In-Game Standard Hero Builds Project - Page 353

On June 01 2017 06:12 Birdie wrote:
Not sure why magic ember has maelstrom removed, it's still a fantastic item and gets picked up all the time.

I suspect with blademail no longer being amplified by magic amp that it will drop off significantly in pickups by pro players on ember and other heroes.

He should also have ring of aquila as core or early game, it's still completely standard to get that. Also needs octarine in extension items, very common to build that too. I would say radiance is one of the rarer extension items, might even need to be in situational rather than extension.

Solar crest might deserve a situational mention as well, but with the nerfs to the item and the relative rarity of it being picked up probably not.

(Possibly I'm missing items from further down as the steamcommunity.com guides don't seem to let me scroll down inside the item build. Still have to enable unsafe scripts to use the web version of the guide, too. Is there a better way to view the guide short of going into the game and selecting the hero?)
nvm using the steam client browser seems to work well.


Naga siren should have mana boots as core and disassembled for BoT and octarine, not sure how easy that is to communicate though. Also, I highly prefer E first on naga, this is how the pros build her too. I max E first but not every pro does that though.

Invoker should level Quas at level 2, and get Wex at level 6. Most pros build it this way, only I think w33ha does Wex level two but he also only gets at most two levels of Quas before maxing Wex, he basically plays Wex Exort rather than Quas Exort. Most pros get the Health talent and the Stats talent, not damage or attack speed.

PL should be getting BoTs basically every game, this item is too good to pass up on for him. Core items should be aghs diffusal, not diffusal manta. Situational should swap echo sabre for SNY or Satanic.

Add a clarity to safelane jugg starting items, super valuable for this hero's mana needs. Also, wand is very important on him because of his bad mana pool. +7 armour right now is the better talent in most games, although of course some games the attack speed is better.

Morphling should have two more branches in his starting items, he can eat with tangos to get +10 tango worth of regen rather than only +8 and the stats are really good early on. Satanic should be in extension items for him.

On June 02 2017 13:24 Birdie wrote:

I think Aquila + Veil is still good/standard.

It should be brown boots, wand, quelling blade aquila into BoT into aghs into diffusal.

Quas Exort Invoker build. Usually you get E first for damage, then either two points Q if it's a hard lane or EQE. Most pros go EQEQEW but w33ha goes EWEQ.

On June 07 2017 01:04 Velzi wrote:


Can you elaborate Luna build, why exactly u think u need 2 in E instead of maxed w 2 levels earlier (lvl 11 vs. lvl 13 maxed W).