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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
But thank you, I really like this project. I like guides as a reference and to give direction as well. For a lot of heroes, they are very situational, so unfortunately you have to sacrifice accuracy and/or preferences just to keep things relatively simple. In my view, core is bought in order and Extension Items is similar to Situational Items in that you can buy any of the items in no particular order. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Both skills only scale damage on ranks 2-4, and Sun Ray's % max HP pure damage scales his DPS harder against anyone who has more than ~900 HP, which most people will have by the time he's maxing his 2nd skill. This isn't even including the fact that Sun Ray also heals allies in the beam. | ||
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idonthinksobro
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On supports i feel like that a lot of standard stuff like smokes and stuff is missing and you have to search for it in the whole shop. Personally i like if there would be more emphasis on getting support stuff on supports, for example putting wards in early game, core and lategame. /E it is also easier to decide what to buy if you can visually see a couple of options. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On January 29 2014 23:53 idonthinksobro wrote: the reason i use guides is iam too lazy to type the item i want in the searchbar. If there is too much stuff missing there is no point for me using the guide. Personally i also dislike that a lot of the guides don't go past the 30 minute mark, most guides don't have a 6-slot loadout for longer games. On supports i feel like that a lot of standard stuff like smokes and stuff is missing and you have to search for it in the whole shop. Personally i like if there would be more emphasis on getting support stuff on supports, for example putting wards in early game, core and lategame. /E it is also easier to decide what to buy if you can visually see a couple of options. This was in the plans but then I got a job. See Dazzle for what I was intending to do and never got around to do it ): | ||
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
On January 30 2014 00:05 Torte de Lini wrote: This was in the plans but then I got a job. See Dazzle for what I was intending to do and never got around to do it ): dazzle guide has no medaillon  but i think i see what you are talking about | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On January 30 2014 00:09 idonthinksobro wrote: dazzle guide has no medaillon but i think i see what you are talking aboutWill add now  | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On January 29 2014 23:53 idonthinksobro wrote: the reason i use guides is iam too lazy to type the item i want in the searchbar. If there is too much stuff missing there is no point for me using the guide. Personally i also dislike that a lot of the guides don't go past the 30 minute mark, most guides don't have a 6-slot loadout for longer games. On supports i feel like that a lot of standard stuff like smokes and stuff is missing and you have to search for it in the whole shop. Personally i like if there would be more emphasis on getting support stuff on supports, for example putting wards in early game, core and lategame. /E it is also easier to decide what to buy if you can visually see a couple of options. This is fine too, but I personally think that when it's on the level of "I just can't be bothered to find the item in the shop", it takes 10 seconds to edit the guide and include the item for yourself, so that should be up to the user. As for it being easier when items are visible, that's true, I like when guides include the most prioritized options. I don't feel every viable situational item has to be there though. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
I will add support items probably next round. Make it a separate tab of misc. support items. | ||
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idonthinksobro
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Dazzle | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Boots should usually be brown boots or Arcanes if your team needs it (you usually don't need them yourself). Tranquils are also OK. There's really no reason to get Treads. Wand should move up to core, situational should include Vlad's and Necrobook. Eth Blade shouldn't even be in Extension, Halberd and Sheep should be in either category (doesn't matter which). Refresher should be extension (if you get around to buy a selfish item because all team items are covered, this is usually the one to get). | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Treads is for the extra HP given your abilities and more tankiness. Vlad's seems strange, is it just for the aura for allies? | ||
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idonthinksobro
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Germany38463 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Treads isn't really a cost-effective HP source if you don't make use of the autoattack component. Vlad's is there because pretty much every team utility item could be there situationally for him. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
For mid, is the build any different? Doesn't seem like it considering one level in Icarus is ok to initiate. I'll update in the next post. Terrorblade too | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
That's all just a guess, I could be wrong. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
His suppressive laning ability applies to off-lane as well (arguably more so because safe lane carries usually aren't equipped to Bottle-Crow and use spells to farm to make up for having no attack speed). | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
New Hero Guides Terrorblade Position: Lane Skill Build: E Q W E E R E W W W R Q Q Q (1. Metamorphosis, 2. Conjure Image, 3. Reflection) Starting Items: Tango, Healing Salve, Shield, 3x branch Early Game items: PMS, Boots, Core Items: Treads, Yasha Situational Items: Drums of Endurance, Sange & Yasha, Black King Bar Extension Items: Manta Style, Butterfly, Satanic, Monkey King Bar Phoenix Position: Middle Skill Build: Q E W W W R W E E E R Q Q Q (1. Fire Spirits, 2. Icarus Dive 3. Sun Ray) Yango approved Starting Items: Tangos, Salve, Clarity, 3 branches Early Game items: Bottle, Tranquil Boots Core Items: Arcane, Mekansm Situational Items: Urn, Necromonicon, Pipe, Ghost Scepter, Heaven's Halberd Extension Items: Heart, Scythe of Vyse, Veil, Shiva's Guard, Refresher's Orb Phoenix Position: Lane Skill Build: Q W W E W R W E E E R Q Q Q (1. Fire Spirits, 2. Icarus Dive 3. Sun Ray) Yango approved Starting Items: Tangos, Salve, 3 branches Early Game items: Boots, Wand Core Items: Tranquil Boots, Mekansm Situational Items: Urn, Necromonicon, Pipe, Ghost Scepter, Heaven's Halberd Extension Items: Heart, Veil, Scythe of Vyse, Shiva's Guard, Refresher's Orb Not final, still figuring them out - Phoenix: Yango saved my ass. Created a midlane guide despite it being typically weaker. Terrorblade: A lot harder to figure out, I prefer reflection over Metamorphosis at the beginning. His items are the hardest part. Thanks Yango for the skill build tip. Can we skip ult until level 9-10?? Item builds, sounds like Manta and S&Y are popular. Heroes remaining unchanged
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/18zN7XF.png) Here is the Utility Items tab | ||
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