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Left 4 Dead 2: Luna new DLC confirmed
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Phoenix seems to be sitting on the exact opposite talent build (+health, +gpm, +armor, +stun duration vs +xp, +spirit dmg, +spell amp, +hits to kill)
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ill note it down as things to do - just a tad busy with an upcoming brand launch
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when is cybersport.com or w/e launching anyway?
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On May 28 2017 07:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
when is cybersport.com or w/e launching anyway?
Before Epicenter at the very least.
I've been busy with ESforce, signing the papers for my new apartment (after 8 months living in temporary apartments across 3-4 countries) and a few other things.
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 Luna
Added Wraith Band to Starting Items
Removed Iron Branch x2
Removed Healing Salve
Removed Circlet of Nobility
Phoenix (Support)
Phoenix (Offlane
New Talent Tree: 10 (+20% XP Gain), 15 (+65 Fire Spirits DPS), 20 (+8% Spell Amplification), 25 (+2 Supernova Hit Count)
Ember Spirit (Core/Magic)
Removed Blade Mail
Juggernaut
Added Slipper of Agility x2 to Starting Items
Added Clarity to Starting Items
Added Magic Wand to Core Items
Removed Enchanted Mango
Removed Poor Man's Shield
Removed Iron Branch x2
 Phantom Lancer
New Talent Tree: 10 (+20 Attack Speed), 15 (+8 All Stats), 20 (15% Evasion), 25 (+20 Strength)
Created New Tab: "Core Items (Aggressive)"
Added Hand of Midas to Situational Items
Added Sange & Yasha to Situational Items
Added Monkey King Bar to Extension Items
Moved Aghanim's Scepter to "Core Items (Aggressive)"
Moved Boots of Travel to "Core Items (Aggressive)"
Removed Echo Sabre
 Shadow Shaman
New Talent Tree: 10 (+25 Movement Speed), 15 (+35% XP Gain), 20 (+4 Wards Summoned), 25 (+350 Ether Shock Damage)
Added Lotus Orb to Extension Items
Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Core Items
Moved Force Staff to Extension Items
Moved Blink Dagger to Core Items
Removed Observer Ward
Naga Siren (Core)
New Skill Build: E Q E Q E Q E Q W T E E W W T W R T T (1. Rip Tide 2. Mirror Image 3. Ensnare)
Added Arcane Boots to Early Game
Vengeful Spirit (Support)
Added Pipe of Insight to Situational Items
Added Linken's Sphere to Situational Items
Added Heaven's Halberd to Extension Items
Necrophos
Added Phase Boots to Core Items (Aggressive)
Added Dagon - Level 5 to Extension Items
Removed Power Treads
Removed Boots of Travel
Sand King
New Skill Build: Q E Q W Q R Q E E E T R W W T W R T T (1. Burrowstrike 2. Caustic Finale 3. Sand Storm)
New Talent Tree: 11 (+5 Armor), 15 (+50 Sand Storm DPS), 20 (+120 Gold/Min), 25 (+50 Health Regen)
Added Pipe of Insight to Situational Items
Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Core Items
Moved Force Staff to Extension Items
Removed Aether Lens
Chaos Knight
New Skill Build: Q W Q W Q R Q W W T E R E E T E R T T (1. Chaos Bolt 2. Reality Rift 3. Chaos Strike)
Moved Echo Sabre to Core Items
 Huskar
Moved Black King Bar to Core Items
Moved Heaven's Halberd to Extension Items
Lifestealer (Jungle)
Added Stout Shield to Starting Items
Added Ring of Protection to Starting Items
Added Quelling Blade to Starting Items
Added Hand of Midas to Situational Items
Removed Poor Man's Shield
 Silencer (Core)
New Skill Build: W Q Q E Q R Q W W T W R W W T W R T T (1. Arcane Curse 2. Last Word 3. Glaives of Wisdom)
Added Magic Wand to Early Game
Added Moon Shard to Extension Items
Added Scythe of Vyse to Extension Items
Added Linken's Sphere to Situational Items
Moved Hand of Midas to Core Items
Moved Hurricane Pike to Core Items
Removed Bottle
Removed Assault Cuirass
Removed Veil of Discord
Silencer (Support)
Created New Tab: "Luxury Items"
Added Tranquil Boots to Core Items
Added Urn of Shadows to Situational Items
Added Linken's Sphere to Situational Items
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Added Solar Crest to Extension Items
Moved Hand of Midas to Situational Items
Moved Veil of Discord to Situational Items
Moved Glimmer Cape to Extension Items
Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Luxury Items
Moved Refresher Orb to Luxury Items
Moved Scythe of Vyse to Luxury Items
Removed Power Treads
Removed Mekansm
 Bloodseeker (Core)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+25 Damage), 15 (+30 Attack Speed), 20 (+10 All Stats), 25 (-7s Bloodrite Cooldown)
Added Slippers of Agility x2 to Starting Items
Added Magic Wand to Early Game
Added Phase Boots to Early Game
Added Blade Mail to Core Items
Added Hand of Midas to Situational Items
Added Butterfly to Extension Items
Removed Power Treads
Removed Stout Shield
 Kunkka (Support)
Created New Tab: "Early Game"
Added Boots of Speed to Early Game
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Moved Urn of Shadows to Early Game
Moved Lotus Orb to Situational Items
Removed Veil of Discord
Kunkka (Core)
New Skill Build: W Q W E W R W Q Q T Q R E E T E R T T (1. Tidebringer 2. Torrent 3. X Marks the Spot)
Abaddon
Moved Blade Mail to Core Items (Radiance)
Bloodseeker (Jungle)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+25 Damage), 15 (+7 Blood Rite Damage), 20 (+14% Rupture Damage), 25 (-7s Bloodrite Cooldown)
Added Blade Mail to Situational Items
Added Octarine Core to Extension Items
Removed Wind Lace
Removed Ethereal Blade
Removed Abyssal Blade
 Razor
New Skill Build: W E W Q W Q W Q Q T R R E E T E R T T (1. Static Link 2. Plasma Field 3. Unstable Current)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+15 Agility), 15 (+175 Cast Range), 20 (+400 Health), 25 (+175 Attack Range)
Created New Tab: "Starting Items (Safe Lane)"
Created New Tab: "Early Game (Safe Lane)"
Added Wind Lace to Starting Items (Safe Lane)
Added Tango to Starting Items (Safe Lane)
Added Healing Salve to Starting Items (Safe Lane)
Added Iron Branch x2 to Starting Items (Safe Lane)
Added Boots of Speed to Early Game (Safe Lane)
Added Ring of Aquila to Early Game (Safe Lane)
Added Magic Wand to Core Items
Added Hand of Midas to Situational Items
Added Butterfly to Extension Items
 Jakiro
New Skill Build: Q E Q E E W E W R T W R W Q T Q R T T (1. Liquid Fire 2. Ice Path 3. Dual Breath)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+25% XP Gain), 15 (+125 Cast Range), 20 (+150 Gold/Min), 25 (+1.25s Ice Path Duration)
Added Hand of Midas to Situational Items
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Moved Force Staff to Extension Items
Removed Wind Lace
Removed Veil of Discord
 [urlhttp://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=129067853]Lina (Support)[/url]
New Talent Tree: 10 (+125 Cast Range), +15 (+50 Damage), 20 (+150 Attack Range), 25 (+40/4% Fiery Soul per Stack)
Added Force Staff to Extension Items
Added Mjollnir to Extension Items
Removed Hurricane Pike
Removed Veil of Discord
 Medusa
New Talent Tree: 10 (+12 Intelligence), 15 (15% Evasion), 20 (+600 Mana), 25 (25% Lifesteal)
Moved Linken's Sphere to Core Items
 Venomancer
New Skill Build: E W E Q E W E R W T W R Q Q T Q R T T (1. Plague Ward 2. Poison Sting 3. Venomous Gale)
 Viper
New Skill Build: Q W Q E E R E E W T W R W Q T Q T T (1. Corrosive Skin 2. Nethertoxin 3. Poison Attack)
New Talent Tree:
Added Dragon Lance to Core Items (Mid - Tank)
Added Shadow Blade to Core Items (Mid - Aggro)
Added Hand of Midas to Situational Items
Added Monkey King Bar to Extension Items
Added Bloodthorn to Extension Items
Moved Blade Mail to Core Items (Tank)
Removed Healing Salve
Removed Mekansm
Removed Eye of Skadi
Dragon Knight
Added Hand of Midas to Situational Items
Added Blade Mail to Situational Items
Added Heaven's Halberd to Situational Items
Removed Helm of the Dominator
Monkey King (Core)
Added Shadow Blade to Core Items
Removed Ring of Aquila
Renamed Offlane
Treant Protector
Created New Tab: "Early Game"
New Talent Tree: 10 (+2 Mana Regen), 15 (+90 Gold/Min), 20 (15% Cooldown Reduction), 25 (+40 Leech Seed Damage/Heal)
Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game"
Added Tranquil Boots to Core Items (Support)
Added Heaven's Halberd to Situational Items
Added Force Staff to Extension Items
Added Lotus Orb to Extension Items
Moved Blink Dagger to Core Items
Moved Hand of Midas to Situational Items
Removed Arcane Boots
Removed Iron Talon
Removed Octarine Core
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re: chaos knight
New Skill Build: Q W Q W Q W Q W E T R R E E T E R T T
i still think the 4th point in reality rift is more important than the 4th point in stun in most games, due to the cooldown change. it's debatable though, because having a chance at a 4s stun is pretty big too.
i definitely think ult should be taken before level 1 crit either way
would like others to have input on this as well
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Viper
While lvl1 W lets u last hit easier, i feel like harass potential of lvl1 Q is way better because u can harass without drawing aggro. Its easier to last hit with less damage when enemy mid is not even trying to last hit than with more damage while enemy hero is also trying to last hit. Viper is lane dominator because of his Q, dunno why u would ever skip it lvl1. Its like Razor skipping link lvl1.
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I think u want lvl1 ult before crit, even tho its ridiculously expensive, having 50% chance to triple instead of double ur damage output is too good to pass up.
What comes to stun or rift maxed first, i feel like having guaranteed 2s stun instead of 1s is better than 4s less cooldown in rift. Its not very likely u are going to be able to Rift Stun Rift in a fight even with lvl4 rift, target is either dead or away by the time u are going for the second rift.
Its basicly debate between 4s less cooldown in Rift vs. guaranteed 1s/2s stun.
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Viper should be taking 175 hp and 15 strength talents almost certainly, although 16 agility has some merit.
I do not believe that aghs or mek are ever purchaseable on that hero anymore.
I also do not favour max-nethertoxin. Maybe a 2nd point to assist in lasthitting, but maxing it seems like a huge waste. Poison attack's slow will be superior for killing heroes, and if you don't need to do that then corrosive makes you tankier AND is better for flash farming, if not CS (corrosive kills creeps surprisingly fast if they hit you)
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On May 30 2017 02:23 Sn0_Man wrote:
Viper should be taking 175 hp and 15 strength talents almost certainly, although 16 agility has some merit.
I do not believe that aghs or mek are ever purchaseable on that hero anymore.
I also do not favour max-nethertoxin. Maybe a 2nd point to assist in lasthitting, but maxing it seems like a huge waste. Poison attack's slow will be superior for killing heroes, and if you don't need to do that then corrosive makes you tankier AND is better for flash farming, if not CS (corrosive kills creeps surprisingly fast if they hit you)
Agree on STR now that they buffed in the last patch from 10 to 15. 10 STR vs 16 AGI was close call but 15 STR is too much to pass. Aghs i would keep situational, Mek i completely agree with.
This is the build i like the most:
Q W Q E E R E E W T W R W Q T Q T
unless u feel like u need 3rd lvl in Q to stick on the target, i go:
Q W Q E Q R E E E T W R W W T Q T
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problem with Viper is that no one plays him competitively.
Ok on Health + Str.
Ok on lvl 1 Poison
Ok on removal of Meka and Aghs (end of an era to remove Mekansm...)
Q W Q E E R E E W T W R W Q T Q T
Sounds good.
Ok on lvl6 ultimate, will need to describe it.
Stun > Reach
Also Echo before Manta. Manta isn't a popular item lately though.
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Manta on ck is really good though. It allows you to teamfight without having ult available. I think we have the right skill build with his ult. It should not be taken until level 10/11 because you have no mana pool for it.
I agree with the level 1 poison attack as well. I think treads should always be the build on viper though. He benefits a lot more from the attack speed than he does from the damage from phase boots.
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I tihnk the Phase is more for the movement to stay on top of enemies
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Not sure why magic ember has maelstrom removed, it's still a fantastic item and gets picked up all the time.
I suspect with blademail no longer being amplified by magic amp that it will drop off significantly in pickups by pro players on ember and other heroes.
He should also have ring of aquila as core or early game, it's still completely standard to get that. Also needs octarine in extension items, very common to build that too. I would say radiance is one of the rarer extension items, might even need to be in situational rather than extension.
Solar crest might deserve a situational mention as well, but with the nerfs to the item and the relative rarity of it being picked up probably not.
(Possibly I'm missing items from further down as the steamcommunity.com guides don't seem to let me scroll down inside the item build. Still have to enable unsafe scripts to use the web version of the guide, too. Is there a better way to view the guide short of going into the game and selecting the hero?)
nvm using the steam client browser seems to work well.
Naga siren should have mana boots as core and disassembled for BoT and octarine, not sure how easy that is to communicate though. Also, I highly prefer E first on naga, this is how the pros build her too. I max E first but not every pro does that though.
Invoker should level Quas at level 2, and get Wex at level 6. Most pros build it this way, only I think w33ha does Wex level two but he also only gets at most two levels of Quas before maxing Wex, he basically plays Wex Exort rather than Quas Exort. Most pros get the Health talent and the Stats talent, not damage or attack speed.
PL should be getting BoTs basically every game, this item is too good to pass up on for him. Core items should be aghs diffusal, not diffusal manta. Situational should swap echo sabre for SNY or Satanic.
Add a clarity to safelane jugg starting items, super valuable for this hero's mana needs. Also, wand is very important on him because of his bad mana pool. +7 armour right now is the better talent in most games, although of course some games the attack speed is better.
Morphling should have two more branches in his starting items, he can eat with tangos to get +10 tango worth of regen rather than only +8 and the stats are really good early on. Satanic should be in extension items for him.
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^agree with the pl diffusal into aghs build
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I'm pretty sure it's aghs diffusal. Aghs is crazy on him. I think you literally go boots (roa) aghs now.
Viper yeah mek is long dead. I think aghs is still okay if there are a couple enemies who hate being gooped. Bulk is bulk even if he's expected to put out more damage these days. He's not really played so it's hard to know for sure.
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