless pushing (aka tower diving) was a good thing to do.
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On August 20 2012 09:53 Dead9 wrote:
if you're losing the lane or you already took out the first tower you can roam around a bit more, but if you're doing well in lane just win your lane harder
only gank if you see an opportunity (towerdiving, haste rune, etc), because if you can force your opponent out of lane their entire team is missing out on a huge chunk of farm
I once played Dota 2 with a guy whose name was Dad9, I think, and he had maxed out ping and just disconnected and abandoned after a few minutes. It wasn't owange.
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I had a bad string of games today. Every fcking game felt like I had donkey players who knew shit about the game. Zero game sense whatsoever. No one carries TPs, no one checks runes, no one fcking calls mia. Everytime I TP to farm, someone copies and follows me--WHAT THE FUCK? If I play carry, let me fcking solo farm. If youre support or roamer, go fcking walk around the map and zone out their jungle instead of wasting your time trying to last hit creeps and FAILING just so you can die again and waste time.
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On August 20 2012 10:40 Cool Cat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 09:53 Dead9 wrote:
if you're losing the lane or you already took out the first tower you can roam around a bit more, but if you're doing well in lane just win your lane harder
only gank if you see an opportunity (towerdiving, haste rune, etc), because if you can force your opponent out of lane their entire team is missing out on a huge chunk of farm I once played Dota 2 with a guy whose name was Dad9, I think, and he had maxed out ping and just disconnected and abandoned after a few minutes. It wasn't owange.
sounds like a jerk man
was it yewwow
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On August 20 2012 10:40 Heh_ wrote:
Some anti-QQ for now:
Some guy on the opposing radiant team insta-picked lycan, and one of my teammates was pissed. He picked CM, took 4 wards, and warded the shit out of the radiant's jungle. as a result, lycan couldn't farm properly, and then somehow gave away FB. He said something and then left the game.
My team almost lost a 4v5 (later 3v5) because they decided that endless pushing (aka tower diving) was a good thing to do.
Thats actually kind of badass of him.
"Fuck this fucking lycan im gonna pick maiden and wreck him."
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On August 20 2012 10:43 Emnjay808 wrote:
I had a bad string of games today. Every fcking game felt like I had donkey players who knew shit about the game. Zero game sense whatsoever. No one carries TPs, no one checks runes, no one fcking calls mia. Everytime I TP to farm, someone copies and follows me--WHAT THE FUCK? If I play carry, let me fcking solo farm. If youre support or roamer, go fcking walk around the map and zone out their jungle instead of wasting your time trying to last hit creeps and FAILING just so you can die again and waste time.
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Holy shit this faceless void I just had to play with is just too much for me. He flames Rubick (friend) for not ganking, when Void is in the safe lane with Jakiro vs enemy solo doom bringer. He is the lowest level on the team, and justifies that with "at least I helped around with ganks". He builds MoM Daedalus and dies instantly in fights because he literally has 1k hp, he trapped me and Rhasta in a chrono with enemy pudge and then goes to attack someone outside the chrono, he takes aegis when I am the most farmed Lycan in the game, he saves Rhasta at the cost of his own life, and he just never stops talking shit about players who are leagues better than him. It's just too funny. Good thing we won though. At the end my friend force staffed void into the enemy fountain for about 0.2s and he ends up losing half his hp lmao.
edit: i suppose I should justify why I picked lycan this game. It's because the enemy team had someone who randomed and got furion. This pissed me off so much and I believe it's ethically justified  Good thing too, because our team was so shitty that it would have been impossible to carry them otherwise.
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Played with a void yesterday who called solo easy lane.
i asked "Really?"
got back "yes"
3 minutes later he gives FB and leaves.
Classic.
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On August 20 2012 22:32 writer22816 wrote:Holy shit this faceless void I just had to play with is just too much for me. He flames Rubick (friend) for not ganking, when Void is in the safe lane with Jakiro vs enemy solo doom bringer. He is the lowest level on the team, and justifies that with "at least I helped around with ganks". He builds MoM Daedalus and dies instantly in fights because he literally has 1k hp, he trapped me and Rhasta in a chrono with enemy pudge and then goes to attack someone outside the chrono, he takes aegis when I am the most farmed Lycan in the game, he saves Rhasta at the cost of his own life, and he just never stops talking shit about players who are leagues better than him. It's just too funny. Good thing we won though. At the end my friend force staffed void into the enemy fountain for about 0.2s and he ends up losing half his hp lmao. edit: i suppose I should justify why I picked lycan this game. It's because the enemy team had someone who randomed and got furion. This pissed me off so much and I believe it's ethically justified Good thing too, because our team was so shitty that it would have been impossible to carry them otherwise.
No way, picking Lycan in pubs can't be justified. Pub Furion isn't as lame as pub Lycan.
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On August 20 2012 23:19 PassiveAce wrote:
Played with a void yesterday who called solo easy lane.
i asked "Really?"
got back "yes"
3 minutes later he gives FB and leaves.
Classic.
Huh, whenever I pick Void my team forces me to solo. "Well, maybe it's only 1" I hope, then Silencer and Windrunner appear.
(I swear to god, whenever I pick a carry who doesn't have a spell he/she can spam I end up against Silencer, it's like he knows where I will be.)
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On August 20 2012 10:40 Cool Cat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 09:53 Dead9 wrote:
if you're losing the lane or you already took out the first tower you can roam around a bit more, but if you're doing well in lane just win your lane harder
only gank if you see an opportunity (towerdiving, haste rune, etc), because if you can force your opponent out of lane their entire team is missing out on a huge chunk of farm I once played Dota 2 with a guy whose name was Dad9, I think, and he had maxed out ping and just disconnected and abandoned after a few minutes. It wasn't owange.
i had this experience with omgirak more than a few times
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I had to play solo Alchemist the other day against Lich and WR. I was matched up with a stack of 4 who naturally decided to ignore me completely and instead ran veno + NS long lane and pudge + CM mid. They spent the entire laning phase ganking for eachother and never coming near my lane. Somehow the game ended up going well and I did pretty good for being fucking Alchemist, but goddamn did seeing my lane make me sad.
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