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 Bristleback
Added Iron Branch to Starting Items
Added Healing Salve to Starting Items
Added Heaven's Halberd to Situational Items
Moved Vanguard to Early Game
Moved Solar Crest to Core Items
Moved Blade Mail to Situaitonal Items
Removed Ring of Protection
Removed Ring of Basilius
Ogre Magi
New Skill Build: W Q E E E R E W W T W R Q Q T Q R T T (1. Bloodlust 2. Ignite 3. Fireblast)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+100 Cast Range), 15 (+50 Damage), 20 (+25 Movement Speed), 25 (+40 Bloodlust AS)
Created New Tab: "Early Game"
Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game"
Added Wind Lace to "Early Game"
Moved Urn of Shadows to Situational Items
Moved Veil of Discord to Situational Items
Moved Glimmer Cape to Extension Items
Removed Rod of Atos
Ember Spirit (Core - Physical)
Added Tango to Starting Items
Removed Healing Salve
Ember Spirit (Core - Magic)
Added Quelling Blade to Core Items
Removed Maelstrom
Removed Ghost Scepter
 Venomancer
New Skill Build: E W E W E Q E R W T W R Q Q T Q R T T (1. Plague Ward 2. Poison Sting 3. Venomous Gale)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+30% XP Gain), 15 (+150 Cast Range), 20 (+75 Damage), 25 (3x Plague Ward HP/Damage)
Added Clarity to Starting Items
Added Solar Cres to Situational Items
Added Hurricane Pike to Situational Items
Added Silver Edge to Situational Items
Added Ethereal Blade to Extension Items
Added Eye of Skadi to Extension Items
Added Octarine Core to Extension Items
Moved Hand of Midas to Early Game
Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Core Items
Moved Pipe of Insight to Situational Items
Moved Guardian Greaves to Extension Items
Removed Faerie Fire
Removed Ring of Aquila
Removed Magic Wand
Removed Urn of Shadows
Removed Glimmer Cape
Removed Ghost Scepter
Removed Force Staff
SirActionSlacks (Core)
Added Assault Cuirass to Extension Items
Moved Solar Crest to Situational Items
Removed Vladmir's Offering
Abaddon
Moved Blade Mail to Situational Items
Moved Drum of Endurance to Situational Items
 Slardar
New Skill Build: W Q Q W W R W Q Q T E R E E T E R T T (1. Slithereen Crush 2. Guardian Sprint 3. Bash of the Deep)
Added Armlet of Mordiggian to Situational Items
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Moved Solar Crest to Core Items
Moved Shadow Blade to Situational Items
Removed Quelling Blade
Removed Drum of Endurance
Nature's Prophet (Core)
Nature's Prophet(Core 2)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+250 Health), 15 (+20 Intelligence), 20 (+10 Armor), 25 (-40s Respawn Time)
Added Clarity x2 to Starting Items
Added Solar Crest to Situational Items
Removed Iron Branch x2
Removed Magic Wand
Lifestealer (Core)
Added Slippers of Agility x2 to Starting Items
Added Hand of Midas to Situational Items
Removed Stout Shield
Underlord
New Talent Tree: 10 (+2 Mana Regen), 15 (+12% Spell Amplification), 20 (+60 Attack Speed), 25 (+50 Health Regen)
Added Poor Man's Shield to Starting Items
Added Solar Crest to Situational Items
Moved Observer Ward to Early Game
Removed Stout Shield
Removed Iron Branch
Removed Tango
Removed Iron Talon
Removed Clarity
Removed Rod of Atos
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Finally getting around to doing some more testing - so more adjustments will be made.
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7.06 Planning Post
Personal Notes Shrines
- Harass the offlane early on and he'll be fucked until 5 minutes
- Reducing the shrine base count was essential, I think everyone agree it was insane the number of shrines there - they should move some back so even at megas, you can regen a bit or something.
- Too bad on mana regen, but understandable.
Neutrals
- Jungling back on the menu boys, also good to see stacking is this no longer checkered thing with rune timers (3-5-7/2-4-6)
Attributes
- The attributes adjustment feels like a power-creep
- More health, more regen, more spell amp and more mana with base mana all means starting items need to be changed and I feel everyone goes up in importance (nukers and laning)
Economy
- This is going way over my head. I'm getting a sense of the goals here but can't grasp its overall effects
General Changes
- The Illusion gold change is another attempt to punish late-game illusion heroes - I don't think it'll be enough though
- Roshan dropping cheese at two is curious
- Powerup Runes at 40 minutes is a nice change, interesting how that'll affect things
Talents
- HOLY SHIT, THATS INSANE
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 >WAOW
- This is a nice alteration
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 The one thing Lina doesn't need, but maybe people will appreciate it and choose different boots type (or the Chinese will stop going Shadow Blade -> NAH)
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 epic sniping
- AWESOME! I would love to see some Radiance + Octarine builds with this new talent
- Much more applicable
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 yes, very nice
- tapering off from the one thing he could, now he's back and looking good
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 auto-talent
- wow, more regen with Howl? oof
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 definitely curious, maybe Visage core?
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 thats pretty wild stuff to get him back into a glorified role
- this is just great, maybe to be adjusted next patch
- AT LEVEL 15!
- IceFrog wants this guy to be more core, good god
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 this should be interesting
- haha ok wow
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 yes, this is great - I don't thnk it'll help him all that much later on unless with the right line-up, but its still a nice talent, just very late as Jakiro seldom hits 25
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 very strong
- That's too OP, I don't like this at all. That's insane, but not as good as the respawn talent
- meh
- with Midas? Jesus
- this is hilariously curious
Item Changes
- Aether Lens: Way more relevant, way more desirable
- Blade Mail: still not enough
- Daedalus: definitely needs more to be distinguished because of good Bloodthorn is
- Dagon: good value
- Demon Edge: Huge change, makes Daedalus a much cheaper and alternative option
- Desolator: This was inevitable
- Force Staff: this is to put it on par with how universal Force Staff has been bought rather than it used to be mainly for int. heroes - this was long overdue
- Hand of Midas: I knew this. I called it all over Kiev, I said Hand of Midas was too much
- Heart of Tarrasque: let's wipe out the need for recipes imo
- Finally, even more reason to get Halberd. Can't cast it after BKB, but now you can do it before - this was the primary reason nobody went for this shit when you need something to go through BKB
- Helm of the Dominator: yeah situational still, meh.
- Mask of Madness: Wow, skyrocketed to the top once more. It being disassemble-abled is crazy awesome and I'm excited to see it become standard on a lot of heroes
- Solar Crest: Here to stay it seems and now with an even better late-game value
- Necromonicon: nah, needs more still
- Radiance: Needs to be more expensive, it's too easy to get this with all the new gold approaches
- Rod of Atos: it just isn't doing enough to be honest, its effect is sub-par even though the stats are quite awesome. I see it's trying to be the new Force Staff with its universal value for supports or roamers, but I'm not convinced yet
- Sange & Yasha make an even more prominent gain! First Sange changes now this
- IceFrog still trying to make Silver Edge gained later, but without the stats to follow
- Soul Ring: nice, I like this. Dark Seer loves this
- Urn of Shadows: Okay, that's fucking interesting. This is the most interesting thing I've read for item changes
Hero Changes
- good
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 yes, I like this a lot but it feels counter-counter-counter intuitive to the Blade Mail, Berserker's Call standard combo
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 The Oracle effect
- +1 Boar is necessary
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 I think we are all scared of overbuffing Bloodseeker directly and merely trying to improve his weaker known areas
- I expect Bristle to be top pick
- way overdue, Chen needs more though. The cooldown reduction was an unncessary roadblock though
- once upon a time, her ultimate was forgotten - now it's insanely strong
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 dark days for DS
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 Jesus Christ, so core beyond belief
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 I like these buffs a lot. The healing on Scorched Earth still insane and Devour mana cost is nice. The critical strike removed from small wolves was nice considering it always fucked you up if you mis-clicked
- Desolator, Skadi, Satanic?
- I'll remove Aghs
- nice touch
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 Hm, I see they're trying to make Enchantress a situational first-skill max hero that can either max anything depending on the line-up or strategy: pushing, ganking or offlane/farming. This will be tough.
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 everyone has given up on him
- nice
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 call me a pleb, but this is what I disliked most about Kunkka was that the ship never went where I wanted and that it was always coming from behind. I like this a lot, but I can see some veterans feels bothered by it
- That's an interesting Aghs. Very interesting, not sure if worth it but I'm thinking small - it could very well compensate instead of BKB somehow
- meh, im cautious
- Magnus still first-pick material, these changes are very curious
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 yeah, that's sick! but doesn't prioritize heroes
- he had such a huge power-spike with Basher. Now, I'm not so sure. I'm not sure how this hero will work out and I wish his Command was more team-oriented that provided team-bonuses. This armor addition and removal of bonus damage pushes him to be comfortable to do more...
- really wants Meka back
- I love this change the most, it really adds to Night Stalker's main role without seeming overpowered. I would have been okay if this was an Aghs effect, but it comes right out the game - very cool, justifies an early 6 ult too
- yeah, the changes to Fate's Edict made this hero questionable still to me at least
- situational aghs. Could be great to keep an enemy locked out for so long
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 Rush still not toggleable but at least they changed the bonus agi.
- this just a nice change that let's users be a little more casual with their fire spirits instead of feeling the next to land each one immediately after one another otherwise you lose out.
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 yes, True Sight - nice. Helps when you feel like you're fucked every time Riki fucks you.
- interesting
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 so Wind Lace + Phase is necessary
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 The Soul Catcher change is massive but also a buff of this size was also overdue
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 ok wow
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 still trying eh? i'm curious if this new aghs will help at all. Seems good, but it's a huge ways to go after this item. Could be worth it late-game
- among the peculiar changes ever. I don't really know how to make of this
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 Mana cost is still too high late-game
- the guise to root change is necessary as the bash was beyond aggravating for players. But I'm fearful it'll kill Treant Protector in some match-ups that made him great to have around during the laning phase
- I hope this is enough, I hope Aghs first becomes a thing
- still incredibly strong in-lane
- wow... wtf?
- the aghs True Sight thing is incredible. I love this change so much and think it's great. I think WD somehow fell out of favour in the shuffle of new patches and glad to see him get some newfound attention
Misc.
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Actual Schedule (CET)
Day 1
- 6:00-7:30PM: Reading Patch Notes and Setting up post formats, posting notes
- 7:30-9PM: Dinner/Movie
- 9-11:30PM: Reading Patch Notes, listening to Capitalist's analysis and finalizing initial thoughts
Day 2
delayed
Day 3
- 12:00-1:30PM: Drafted Talent Changes
- 1:30-5:00PM: Drafted Hero Skill Build Changes
- 5:00-7:00PM: Drafted Item Build Changes
Day 4
- 4:30-9:30PM: Initial Revision of Applied Changes
Day 5
- 8:30-11:30AM: Finalization of Applied Changes
- 4:00-5:00PM: Feedback and Publsihing
- 5:00-6:30PM: Public Cataloging
Total Elapsed Time: 23 Hours
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/sq5SU7N.png) New color for patch 7.06 (Grapefruit-Pastel)
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Is it finally time for Diffusal Drow? (E) This patch changes Drow's itemization (blight stone?) but I don't think it changes skill builds.
I'm skeptical that a 15 gold price cut means so many more heroes want Drums. Is there another reason to reconsider it?
Urn changes mean Raindrops are early game rather than situational on Spirit Breaker, building into urn.
Soul Ring changes mean some Soul Ring heroes should start with a Mango. Broodmother, Clinkz, Dark Seer (replacing Obs Ward or Tango), Omniknight etc... Enigma has the budget to start Sage's Mask instead.
Troll - I think Vlad's is the correct lifesteal choice if you're ditching HotD.
Witch Doctor - I find the Voodoo value point critical in lane; skipping it for more Maledict is for roaming builds only.
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Octarine radiance bristleback with that 10% spell lifesteal and kotl is really really strong!
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Draft changes updated.
Next few days is the full update
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Under the circumstances where Shadow Demon can afford Refresher, Shadow Demon doesn't want Refresher EXCEPT as a 7th slot.
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The .5 sec ministun talent on zeus is really good actually. Definitely prefer it to the arc lightning dmg.
Lina +50dmg > 40 movespeed
Windrunner defnitely wants the windrun invis and 30% cd reduction
Lastly, earthshaker +50dmg and +40 echo dmg is the right build.
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Applied Changes: May 19 (11:30 CET)
Actual Schedule (CET)Day 1- 6:00-7:30PM: Reading Patch Notes and Setting up post formats, posting notes - 7:30-9PM: Dinner/Movie - 9-11:30PM: Reading Patch Notes, listening to Capitalist's analysis and finalizing initial thoughts Day 2delayedDay 3- 12:00-1:30PM: Drafted Talent Changes - 1:30-5:00PM: Drafted Hero Skill Build Changes - 5:00-7:00PM: Drafted Item Build Changes Day 4- 4:30-9:30PM: Initial Revision of Applied Changes Day 5- 8:30-11:30AM: Finalization of Applied Changes - 4:00-5:00PM: Feedback and Publsihing - 5:00-6:30PM: Public Cataloging & Announcement Total Elapsed Time: 23 Hours
Total changes made: 250 approx. changes
70 Guides applied
85 Guides remain unchanged
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Ancient Apparition
New Talent Tree: 11 (+60 Gold/Min), 15 (+30 Health Regen), 20 (+8% Ice Vortex Slow/Resistance), 25 (+100 Chilling Touch Damage)
Moved Aether Lens to Extension Items
Moved Rod of Atos to Extension Items
Axe (Offlane)
Axe (Jungle)
Added Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
Moved Lotus Orb to Situational Items
 Batrider
Added Smoke of Deceit to Utility Items
Added Linken's Sphere to Situational Items
Bane
Added Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
Removed Necromonicon - Level 3
Beastmaster (Offlane)
Beastmaster (Offlane)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+20% XP Gain), 15 (+1 Boar Summoned), 20 (12% Cooldown Reduction), 25 (+120 Damage)
Added Heaven's Halberd to Situational Items
Moved Vladmir's Offering to Situational Items
Moved Solar Crest to Extension Items
Moved Pipe of Insight to Extension Items
Removed Helm of the Dominator
Brewmaster (Core)
Brewmaster (Offlane)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+30 Attack Speed), 15 (+75 Thunder Clap Damage), 20 (+2s Thunderclap Slow), 25 (+120 Damage)
Added Hand of Midas to Early Game
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Core Items
Moved Vladmir's Offering to Situaitonal Items
Moved Heaven's Halberd to Extension Items
Bristleback
New Talent Tree: 10 (+2 Mana Regen), 15 (+225 Health), 20 (+10% Spell Lifesteal), 25 (+30 Health Regen)
Added Clarity to Starting Items
Removed Aghanim's Scepter
 Broodmother
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Chaos Knight
New Skill Build: Q W Q W Q W Q W E T R R E E T E R T T (1. Chaos Bolt 2. Reality Rift 3. Chaos Strike)
Added Iron Branch to Starting Items
Added Hand of Midas to Situational Items
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Added Butterfly to Extension Items
Moved Manta Style to Core Items
Moved Echo Sabre to Situational Items
Moved Heaven's Halberd to Extension Items
Chen
New Talent Tree: 10 (+125 Cast Range), 15 (-10s Test of Faith Cooldown), 20 (+1000 Creep Health), 25 (+200 Hand of God Heal)
Moved Solar Crest to Extension Items
Removed Helm of the Dominator
 Clockwerk
New Talent Tree: 11 (+200 Mana), 15 (+75 Rocket Flare Damage), 20 (+40 Battery Assault Damage), 25 (+400 Health)
Moved Solar Crest to Extension Items
Removed Observer Ward
Dark Seer
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Removed Observer Ward
Dazzle
New Talent Tree: 10 (+10 Intelligence), 15 (+100 Cast Range), 20 (+25 Poison Touch DPS), 25 (+60 Shadow Wave Heal)
Added Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Situational Items
Moved Solar Crest to Core Items
Removed Medallion of Courage
 Disruptor
New Talent Tree: 10 (+60 Gold/Min), 15 (-3s Kinetic Field Cooldown), 20 (+400 Health), 25 ()
Added Tranquil Boots to Core Items
Added Urn of Shadows to Core Items
Moved Rod of Atos to Situational Items
Moved Glimmer Cape to Extension Items
Removed Arcane Boots
Doom (Offlane)
New Skill Build: Q W W Q W R W E Q T Q R E E T E R T T (1. Scorched Earth 2. Devour 3. Infernal Blade)
Moved Hand of Midas to Core Items
Removed Magic Wand
Doom (Jungle)
Added Tango to Starting Items
Moved Guardian Greaves to Extension Items
Removed Healing Slave
Removed Ring of Basilius
Removed Boots of Travel
Drow Ranger
New Skill Build: E Q E Q E R W E Q T Q R W W T W R T T (1. Precision Aura 2. Frost Arrows 3. Gust)
Added Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Situational Items
Added Monkey King Bar to Extension Items
Added Desolator to Extension Items
Moved Wraith Band to Starting Items
Removed Ring of Protection
Removed Iron Branch
Removed Circlet of Nobility
Removed Healing Salve
Removed Daedalus
Earthshaker
New Skill Build: Q W E Q Q R Q E E T E R W W T W R T T (1. Fissure 2. Aftershock 3. Enchant Totem)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+250 Mana), 15 (+50 Damage), 20 (+40 Echo Damage), 25 (-2s Enchant Totem Cooldown)
Added Boots of Speed to Starting Items
Added Silver Edge to Extension Items
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Moved Shadow Blade to Core Items
Moved Force Staff to Extension Items
Removed Observer Ward x2
Removed Wind Lace
Removed Utility Items
Removed Refresher Orb
Earth Spirit
New Talent Tree: 11 (+10 Intelligence), 15 (+90 Gold/Min), 20 (+15% Spell Amplification), 25 (Geomagnetic Grip Targets Allies)
Added Refresher Orb to Extension Items
Elder Titan
New Talent Tree: 10 (+200 Mana), 15 (+275 Health), 20 (+12% Magic Resistance), 25 (+15 Armor)
Enchantress
New Talent Tree: 10 (+6 All Stats), 15 (+50 Damage), 20 (+60 Untouchable Slow), 25 (+6% Impetus Damage)
Added Boots of Speed to Starting Items
Moved Hand of Midas to Core Items
Moved Drum of Endurance to Situational Items
Removed Wind Lace
Removed Iron Branch x2
Removed Hurricane Pike
 Enigma
New Talent Tree: 10 (+12% Magic Resistance), 15 (15% Cooldown Reduction), 20 (+1 Malefice Instance), 25 (+8 Demonic Conversion Eidolons)
Added Boots of Speed to Starting Items
Added Tango to Starting Items
Added Arcane Boots to Core Items
Moved Hand of Midas to Core Items
Removed Animal Courier
Removed Observer Ward
IO
New Skill Build: 11 (+6 Armor), 15 (+10 Mana Regen), 20 (+20 Health Regen), 25 (Tether Stuns)
Jakiro
New Skill Build: Q E W E E R E W W W T R Q Q T Q R T T (1. Liquid Fire 2. Ice Path 3. Dual Breath)
New Talent Tree: 11 (+8% Spell Amplification), 15 (+125 Cast Range), 20 (+400 Attack Range), 25 (Macropyre Pure and Pierces Spell Immunity)
Added Clarity to Starting Items
Added Tranquil Boots to Core Items
Added Glimmer Cape to Situational Items
Removed Arcane Boots
Removed Observer Ward
Keeper of the Light
New Talent Tree: 10 (+20 Movement Speed), 15 (+300 Chakra Magic Mana), 20 (+10% Magic Resistance), 25 (+200 Illuminate Damage/Heal)
Kunkka (Support)
Added Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
Removed Drum of Endurance
Legion Commander (Core)
Legion Commander (Offlane)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+7 Strength), 15 (+30 Damage), 20 (+10% Moment Proc Chance), 25 (-8 Press the Attack Cooldown)
Added Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
Removed Heart of Tarrasque
Lina (Core)
New Talent Tree: 11 (+80 Light Strike Array Damage), 15 (+50 damage), 20 (+150 Attack Range), 25 (+40/4% Fiery Soul Per Stack)
Lina (Support)
New Talent Tree: 11 (+125 Cast Range), 15 (+50 damage), 20 (+6% Spell Amplification), 25 (-4s Dragon Slave Cooldown)
Lion
New Skill Build: Q W Q E Q R Q E E T E R W W T W R T T (1. Earth Spike 2. Mana Drain 3. Hex)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+75 Cast Range), 15 (+90 Gold/Min), 20 (+8% Spell Amplification), 25 (+3 Mana Drain Multi Target)
Lone Druid (Core/Range)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+175 Attack Range), 15 (+50 Damage), 20 (+12 Spirit Bear Armor), 25 (-10s Savage Roar Cooldown)
Lone Druid (Jungle/Radiance)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+250 Health), 15 (+50 Spirit Bear Damage), 20 (+12 Spirit Bear Armor), 25 (+1.5s Entangle Duration)
 Luna
New Skill Build: E Q Q W Q R Q W W T W R E E T E R T T (1. Lucent Beam 2. Moon Glaive 3. Lunar Blessing)
Created New Tab: "Situational Items"
Added Mask of Madness to Core Items
Added Infused Raindrop to "Situational Items"
Added Helm of the Dominator to "Situational Items"
Added Linken's Sphere to "Situational Items"
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Added Monkey King Bar to Extension Items
Moved Hurricane Pike to "Situational Items"
Removed Assault Cuirass
Lycan (Jungle)
New Skill Build: Q E E Q E R Q Q E T W R W W T W R T T (1. Summon Wolves 2. Feral Impulse 3. Howl)
Added Power Treads to Core Items
Moved Boots of travel to Extension Items
Removed Heart of Tarrasque
Magnus
New Talent Tree: 10 (+15% Spell Amplification), 15 (+90 Gold/Min), 20 (+10% Empower Damage/Cleave), 25 (+500 Skewer Range)
Added Arcane Boots to Core Items (Middle)
Removed Power Treads
Medusa
New Talent Tree: 10 (+15 Damage), 15 (+20 Attack Speed), 20 (+600 Mana), 25 (25% Lifesteal)
Added Wraith Band to Starting Items
Added Iron Talon to Situational Items
Removed Healing Salve
Removed Iron Branch x2
Removed Circlet of Nobility
Removed Drum of Endurance
Monkey King (Core)
Added Slippers of Agility x2 to Starting Items
Added Poor Man's Shield to Early Game
Moved Phase Boots to Early Game
Moved Ring of Aquila to Core Items
Moved Silver Edge to Extension Items
Removed Orb of Venom
Removed Clarity
Removed Skull Basher
Monkey King (Roamer)
Added Medallion of Courage to Core Items
Moved Echo Sabre to Core Items
Moved Solar Crest to Core Items
Moved Silver Edge to Extension Items
Removed Iron Branch x2
Removed Magic Wand
Removed Skull Basher
Removed Abyssal Blade
Nature's Prophet (Core)
Nature's Prophet (Core2)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+250 Health), 15 (+20 Intelligence), 20 (+10 Armor), 25 (Removed Teleportation Cooldown)
Oracle
New Talent Tree: 10 ( +0.75s Fortune's End Max Duration), 15 (+60 Gold/Min), 20 (+25 Movement Speed), 25 (+250 Cast Range)
Puck
Added Tango to Starting Items
Removed Faerie Fire
Removed Iron Branch
Phoenix (Support)
Phoenix (Offlane)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+20% XP Gain), 15 (+65 Fire Spirits DPS), 20 (+8 Spell Amplification), 25 (+2 Supernova Hit Count)
Moved Hand of Midas to Core Items
Queen of Pain
New Talent Tree: 10 (+25 Damage), 15 (12% Cooldown Reduction), 20 (+100 Attack Range), 25 (550 AoE Shadow Strike)
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Added Shiva's Guard to Extension Items
Added Assault Cuirass to Extension Items
Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Situational Items
Removed Aghanim's Scepter
Removed Eye of Skadi
Riki
Added Phase Boots to Core Items
Removed Tranquil Boots
Sand King
New Talent Tree: 11 (+5 Armor), 15 (-50 Epicenter Attack Slow), 20 (+120 Gold/Min), 25 (+50 Health Regen)
Silencer (Core)
New Skill Build: W Q Q E Q R Q W W T W R E E T E R T T (1. Arcane Curse 2. Glaives of Wisdom 3. Last Word)
Added Tango to Starting Items
Added Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
Removed Faerie Fire
Removed Iron Branch x2
Removed Dragon Lance
Removed Eye of Skadi
Removed Scythe of Vyse
Silencer (Support)
Added Hand of Midas to Core Items
Moved Rod of Atos to Core Items
Moved Glimmer Cape Situational Items
Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items
Shadow Demon
New Talent Tree: 10 (+10 Movement Speed), 15 (+75 Cast Range), 20 ( -1.5s Shadow Poison Cooldown), 25 (+400 Demonic Purge Damage)
Shadow Shaman
New Talent Tree: 10 (+25 Movement Speed), 15 (+35% EXP Gain), 20 (+4 Wards Summoned), 25 (+1 Serpent Wards Attack HP)
Spirit Breaker
New Talent Tree: 10 (+5 All Stats), 15 (+20 Damage), 20 (+30% Greater Bash Damage), 25 (+17% Greater Bash Chance)
Sven
Added Satanic to Extension Items
Removed Quelling Blade
Removed Heart of Tarrasque
Templar Assassin
New Talent Tree: 10 (+25 Attack Speed), 15 (+6 All Stats), 20 (+40 Damage), 25 (-8 Meld Armor Reduction)
Tidehunter
Added Clarity x2 to Starting Items
Added Iron Branch x2 to Starting Items
Added Quelling Blade to Starting Items
Added Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
Removed Octarine Core
Underlord
Added Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
Removed Scythe of Vyse
Venomancer
New Talent Tree: 10 (+30% XP Gain), 15 (+150 Cast Range), 20 (+75 Damage), 25 (+14% Poison Sting Slow)
Visage
New Talent Tree: 10 (+90 Gold/Min), 15 (+50 Damage), 20 (Soul Assumption Double Strike), 25 (+120 Familiars Movement Speed)
Added Bloodthorn to Extension Items
Removed Rod of Atos
 Viper
Moved Silver Edge to Core Items (Mid - Aggro)
Moved Manta Style to Situational Items
Moved Sange & Yasha to Extension Items
Removed Maelstrom
Warlock (Core)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+20% XP Gain), 15 (+150 Cast Range), 20 (Summons a Golem on Death), 25 (+15 Chaotic Offering Golems Armor)
Warlock (Support)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+20% XP Gain), 15 (+150 Cast Range), 20 (Summons a Golem on Death), 25 (+15 Chaotic Offering Golems Armor)
Added Mekansm to Core Items
Added Guardian Greaves to Extension Items
Moved Solar Crest to Extension Items
Removed Urn of Shadows
Removed Vladmir's Offering
Removed Boots of Travel
Windranger (Offlane)
Windranger (Core)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+4 Mana Regen), 15 (+20 Intelligence), 20 (Windrun grants Invisiblity), 25 (+30% Cooldown Reduction)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+25% XP Gain), 15 (+2 Cask Bounces), 20 (+15% Magic Resistance), 25 (+175 Death Ward Attack Range)
Wraith King
New Talent Tree: 10 (+15 Damage), 15 (+50 Wraithfire Blast DPS), 20 (+40 Attack Speed), 25 (Reincarnation Casts Wraithfire Blast)
Moved Hand of Midas to Early Game
Moved Desolator to Core Items (Safe Lane)
Removed Quelling Blade
Removed Maelstrom
Zeus
New Talent Tree: 10 (+2 Mana Regen), 15 (+15% Magic Resistance), 20 (+0.5s Lightning Bolt Ministun), 25 (+200 Cast Range)
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TA prolly wants LVL 2 traps around 12-14,u should have Deso + Blink ready around the same time so extra range is not that important anymore, instead trap cooldown and trap count are far better at lvl2 and lvl3 compared to lvl1 trap. I get having trap lvl2 @lvl16 is most used in dotabuff but i think thats most of the time wrong approach.
Mid WR Prolly wants to take powershot first (well honestly u wanna keep the point until u need it) to secure ranged last hit + lvl1 nuke is massive. Windrun is prolly safer option but who ganks mid lvl1 these days? no one.
Enigma, i thought having one point in Midnight Pulse lvl2 or lvl4 was a thing but i guess not. s4 did take midnight pulse lvl8/lvl9 in Kiev so again not 100% sure what u wanna do here.
CK value point in E seems little off, i dont have data but its such a bad skill to have value point in, 12% chance 125% crit is like 3% damage increase (0,12x1,25) + 0,88 = 1,03, which is virtually nothing. One more level in stun or rift is going to net u more damage almost always, and lifesteal is pretty much nothing that early on.
TB might want double regen start, it does slow down PMS so not sure.
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On May 19 2017 02:17 Velzi wrote:
TA prolly wants LVL 2 traps around 12-14,u should have Deso + Blink ready around the same time so extra range is not that important anymore, instead trap cooldown and trap count are far better at lvl2 and lvl3 compared to lvl1 trap. I get having trap lvl2 @lvl16 is most used in dotabuff but i think thats most of the time wrong approach.
Mid WR Prolly wants to take powershot first (well honestly u wanna keep the point until u need it) to secure ranged last hit + lvl1 nuke is massive. Windrun is prolly safer option but who ganks mid lvl1 these days? no one.
Enigma, i thought having one point in Midnight Pulse lvl2 or lvl4 was a thing but i guess not. s4 did take midnight pulse lvl8/lvl9 in Kiev so again not 100% sure what u wanna do here.
CK value point in E seems little off, i dont have data but its such a bad skill to have value point in, 12% chance 125% crit is like 3% damage increase (0,12x1,25) + 0,88 = 1,03, which is virtually nothing. One more level in stun or rift is going to net u more damage almost always, and lifesteal is pretty much nothing that early on.
TB might want double regen start, it does slow down PMS so not sure.
Traps overall are great, but underused so we delay them.
ok
nah not any more due to how the jungle is restructued
ill take a look
should be fine
On May 16 2017 22:34 bdonballer wrote:
Octarine radiance bristleback with that 10% spell lifesteal and kotl is really really strong!
yup, on it
agreed
On May 18 2017 06:37 Buckyman wrote:
Under the circumstances where Shadow Demon can afford Refresher, Shadow Demon doesn't want Refresher EXCEPT as a 7th slot.
you're right
On May 18 2017 22:34 bdonballer wrote:
The .5 sec ministun talent on zeus is really good actually. Definitely prefer it to the arc lightning dmg.
Lina +50dmg > 40 movespeed
Windrunner defnitely wants the windrun invis and 30% cd reduction
Lastly, earthshaker +50dmg and +40 echo dmg is the right build.
Agree on all.
Zeus: The ministun is situational, but I feel it's one of those: better safe than sorry talent points.
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to-do:
Jakiro: Max E -> Q before W (1 value-point)
Adjust Lina (Support) Talent Tree
Magnus: aghs?
Windranger: review item build
Silencer (Core/Support): Review
Bane: soul ring situation
Enigma: Fix Starting Items + Offlane?
Visage: Mid Core?
Medusa: check talent tree
Venomancer: look at starting items
Omni Core: Re-evaluate build
Viper Skill build
mirana feedback
Monkey King: Itemization + Talent
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stats tomorrow - small to-do list after
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velzi is correct about the ck crit point; 440 is pretty much always better. the last point in rift is especially important due to the cd decrease, and i'd argue 340 to 440 should be the standard build
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