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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 24 2017 19:08 GMT
#6941
oh, forgot to change to the new NP talent (Treants instead of Int)
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-05 23:30:27
March 25 2017 21:25 GMT
#6942
Troll Warlord
Added Morbid Mask to Early Game
Added Monkey King Bar to Extension Items
Moved Ring of Aquila to Situational Items
Moved Linken's Sphere to Situational Items
Removed Hurricane Pike

Slark
New Talent Tree: 10 (10% Lifesteal), 15 (+15 Agility), 20 (+25 Attack Speed), 25 (+12 All Stats)

Enigma
New Talent Tree: 10 (+20 Movement Speed), 15 (15% Cooldown Reduction), 20 (-40s Respawn Time), 25 (+8 Demonic Conversion Eidolons)
Added Hand of Midas to Situational Items
Added Octarine Core to Extension Items
Moved Black King Bar to Core Items
Moved Guardian Greaves to Situational Items
Removed Mekansm

Magnus
New Talent Tree: 10 (+25 Attack Speed), 15 (+90 Gold/Min), 20 (+15% Empower Damage/Cleave), 25 (-35 Respawn Time)
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items

Treant Protector
New Skill Build: Q W E Q Q R Q E E T E R W W T W R T T (1. Nature's Guise 2. Living Armor 3. Leech Seed)
Added Medallion of Courage to Core Items
Added Iron Talon to Situational Items
Removed Magic Wand
Removed Guardian Greaves

Riki
Added Ring of Aquila to Core Items
Removed Boots of Speed
Removed Wind Lace
Removed Infused Raindrop

Venomancer
New Skill Build: E W E Q E W E R W T W R Q Q T Q R T T (1. Plague Ward 2. Poison Sting 3. Venomous Gale)
Created New Tab: "Early Game"
Added Iron Talon to Starting Items
Added Faerie Fire to Starting Items
Added Clarity to Starting Items
Added Ring of Aquila to "Early Game"
Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game"
Added Hand of Midas to Situational Items
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Moved Blink Dagger to Core Items
Moved Force Staff to Extension Items
Removed Animal Courier
Removed Observer Ward
Removed Tango
Removed Wind Lace
Removed Magic Wand
Removed Hurricane Pike

Vengeful Spirit
New Talent Tree: 10 (+25 Attack Speed), 15 (+8 All Stats), 20 (+65 Damage), 25 (+20% Vengeance Aura Damage)

Ogre Magi
New Talent Tree: 10 (+60 Gold/Min), 15 (+8% Magic Resistance), 20 (+250 Health), 25 (+40 Bloodlust AS)
Added Solar Crest to Extension Items
Moved Urn of Shadows to Core Items
Moved Glimmer Cape to Situational Items
Removed Boots of Speed
Removed Wind Lace

Omniknight
New Skill Build: E Q Q W Q E Q R E T E R W W T W R T T (1. Purification 2. Degen Aura 3. Repel)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+60 Gold/Min), 15 (+75 Cast Range), 20 (+6 Mana Regen), 25 (+200 Purification Damage/Heal)
Added Orb of Venom to Starting Items
Added Hand of Midas to Situational Items
Moved Soul Ring to Early Game
Removed Enchanted Mango
Removed Wind Lace

Terrorblade
Added Slippers of Agility x2 to Starting Items
Added Clarity to Starting Items
Added Moon Shard to Luxury Items
Moved Ring of Aquila to Early Game
Moved Eye of Skadi to Core Items
Removed Stout Shield
Removed Enchanted Mango
Removed Iron Talon
Removed Tango
Removed Butterfly
Removed Helm of the Dominator

Naga Siren (Core)
Added Bottle to Early Game
Added Scythe of Vyse to Extension Items
Removed Tango
Removed Enchanted Mango
Removed Stout Shield
Removed Clarity
Removed Arcane Boots

Naga Siren (Support)
Created New Tab: "Early Game"
Added Clarity to Starting Items
Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game"
Added Wind Lace to "Early Game"
Added Hand of Midas to Situational Items
Moved Guardian Greaves to Core Item
Removed Observer Ward
Removed Animal Courier

Meepo
Moved Scythe of Vyse to Core Items
Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items

Lifestealer (Core)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+5 All Stats), 15 (+250 Health), 20 (15% Evasion), 25 (+15 Armor)
Added Quelling Blade to Early Game
Added Silver Edge to Situational Items
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Added Mjollnir to Extension Items
Moved Desolator to Core Items
Moved Echo Sabre to Situational Items
Moved Sange & Yasha to Extension Items
Removed Blight Stone
Removed Blink Dagger

Lifestealer (Jungle)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+5 All Stats), 15 (+250 Health), 20 (15% Evasion), 25 (+15 Armor)
Added Poor Man's Shield to Starting Items
Added Tango to Starting Items
Added Silver Edge to Situational Items
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Added Mjollnir to Extension Items
Moved Desolator to Core Items
Moved Echo Sabre to Situational Items
Moved Sange & Yasha to Extension Items
Removed Blight Stone
Removed Blink Dagger
Removed Stout Shield
Removed Healing Salve
Removed Quelling Blade

Shadow Fiend
Added Daedalus to Extension Items
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Situational Items
Removed Eul's Scepter of Divinity

Clockwerk
Added Healing Slave to Starting Items
Moved Force Staff to Core Items
Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
Removed Clarity
Removed Boots of Speed
Removed Phase Boots
Removed Bottle

Earth Spirit
New Talent Tree: 11 (+10 Intelligence), 15 (+90 Gold/Min), 20 (+15% Spell Amplification), 25 (-45s Respawn Time)

Weaver (Core)
Moved Linken's Sphere to Extension Items

Templar Assassin
New Skill Build: E Q Q E Q R Q W W T W W E E T R R T T (1. Refraction 2. Meld 3. Psi Blades)

Lina (Support)
New Talent Tree: 10 (-30s Respawn Time, 15 (+125 Cast Range), 20 (6% Spell Amplification), 25 (-4s Dragon Slave Cooldown)

Lina (Core)
New Talent Tree: 11 (-30s Respawn Time), 15 (+50 Damage), 20 (+150 Attack Range), 25 (+40/4% Fiery Soul per Stack)
Created New Tab: "Early Game"
Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game"
Added Soul Ring to "Early Game"
Added Magic Wand to "Early Game
Added Arcane Boots to Core Items
Added Bloodstone to Core Items
Added Shadow Blade to Core Items
Added Mjollnir to Extension Items
Moved Blink Dagger to Situational Items
Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items
Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Extension Items
Removed Phase Boots
Removed Ghost Scepter
Removed Octarine Core
Removed Scythe of Vyse
Removed Shiva'S Guard

Ember Spirit (Core/Magic)
New Talent Tree: 11 (+10% Spell Amplification), 16 (+6 All Stats), 20 (+10 Armor), 25 (20% Cooldown Reduction)
Added Black King Bar to Situational Items
Moved Octarine Core to Extension Items

Ember Spirit (Core/Physical)
New Skill Build: E Q E Q E R E W Q T Q W W W T R R T T (1. Flame Guard 2. Searing Chains 3. Sleight of Fist)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+10% Spell Amplification), 16 (+6 All Stats), 20 (+10 Armor), 25 (20% Cooldown Reduction)
Moved Poor Man's Shield to Starting Items
Removed Tango
Remove Stout Shield

Slardar
New Talent Tree: 10 (+175 Mana), 15 (+225 Health), 20 (+7 Armor), 25 (+20 Strength)
Added Hand of Midas to Situational Items
Added Drum of Endurance to Situational Items
Added Shadow Blade to Extension Items
Moved Echo Sabre to Situational Items
Moved Solar Crest to Extension Items
Removed Armlet of Mordiggian

Lycan (Core)
New Skill Build: W E E W E R E W W T Q R Q Q T Q R T T (1. Feral Impulse 2. Howl 3. Summon Wolves)
Added Iron Talon to Early Game
Added Heart of Tarrasque to Extension Items
Removed Helm of the Dominator

Lycan (Jungle)
New Skill Build: Q E Q E Q R Q E E T W R W W T W R T T (1. Summon Wolves 2. Feral Impulse 3. Howl)
Moved Vladmir's Offering to Early Game
Added Heart of Tarrasque to Extension Items

Gyrocopter (Core/Carry)
Created New Tab: "Early Game"
Added Morbid Mask to Situational Items
Moved Phase Boots to "Early Game"
Moved Ring of Aquila to "Early Game"
Moved Sange & Yasha to Core Items
Moved Manta Style to Situational Items
Removed Helm of the Dominator

Silencer (Core)
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items

Abaddon
New Skill Build: W E W E W R W E E T Q R Q Q T Q R T T (1. Aphotic Shield 2. Curse of the Avernus 3. Mist Coil)
Created New Tab: "Core Items (Radiance)"
Added Poor Man's Shield to Starting Items
Added Boots of Speed to Early Game
Added Quelling Blade to Early Game
Added Hand of Midas to "Core Items (Radiance)"
Added Radiance to "Core Items (Radiance)"
Added Octarine Core to "Core Items (Radiance)"
Added Blink Dagger to Extension Items
Added Abyssal Blade to Extension Items
Moved Phase Boots to Early Game
Moved Drum of Endurance to Core Items (Offlane)
Moved Solar Crest to Core Items (Offlane)
Moved Lotus Orb to Situational Items
Removed Iron Branch x2
Removed Tango
Removed Orb of Venom
Removed Magic Wand
Removed Crimson Guard
Removed Sange & Yasha
Removed Stout Shield
Removed Observer Ward
Removed Ring of Protection
Removed Echo Sabre

Warlock (Support)
New Skill Build: W Q W Q Q R Q W W T E R E E T E R T T (1. Fatal Bonds 2. Shadow Word 3. Upheaval)
Created New Tab: "Early Game"
Added Iron Branch x2 to Starting Items
Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game"
Added Urn of Shadows to "Early Game"
Added Solar Crest to Core Items
Added Force Staff to Extension Items
Added Vladmir's Offering to Extension Items
Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
Removed Observer Ward
Removed Healing Salve
Removed Octarine Core

Warlock (Core)
New Skill Build: Q W W Q W R Q Q W T E R E E T E R T T (1. Fatal Bonds 2. Shadow Word 3. Upheaval)
Created New Tab: "Early Game"
Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game"
Added Force Staff to Extension Items
Moved Bottle to "Early Game
Moved Hand of Midas to Core Items

Monkey King (Core)
Added Poor Man's Shield to Starting Items
Added Shadow Blade to Core Items
Added Mjolnnir to Extension Items
Moved Desolator to Extension Items
Removed Iron Branch x2
Removed Healing Salve
Removed Stout Shield
Removed Ring of Aquila
Removed Assault Cuirass
Removed Butterfly

Monkey King (Support)
New Skill Build: W E Q Q Q R Q W W T W R E E T E R T T (1. Boundless Strike 2. Tree Dance 3. Jingu Mastery)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+20 Attack Speed), 15 (+275 Health), 20 (+40 Damage), 25 (+100% Boundless Strike Crit)
Created New Tab: "Early Game"
Added Observer Ward to Starting Items
Added Healing Salve to Starting Items
Added Iron Branch to Starting Items
Added Boots of Speed to Early Game
Added Urn of Shadows to Core Items
Added Observer Ward to Utility Items
Added Sentry Ward to Utility Items
Added Dust of Appearance to Utility Items
Added Smoke of Deceit to Utility Items
Added Tome of Experience to Utility Items
Added Poor Man's Shield to Situational Items
Added Shadow Blade to Situational Items
Added Solar Crest to Extension Items
Added Vladmir's Offering to Extension Items
Moved Magic Wand to Early Game
Moved Echo Sabre to Situational Items
Removed Stout Shield
Removed Diffusal Blade - Level 2
Removed Silver Edge
Removed Eye of Skadi

Nyx Assassin (Offlane)
New Skill Build: Q W E Q Q R Q E E T E R W W T W R T T (1. Impale 2. Spiked Carapace 3. Mana Burn)
Added Enchanted Mango x2 to Starting Items
Added Stout Shield to Starting Items
Moved Poor Man's Shield to Core Items
Moved Bottle to Situational Items
Removed Iron Talon

Ogre Magi
Moved Glimmer Cape to Core Items

Tusk
New Talent Tree: 11 (+40% XP Gain), 15 (+90 Gold/Min), 20 (+6 Armor), 25 (+700 Health)
Added Urn of Shadows to Situational Items
Added Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
Moved Vladmir's Offering to Extension Items
Removed Rod of Atos

Alchemist (Core/Radiance)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+20 Damage), 15 (+6 All Stats), 20 (+300 Health), 25 (-5 Acid Spray Armor)

Troll Warlord
New Skill Build: Q E W W W R W Q Q T Q R E E T E R T T (1. Whirling Axes 2. Berserker's Rage 3. Fervor)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+10 Agility), 15 (+6 Armor), 20 (+40 Damage), 25 (+20% Magic Resistance)
Added Vladmir's Offering to Core Items
Removed Shadow Blade
Removed Ring of Aquila

Zeus
New Skill Build: Q E W W W R W Q Q T Q R E E T E R T T (1. Lightning Bolt 2. Arc Lightning 3. Static Field)
Removed Soul Ring
Removed Refresher Orb

Ursa (Core)
New Skill Build: E Q E W W R E W E W T R Q Q T Q R T T (1. Fury Swipes 2. Overpower 3. Earthshock)
Added Slippers of Agility x2 to Starting Items
Added Silver Edge to Situational Items
Added Heaven's Halberd to Situational Items
Added Desolator to Situational Items
Moved Orb of Venom to Early Game
Moved Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Situational Items
Removed Tango
Removed Morbid Mask
Removed Stout Shield
Removed Sange & Yasha
Removed Solar Crest

Ursa (Jungle)
Added Silver Edge to Situational Items
Added Desolator to Situational Items
Moved Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Situational Items
Removed Sange & Yasha
Removed Solar Crest

Elder Titan
New Skill Build: W Q W Q Q R E Q E T E R E W T W R T T (1. Echo Stomp 2. Natural Order 3. Astral Spirit)
Moved Pipe of Insight to Situational Items
Moved Solar Crest to Extension Items
Moved Vladmir's Offering to Extension Items

Legion Commander (Core)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+7 Strength), 15 (+30 Damage), 20 (+7 Armor), 25 (+40 Duel Damage Bonus)
Added Sange & Yasha to Situational Items
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Moved Black King Bar to Core Items
Removed Satanic

Legion Commander (Jungle)
Added Sange & Yasha to Situational Items
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Moved Black King Bar to Core Items
Removed Satanic

Storm Spirit
New Talent Tree: 10 (+3 Mana Regen), 15 (+10 Intelligence), 20 (+40 Attack Speed), 25 (10% Spell Amplification)
Moved Linken's Sphere to Situational Items
Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items

Visage
New Skill Build: W Q W E W R W E E T E R Q Q T Q R T T (1. Soul Assumption 2 Gravekeeper's Cloak 3. Grave Chill)
Added Clarity to Starting Items
Added Hand of Midas to Situational Items
Added Assault Cuirass to Extension Items
Added Lotus Orb to Extension Items
Moved Solar Crest to Core Items
Removed Observer Ward
Removed Medallion of Courage
Removed Wind Lace

Arc Warden
New Skill Build: Q E Q E Q R Q E E T W R W W T W R T T (1. Flux 2. Spark Wraith 3. Magnetic Field)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+25 Attack Speed), 15 (+30 Damage), 20 (10% Cooldown Reduction), 25 (30% Lifesteal)
Moved Shadow Blade to Core Items
Moved Black King Bar to Situational Items
Moved Silver Edge to Extension Items
Moved Hurricane Pike to Extension Items
Removed Boots of Travel - Level 2

Night Stalker
New Skill Build: Q E Q E Q R Q W E E T R W W T W R T T (1. Void 2. Hunter in the Night 3. Crippling Fear)
New Talent Tree: 11 (+100 Cast Range), 15 (+25 Attack Speed), 20 (+30 Movement Speed), 25 (+12 Armor)
Added Healing Salve to Starting Items
Added Iron Talon to Early Game
Added Hand of Midas to Situational Items
Added Solar Crest to Situational Items
Added Aether Lens to Extension Items
Added Octarine Core to Extension Items
Moved Vladmir's Offering to Situational Items
Moved Urn of Shadows to Situational Items
Removed Pipe of Insight
Removed Force Staff

Renamed Core
Nature's Prophet (Jungle)
New Skill Build: E W E Q E R E W W T W R Q Q T Q R T T (1. Nature's Call 2. Teleportation 3. Sprout)
New Talent Tree: 10 (+30 Damage), 15 (+20 Intelligence), 20 (+35 Attack Speed), 25 (-40s Respawn Time)
Created New Tab: "Starting Items (Offlane)"
Added Boots of Speed to "Starting Items (Offlane)"
Added Tango to "Starting Items (Offlane)"
Added Clarity to "Starting Items (Offlane)"
Added Iron Branch to "Starting Items (Offlane)"
Added Orb of Venom to Situational Items
Added Phase boots to Core Items
Removed Power Treads

New Guide
Nature's Prophet (Core2)
Skill Build: E W E Q E R E W W T W R Q Q T Q R T T (1. Nature's Call 2. Teleportation 3. Sprout)
Talent Tree: 10 (+30 Damage), 15 (+20 Intelligence), 20 (+35 Attack Speed), 25 (-40s Respawn Time)
Starting Items: Iron Branch, Clarity, Ring of Basilius
Starting Items (Offlane): Boots of Speed, Tango, Clarity, Iron Branch
Core Items (Jungle/Offlane): Phase Boots, Magic Wand, Drum of Endurance, Shadow Blade, Orchid of Malevolence
Situational Items: Orb of Venom, Hand of Midas, Desolator, Linken's Sphere, Black King Bar
Extension Items: Aghanim's Scepter, Hurricane Pike, Silver Edge, Scythe of Vyse, Mjollnir, Bloodthorn

New Guide
Vengeful Spirit (Core)

Skill Build: Q W Q E Q T Q E E T E R W W T W R T T (1. Magic Missile 2. Vengeance Aura 3. Wave of Terror)
Talent Tree: 10 (+25 Attack Speed), 15 (+8 All Stats), 20 (+65 Damage), 25 (+20% Vengeance Aura Damage)
Starting Items: Tango, Clarity, Iron Branch x2, Healing Salve, Circlet of Nobility
Early Game: Boots of Speed, Ring of Aquila
Core Items: Power Treads, Magic Wand, Dragon Lance, Sange & Yasha, Hurricane Pike
Situational Items: Helm of Dominator, Desolator, Diffusal Blade - Level 2, Aghanim's Scepter, Linken's Sphere, Manta Style, Silver Edge
Extension Items: Boots of Travel, Black King Bar, Assault Cuirass, Monkey King Bar, Daedalus, Butterfly

New Guide
SirActionSlacks (Core)

Skill Build: Q E Q W Q R Q E E T E R W W T W R T T (1. Purification 2. Degen Aura 3. Repel)
Talent Tree: 10 (+60 Gold/Min), 15 (+8 Strength), 20 (+100 Damage), 25 (-16% Degen Aura)
Starting Items: Tango, Stout Shield, Orb of Venom
Early Game: Soul Ring, Boots of Speed, Quelling Blade
Core Items: Phase Boots, Eul's Scepter of Divinity, Echo Sabre, Sange & Yasha
Situational Items: Hand of Midas, Drum of Endurance, Vladmir's Offering, Black King Bar, Linken's Sphere, Silver Edge
Extension Items: Boots of Travel, Shiva's Guard, Radiance, Heart of Tarrasque, Abyssal Blade
Luxury Items: Boots of Travel - Level 2, Moon Shard, Daedalus, Eye of Skadi, Octarine Core
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 01 2017 12:59 GMT
#6943
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7.04 - Standard SirActionSlacks (Core) Build
ratings appreciated
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-01 23:49:25
April 01 2017 23:48 GMT
#6944
pretty sure core items should just be six soulrings there

idk its an improper meme because thats not how slacks plays at all
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-05 07:29:24
April 02 2017 13:59 GMT
#6945
Potential New Guides (Part 3) subject to change
Abaddon (Support) Delayed
Enchantress (Offlane) Delayed
Engima (Offlane) Delayed
Morphling (Support) - Offlane Delayed
Mirana (Support) - Roaming Delayed
Nature's Prophet (Offlane) Published
Necrophos (Core) Delayed
Omniknight (Core) - Offlane Published
Treant Protector (Offlane) Delayed
Vengeful Spirit (Core) - Safe Lane Published
Venomancer (Jungle) Delayed

Guides Removed (Part 3)
Ancient Apparition (Core)
Arc Warden (Core/Middle)
Bloodseeker (Offlane)
Dragon Knight (Core/Safe)
Earth Spirit (Core)
Elder Titan (Support)
Oracle (Core)
Shadow Shaman (Core)
Slark (Core/Mid)
Sniper (Core/Safe)
Troll Warlord (Offlane)
Underlord (Support)

Reddit Thread
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 03 2017 22:11 GMT
#6946
Going to do VS & NP before the 6th. I want to wrap up all updates before Kiev
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-04 23:09:35
April 04 2017 23:04 GMT
#6947
Tomorrow I will try to publish Vengeful Spirit Core.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 05 2017 09:04 GMT
#6948
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7.04 - Standard Vengeful Spirit (Core) Build
ratings appreciated
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-05 09:54:57
April 05 2017 09:52 GMT
#6949
two clarities is overkill, and most ppl dont go for the starting ring of protection. the trend for ranged safelaners that started with morph, is to opt for stat heavy starting items that build into wand immediately (ie. circlet + 3-4 branches + 2x tangoes + maybe a clarity). u have too little hp regen and too much mana regen with the starting items in the guide. with all the branches u buy, u can use them to get even more regen by eating them.

aghs should not be an extension item for a carry venge. situational at best, and even then, it's a costly item that takes up a slot that doesnt really help him do his job
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Velzi
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland659 Posts
April 05 2017 10:04 GMT
#6950
On April 05 2017 18:52 ahswtini wrote:
two clarities is overkill, and most ppl dont go for the starting ring of protection. the trend for ranged safelaners that started with morph, is to opt for stat heavy starting items that build into wand immediately (ie. circlet + 3-4 branches + 2x tangoes + maybe a clarity). u have too little hp regen and too much mana regen with the starting items in the guide. with all the branches u buy, u can use them to get even more regen by eating them.

aghs should not be an extension item for a carry venge. situational at best, and even then, it's a costly item that takes up a slot that doesnt really help him do his job

her god damnit.

Agreed on 2 clarities, one is absolute maximum u start with, instead more stats and more regen. Venge has decent armor at the start so RoP is only really there for the basi which is kinda okey idea but in practice more stats into wand should be safer option. Personally i would just remove aghs completely but if want it its definitely situational at best. Venge as a right clicker definitely wants MKB mentioned somewhere there especially how often u see radi carriers like aba naga alch right now.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
April 05 2017 10:36 GMT
#6951
agreed, mkb and mjollnir both should be mentioned. i dont even think sny is a good item, hurricane pike almost seems to replace that item.
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Torte de Lini
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Last Edited: 2017-04-05 10:40:38
April 05 2017 10:36 GMT
#6952
On April 05 2017 19:04 Velzi wrote:
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On April 05 2017 18:52 ahswtini wrote:
two clarities is overkill, and most ppl dont go for the starting ring of protection. the trend for ranged safelaners that started with morph, is to opt for stat heavy starting items that build into wand immediately (ie. circlet + 3-4 branches + 2x tangoes + maybe a clarity). u have too little hp regen and too much mana regen with the starting items in the guide. with all the branches u buy, u can use them to get even more regen by eating them.

aghs should not be an extension item for a carry venge. situational at best, and even then, it's a costly item that takes up a slot that doesnt really help him do his job

her god damnit.

Agreed on 2 clarities, one is absolute maximum u start with, instead more stats and more regen. Venge has decent armor at the start so RoP is only really there for the basi which is kinda okey idea but in practice more stats into wand should be safer option. Personally i would just remove aghs completely but if want it its definitely situational at best. Venge as a right clicker definitely wants MKB mentioned somewhere there especially how often u see radi carriers like aba naga alch right now.


Ok, 1 clarity
I'll add a circlet instead of ROP and a Healing Salve

I personally really like Aghs and I need alternative Extension Items (a 6th one)

Ok MKB, I'll move Aghs to Situational and remove Solar Crest
I like Mjollnir but didn't see the need with AC + S&Y
Was also thinking of Skadi and removing S&Y, but the movement speed is a really nice feeling

Should be published

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Torte de Lini
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Germany38463 Posts
April 05 2017 15:34 GMT
#6953
If no more feedback, I will publish today.
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Last Edited: 2017-04-07 11:30:28
April 07 2017 10:31 GMT
#6954
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Last Edited: 2017-04-07 11:01:20
April 07 2017 10:31 GMT
#6955
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Velzi
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland659 Posts
April 07 2017 11:18 GMT
#6956
I just checked the Storm guide and realized theres both Arcane Boots and Bloodstone in core section which is definitely not something u want to do. I do realize u have explained how u want to disassemble arcanes to get BS and go treads after, but i feel like people are not spending their time reading the description but instead just blindly build the items (personal experience few days back) u have listed there.

Im not a huge fan of going for Arcane boots Storm at any point of a game, rather finish my treads before going for BS but i guess its safer to give guide users more mana to spend.

Dunno how u are suppose put the guide if u really want them to go Arcane -> BS -> Treads instead of Treads -> BS.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 07 2017 11:48 GMT
#6957
On April 07 2017 20:18 Velzi wrote:
I just checked the Storm guide and realized theres both Arcane Boots and Bloodstone in core section which is definitely not something u want to do. I do realize u have explained how u want to disassemble arcanes to get BS and go treads after, but i feel like people are not spending their time reading the description but instead just blindly build the items (personal experience few days back) u have listed there.

Im not a huge fan of going for Arcane boots Storm at any point of a game, rather finish my treads before going for BS but i guess its safer to give guide users more mana to spend.

Dunno how u are suppose put the guide if u really want them to go Arcane -> BS -> Treads instead of Treads -> BS.


We can just make it:

Early Game: Boots of Speed -> Soul Ring
Core Items: Power Treads -> Bloodstone -> Orchid of Malevolence

But going Arcane into Bloodstone is not that big of a deal in my opinion in view of how users heavily excessively use mana.

On April 07 2017 20:18 Velzi wrote:
Im not a huge fan of going for Arcane boots Storm at any point of a game, rather finish my treads before going for BS but i guess its safer to give guide users more mana to spend.


exactly.

Or Arcane -> BS -> Orchid -> BOT (extension)
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Last Edited: 2017-04-10 10:31:51
April 08 2017 21:50 GMT
#6958
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bdonballer
Profile Joined October 2014
United States408 Posts
April 09 2017 03:19 GMT
#6959
I am really not a fan of the phantom lancer skill build. Your current build says to go max lance first and then max phantom rush 2nd. Doppleganger in my opinion is a way better skill to max second. The cd gets reduced dramatically and helps you farm faster and have escape available more often. Also, you have phantom rush at lvl 2, when doppleganger needs to be the 2nd skill taken. Doppleganger offers you escape at lvl 2, phantom rush does not.

I am a fan of starting tango salve ring of protection and either clarity or mango. I prefer mango because the regen helps and offers you the chance at a double lance.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 09 2017 11:00 GMT
#6960
On April 09 2017 12:19 bdonballer wrote:
I am really not a fan of the phantom lancer skill build. Your current build says to go max lance first and then max phantom rush 2nd. Doppleganger in my opinion is a way better skill to max second. The cd gets reduced dramatically and helps you farm faster and have escape available more often. Also, you have phantom rush at lvl 2, when doppleganger needs to be the 2nd skill taken. Doppleganger offers you escape at lvl 2, phantom rush does not.

I am a fan of starting tango salve ring of protection and either clarity or mango. I prefer mango because the regen helps and offers you the chance at a double lance.


I need to take another look, but don't you want his skill build to max Phantom Rush second or first for the extra agi to help with hastening your last-hitting/farm?
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