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ScarPe
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany392 Posts
August 27 2013 08:14 GMT
#501
just watched over shadow shaman:

at the beginning i'd go for: Cour, Wards, 3x branchen, tango, clarity.

after this i feal that shadow shaman is a great drum carryer, as it helps him to close up to the enemy very early on to get off his hex/shackle. in addition with a magic wand, you should be finde to go for the blinkdagger directly.

you can go forcestaff as a next item, but i feel blinkdagger is a far better item for SS, as it gives your team to punish every enemy that is only slightly out of position. even though id go for aghanims after blinkdagger, as the upgraded ultimate gives you a great tool to break enemy bases.
Awaken my child and embrace the glory that is your birthright. -[The Overmind]
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-27 08:41:46
August 27 2013 08:41 GMT
#502
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=129107725

Yes, that is how the build is; I think I didn't link it previously, so there was some confusion. There is one in guise, and one in leech seed before 6.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 01 2013 12:17 GMT
#503
Just hit 2.25 million subscriptions (: thank you very much everyone
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Eriksen
Profile Joined December 2012
Micronesia720 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 12:51:38
September 01 2013 12:51 GMT
#504
May I give comments for Faceless Void's build? Your build doesn't work as often in Very High pubs where carries should constantly sit in their lane and has a reliability percentage of success lower than 60%.
Whereas, that build works beautifully when everything goes right. Sometimes it doesn't. And most of the time, it doesn't.

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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 01 2013 12:59 GMT
#505
Unfortunately the guides are a reference and suggestion for lower-skilled players. At Very High public games, it's generally expected that you understand and know how to build your hero based on the situation, success of your farm (or whatever role you need to achieve/succeed at) and the key items needed to counter your foes' strongest heroes (or those your meant to contend with).

For Faceless Void: his items are pretty clear-cut in that you need Black King Bar and usually Battlefury if you can manage it or Mask of Madness; I put both as core: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=128922664

Butterfly may be something I'll need to remove or move Battlefury to Situational.
I've seen people go Midas too, but I'm not sure of its validity.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 01 2013 13:01 GMT
#506
I added Midas, PMS and reversed Butterfly for MKB. However, I agree that it needs a bit of updating.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 03 2013 13:06 GMT
#507
No updates recently, swamped with work ): but quick errors can be fixed tonight :D
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
September 03 2013 13:08 GMT
#508
Nice bump rofl.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 03 2013 13:25 GMT
#509
On September 03 2013 22:08 Firebolt145 wrote:
Nice bump rofl.

Hey, he is doing gods work and people need to know about it. This guides have saved many a friend from terrible builds, like ones with really early bloodstone puck or terrible battle fury of bloodseeker. Without these builds, would I teach people about the harsh world of Dota 2?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 03 2013 14:06 GMT
#510
Usually, I bump with an active change of items of something. I did something small yesterday, but that's it.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 04 2013 19:10 GMT
#511
Updated Batrider's flamebreak description, fixed the 500000000000th typo of Skywrath Mage.
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SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
September 04 2013 19:24 GMT
#512
Oh wow. Over 30k subscribers on steam. Not bad, congrats.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 04 2013 19:26 GMT
#513
On September 05 2013 04:24 SilverStar wrote:
Oh wow. Over 30k subscribers on steam. Not bad, congrats.


For Batrider?

I have 2.25 million in total thanks to everyone here
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
September 04 2013 19:27 GMT
#514
Aye, this is the de facto set of guides I link any friends I have completely new to Dota because I know I've at least looked through them and approve of them.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 04 2013 19:28 GMT
#515
Well, that was my goal :B I'm just the handyman in the end (with some basic writing capability)
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 04 2013 19:29 GMT
#516
These are the builds I turn when I random something I don't know and the way I avoid my friends building Bloodstone for every Int Hero in the game. Seriously, screw the guys who keep upvoting those guides. The only exception is Puck, where I use "Finch says Puck is a Pretty Lady".
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 04 2013 19:32 GMT
#517
I don't much bloodstone play in pub games unless its really late in the game.
Sometimes enemies go late-game enigma bloodstone o_O
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 04 2013 19:37 GMT
#518
There are some amazingly high rated guides out there with Bloodstone all over the place. I saw one for Lina that had Bloodstone as core and Force staff as "situational" and they are so highly rated. It makes me so grumpy.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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NbSky
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada1023 Posts
September 04 2013 19:38 GMT
#519
Bloodstone is pretty much only cost efficient on timbersaw
Sandstorm@USEast | The Last Pride [EviL] GW2 | Nb.Sky
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 04 2013 19:50 GMT
#520
On September 05 2013 04:38 NbSky wrote:
Bloodstone is pretty much only cost efficient on timbersaw


Yeah. Storm before too, but now I just find Orchid to be so much better usually.
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