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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
July 12 2016 16:05 GMT
#6481
On July 12 2016 05:50 Birdie wrote:
The issue with linkens and manta is that they're inefficient, low impact, and in the case of linkens, make you take longer to farm up. Get boots aquila MoM or yasha or maelstrom into SNY, Skadi, some dps item (mkb mjollnir daedalus rapier, potentially bfly), bkb if you need it instead of linkens or manta. You don't get manta unless it's late and u need something to siege highground with.


of course, but try explaining your decisions to someone that is far less skilled or able than you. linkens manta gives people a little bit of everything to make it past the mid game ok in the lower brackets

perhaps a little more guidance could be offered (yasha -> linkens -> finish manta, etc), but its my opinion that the build is the most cookie cutter and has the ease of use that a new player needs.
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Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
July 12 2016 22:16 GMT
#6482
On July 13 2016 01:05 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2016 05:50 Birdie wrote:
The issue with linkens and manta is that they're inefficient, low impact, and in the case of linkens, make you take longer to farm up. Get boots aquila MoM or yasha or maelstrom into SNY, Skadi, some dps item (mkb mjollnir daedalus rapier, potentially bfly), bkb if you need it instead of linkens or manta. You don't get manta unless it's late and u need something to siege highground with.


of course, but try explaining your decisions to someone that is far less skilled or able than you. linkens manta gives people a little bit of everything to make it past the mid game ok in the lower brackets

perhaps a little more guidance could be offered (yasha -> linkens -> finish manta, etc), but its my opinion that the build is the most cookie cutter and has the ease of use that a new player needs.

It's standard guides, ppl are supposed to just follow it until they're good at dota
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-13 04:59:46
July 13 2016 04:59 GMT
#6483
Valve has fixed a large majority of hair-ripping bugs. I am so relieved.

  • Textbox/Confirmation Boxes now function
  • Beastmaster Skill Portion is fixed
  • Nature's Prophet Mistagging has been corrected
  • Previous Errors that prevented the server from loading (Hero Portrait + Error #1264396722 is cleaned up

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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-20 02:52:24
July 14 2016 23:18 GMT
#6484
ed
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 16 2016 20:26 GMT
#6485
Today is my birthday, so there won't be much testing or updating.

I think overall, most builds are up-to-date. I'll take a look at Medusa again, but she was recently changed when people brought her up so many times and I just had reason to deny changing her.
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
July 16 2016 22:27 GMT
#6486
On July 17 2016 05:26 Torte de Lini wrote:
Today is my birthday.


happy birthday torte!!! ^^
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 17 2016 01:12 GMT
#6487
thanks
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 09:42:29
July 20 2016 02:52 GMT
#6488
ed
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 04:28:00
July 21 2016 02:18 GMT
#6489

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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 21 2016 04:29 GMT
#6490
[image loading]
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Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
July 21 2016 05:16 GMT
#6491
What does that mean? Percentage of players using the guide?
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 21 2016 05:49 GMT
#6492
On July 21 2016 14:16 Birdie wrote:
What does that mean? Percentage of players using the guide?


It's an upgrade of this tool: http://armchairathleticism.com/dota-2-guide-bookmarklets/
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
July 21 2016 09:35 GMT
#6493
Why does that WR guide have support junk on it?

I thought the WR guides were just going to be duplicates? If you buy support junk you shouldn't be rushing aghs.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 21 2016 09:36 GMT
#6494
Not sure, I can kill it.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-23 06:05:15
July 21 2016 09:42 GMT
#6495
Visage
Added Force Staff to Core Items
Added Wind Lace to Situational Items
Added Glimmer Cape to Situational Items
Added Aether Lens to Situational Items
Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
Removed Magic Wand
Removed Assault Cuirass

Weaver (Core)
Weaver (Core)
Added Heart of Tarrasque to Extension Items
Added Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Situational Items
Removed Maelstrom

Windranger (Core)
Removed Observer Wards
Removed Sentry Wards
Removed Dust of Appearance
Removed Gem of True Sight
Removed Smoke of Deceit

Lycan (Core)
Added Linken's Sphere to Situational Items
Added Abyssal Blade to Extension Items
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items
Removed Skull Basher

Lycan (Jungle)
Added Linken's Sphere to Situational Items
Added Abyssal Blade to Extension Items
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items
Removed Medallion of Courage
Removed Skull Basher
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 21 2016 09:43 GMT
#6496
If you want to try the bookmarklets subscribe tool, give it a shot here:

http://armchairathleticism.com/dota-2-guide-bookmarklets/
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Velzi
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland659 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 09:48:50
July 21 2016 09:48 GMT
#6497
triple branch seems excessive aswell since u need only 2 for the wand nowadays. Also u have items for 7 slots in starting items.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you to their level and then beat you with experience. http://www.dotabuff.com/players/115305822 https://yasp.co/players/115305822
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 21 2016 10:04 GMT
#6498
I want to start removing Healing Salve from some builds. They are sometimes really unnecessary and even I skip them. With the offlane being even more passive than before, I think Healing Salve is more detrimental than useful. Especially if it means earlier Early Game items like Wraith Band that really alleviate the difficulty in last-hitting for some heroes.
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
July 21 2016 10:27 GMT
#6499
The offlane's only passive in pro games. In 2k pubs there's no significant difference, and dual lanes are way more common. They're always going to want more regen.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 10:31:58
July 21 2016 10:31 GMT
#6500
On July 21 2016 19:27 Belisarius wrote:
The offlane's only passive in pro games. In 2k pubs there's no significant difference, and dual lanes are way more common. They're always going to want more regen.


2K to 3K level Offlane is often squeezed in with a roaming core and another Core (I've seen so many PAs. Abaddons and Slarks in offlane, it's blowing my fucking mind).

It is 100% very passive as they just try to survive or focus on their one or two last-hits.
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