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On March 28 2020 03:31 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2020 03:21 Amui wrote:On March 27 2020 11:49 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On March 27 2020 08:47 Amui wrote:On March 27 2020 00:40 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On March 26 2020 23:25 zatic wrote:On March 26 2020 23:12 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On March 26 2020 18:03 zatic wrote:
Anyone got a experience with a combined work/gaming setup? Specifically talking screens. I think for work I would want 2 screens of the same type and not have them be too large (24"/26"). For gaming though one big screen would be much preferred. Which way did you guys go if you have the same kind of conflict? Are you talking dual monitors or a total of three? Well for work I would get dual monitors equal size. For gaming I only need one - but a larger screen. I just can't make up my mind which combination of screens would work best and was wondering how others do mixed work/gaming setups. I have a single 27" Sceptre at the moment and it works for both needs for me currently. I want another of the same size for work as well. IMO, you'll be fine with 2 equal monitors for both tasks. Any larger and you might as well get TVs mounted to the wall. I have a 34" ultrawide and a 27". They're both the same height and vertical resolution so no jumps between screens. Works quite well for what I do, although this is a rather pricey setup. How close are you to those monitors? Are they mounted or desktop? Do you have a discernible advantage with an extra 7"? Both are 144Hz so primary use is still gaming. I sit about a 1M away from them, 27" is propped up by textbooks, 34" is mounted to the wall. 34" is amazing for productivity. I can fit 4 letter pages side by side without the text being particularly small in word for example, although for working I would probably only do 3. In a default excel sheet I have 53 columns. Makes a big difference for a lot of my work now that I'm working from home a lot. Would you mind taking a picture of the setup? Widescreen + extra was also something I was thinking about. Do you do gaming on the widescreen?
Yeah I do almost all my gaming on the widescreen. Downsides are if games don't have adjustable HUD's, things like minimaps get put in corners and they are often super far out of the way. Most games play nicely.
League for example simply gives you an extra 5:1 of horizontal viewing, so you just see more than on 16 . Downside is that minimap is far away and also I find that scrolling sideways when you do run out of real estate is much harder than it used to be.
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On March 22 2020 14:57 Cyro wrote:
trainwreck on zen CPU's
I also had a bunch of problems with intel h100 series. 9900k + ASUS ROG Maximus XI Hero + Corsair vengeance CMK32GX4M2B3200C16 would not install windows. I sent all that back for the 9700k + MSI 390i edge + tforce TXKD416G4133HC18FDC01. Now this set up I can install the chipset and update windows but it makes this weird sound every now and then like a humming sound. I have another msi board coming in paired with a g4400 for a router which I doubt will have problems but after putting thousands into the intel chipset I am highly disapointed. The entire chipset is not stable on ubuntu or debian it will hang after 2 minutes - grant it my O.C is probably the issue but I had 0 issues with my 4790k or 4690k.
I also intitially pulled a used hp pro elite off of ebay to run a router on but the motherboard would just wipe the hard drive and would refuse to detect the linux os but I had a dell with the same h100 chipset and it was fine. Intel just can't get this off the ground and the board mfgs are not releasing any bios updates to help. It's like yeah I get stable 4.8 ghz but now I have to play the stability lottery.
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I don't think stable means what you think it does. I also find it strange you're blaming a chipset when you haven't verified a non-OC is actually unstable.
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rate my build?
Ryzen 5 3600
Gigabyte B450M
16GB T.Force Delta D4 3200mhz
Palit gtx 1660ti 6gb
Samsung 500gb ssd
650w seasonic s12
Planning to play
Warzone
Total War 3 Kingdoms
Total War Warhammer 2
Cyberpunk
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You'll be fine with those games on that build.
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On April 15 2020 19:40 icystorage wrote:
rate my build?
Gigabyte B450M
Personally I would do the B450I Gaming Plus AC or x470 gaming pro carbon there
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If the peripherals are in your budget, i think your first step would be figuring out what kind of peripherals you want.
Considering what you described, i think the most important part of your build by far is the monitor. Figure out what you want, and how much money you are going to spend on it. The figure out if you want a fancy keyboard or mouse, and what kind of speakers. Once you are done with that, you know how much money is left for the actual desktop.
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That one seems to be the old version and is OOS everywhere.
I threw together a parts list:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wZcjgJ
No OS included - Windows can be really cheap as a student or a bunch of other sources.
I tossed in a decent quality cheap mouse/keyboard/speakers, but you're welcome to choose your own
The GPU will easily max league and overwatch at 144hz
The monitor could be side/upgraded, for example:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08462DXV2
The 144hz non-TN market is fairly small so you're fairly limited in selection. It also looks like a ton of stuff is OOS because of coronavirus.
Headset/mouse mat are up to preference.
The first place I'd cut on budget is the SSD, same model, just 500gb, and get a hard drive down the line if required.
Edit:: also agreed with the above posts - a switch+cables is dirt cheap, and would let you wire in the desktop. Similarly, the peripherals make a huge difference in where you allocate money. This will easily run pretty much anything at 1080 on reasonable settings, but you could easily save money by going AMD or a lower tier Nvidia card.
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Hi all. Used this thread all the way back in 2012 to build my first rig and I think it's time after a couple component updates to fully rebuild (with maybe some retention!).
What is your budget?
$1000 USD
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1080p, running 2 monitors, but would be interested eventually doing 1440p on primary/both
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Mostly WoW, but all Blizzard games, Civ VI on occasion, and CS:GO.
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
General browsing and basic work task purposes. Ideally running something like Netflix on second screen while playing my games!
Do you intend to overclock?
No
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No
Do you need an operating system?
No, I plan on using my current (bought in the last 6 mo or so) 2.5" SSD and I have a 2 TB HDD as well, so I shouldn't need to update those parts.
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
I would like a better wi-fi adapter if possible but otherwise no, I like what I have already.
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
Been a Intel/GeForce user for many years but after some research I think I want to give AMD a go with CPU and possibly GPU.
What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
N/A
Note:
I updated my GPU (GTX 1060 3GB) a couple years ago and SSD/HDD in the past year so those parts CAN all stay (although I'm open to newer GPU suggestions). However, CPU is an i5-2500 and Motherboard is an H67. I also want to replace the case and PSU as all of these above-mentioned parts are from 2012 when I made the initial build. Would like to go mid-tower with case size but am open to any suggestion.
Thanks a ton!
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On April 24 2020 08:30 las91 wrote:
Hi all. Used this thread all the way back in 2012 to build my first rig and I think it's time after a couple component updates to fully rebuild (with maybe some retention!).
What is your budget?
$1000 USD
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1080p, running 2 monitors, but would be interested eventually doing 1440p on primary/both
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Mostly WoW, but all Blizzard games, Civ VI on occasion, and CS:GO.
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
General browsing and basic work task purposes. Ideally running something like Netflix on second screen while playing my games!
Do you intend to overclock?
No
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No
Do you need an operating system?
No, I plan on using my current (bought in the last 6 mo or so) 2.5" SSD and I have a 2 TB HDD as well, so I shouldn't need to update those parts.
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
I would like a better wi-fi adapter if possible but otherwise no, I like what I have already.
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
Been a Intel/GeForce user for many years but after some research I think I want to give AMD a go with CPU and possibly GPU.
What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
N/A
Note:
I updated my GPU (GTX 1060 3GB) a couple years ago and SSD/HDD in the past year so those parts CAN all stay (although I'm open to newer GPU suggestions). However, CPU is an i5-2500 and Motherboard is an H67. I also want to replace the case and PSU as all of these above-mentioned parts are from 2012 when I made the initial build. Would like to go mid-tower with case size but am open to any suggestion.
Thanks a ton!
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CnRWwh
Specific differences from the computer build a few posts up:
1. Motherboard is better, includes decent wifi (Cheaper/better than a standalone card in a lot of cases)
2. RAM is faster at a slightly higher cost
3. GPU upgrade to 5700XT (Can get a 2070 at similar price too)
Straight up, I've had 3 friends personally build systems with AMD GPUs from this generation. One of them has seen some crashes that are slowly improving as new drivers/chipset releases come out, but it's still not 100%. Nvidia is generally better in this regard. AMD does have better price/performance when it's working though.
What you might want to change:
Case: personal preference, I like the minimalist aesthetic, but your opinion may vary.
PSU: 5 year warranty - A seasonic focus PSU or corsair TX series PSU has a 7 year warranty, and correspondingly higher price tag. Going by your old build, you keep stuff for a long time, so this might be a good investment.
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On April 25 2020 03:51 Lmui wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 24 2020 08:30 las91 wrote:
Hi all. Used this thread all the way back in 2012 to build my first rig and I think it's time after a couple component updates to fully rebuild (with maybe some retention!).
What is your budget?
$1000 USD
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1080p, running 2 monitors, but would be interested eventually doing 1440p on primary/both
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Mostly WoW, but all Blizzard games, Civ VI on occasion, and CS:GO.
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
General browsing and basic work task purposes. Ideally running something like Netflix on second screen while playing my games!
Do you intend to overclock?
No
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No
Do you need an operating system?
No, I plan on using my current (bought in the last 6 mo or so) 2.5" SSD and I have a 2 TB HDD as well, so I shouldn't need to update those parts.
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
I would like a better wi-fi adapter if possible but otherwise no, I like what I have already.
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
Been a Intel/GeForce user for many years but after some research I think I want to give AMD a go with CPU and possibly GPU.
What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
N/A
Note:
I updated my GPU (GTX 1060 3GB) a couple years ago and SSD/HDD in the past year so those parts CAN all stay (although I'm open to newer GPU suggestions). However, CPU is an i5-2500 and Motherboard is an H67. I also want to replace the case and PSU as all of these above-mentioned parts are from 2012 when I made the initial build. Would like to go mid-tower with case size but am open to any suggestion.
Thanks a ton! Specific differences from the computer build a few posts up: 1. Motherboard is better, includes decent wifi (Cheaper/better than a standalone card in a lot of cases) 2. RAM is faster at a slightly higher cost 3. GPU upgrade to 5700XT (Can get a 2070 at similar price too) Straight up, I've had 3 friends personally build systems with AMD GPUs from this generation. One of them has seen some crashes that are slowly improving as new drivers/chipset releases come out, but it's still not 100%. Nvidia is generally better in this regard. AMD does have better price/performance when it's working though. What you might want to change: Case: personal preference, I like the minimalist aesthetic, but your opinion may vary. PSU: 5 year warranty - A seasonic focus PSU or corsair TX series PSU has a 7 year warranty, and correspondingly higher price tag. Going by your old build, you keep stuff for a long time, so this might be a good investment.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zMG9vW
Taking your suggestions and some research, here's what I have currently. It looks like a lot of prices are slightly inflated and/or supply is out of stock for a lot of parts (B450 Tomahawk???) (the stimulus maybe letting retailers fleece a bti?) so this will probably sit in my cart for a while. The SSD/HDD are what I'm currently using I just put them there for my own reference, not included in cost. Sitting at $930 for the full build - I have also added a fan to the two included in the case. Budget increased to $1200 - what should I do with the extra ~$300? I don't feel compelled to spend it but I can definitely be convinced lol.
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On April 25 2020 11:53 las91 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2020 03:51 Lmui wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 24 2020 08:30 las91 wrote:
Hi all. Used this thread all the way back in 2012 to build my first rig and I think it's time after a couple component updates to fully rebuild (with maybe some retention!).
What is your budget?
$1000 USD
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1080p, running 2 monitors, but would be interested eventually doing 1440p on primary/both
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Mostly WoW, but all Blizzard games, Civ VI on occasion, and CS:GO.
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
General browsing and basic work task purposes. Ideally running something like Netflix on second screen while playing my games!
Do you intend to overclock?
No
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No
Do you need an operating system?
No, I plan on using my current (bought in the last 6 mo or so) 2.5" SSD and I have a 2 TB HDD as well, so I shouldn't need to update those parts.
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
I would like a better wi-fi adapter if possible but otherwise no, I like what I have already.
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
Been a Intel/GeForce user for many years but after some research I think I want to give AMD a go with CPU and possibly GPU.
What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
N/A
Note:
I updated my GPU (GTX 1060 3GB) a couple years ago and SSD/HDD in the past year so those parts CAN all stay (although I'm open to newer GPU suggestions). However, CPU is an i5-2500 and Motherboard is an H67. I also want to replace the case and PSU as all of these above-mentioned parts are from 2012 when I made the initial build. Would like to go mid-tower with case size but am open to any suggestion.
Thanks a ton! Specific differences from the computer build a few posts up: 1. Motherboard is better, includes decent wifi (Cheaper/better than a standalone card in a lot of cases) 2. RAM is faster at a slightly higher cost 3. GPU upgrade to 5700XT (Can get a 2070 at similar price too) Straight up, I've had 3 friends personally build systems with AMD GPUs from this generation. One of them has seen some crashes that are slowly improving as new drivers/chipset releases come out, but it's still not 100%. Nvidia is generally better in this regard. AMD does have better price/performance when it's working though. What you might want to change: Case: personal preference, I like the minimalist aesthetic, but your opinion may vary. PSU: 5 year warranty - A seasonic focus PSU or corsair TX series PSU has a 7 year warranty, and correspondingly higher price tag. Going by your old build, you keep stuff for a long time, so this might be a good investment. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zMG9vWTaking your suggestions and some research, here's what I have currently. It looks like a lot of prices are slightly inflated and/or supply is out of stock for a lot of parts (B450 Tomahawk???) (the stimulus maybe letting retailers fleece a bti?) so this will probably sit in my cart for a while. The SSD/HDD are what I'm currently using I just put them there for my own reference, not included in cost. Sitting at $930 for the full build - I have also added a fan to the two included in the case. Budget increased to $1200 - what should I do with the extra ~$300? I don't feel compelled to spend it but I can definitely be convinced lol.
Mostly just lack of stock. The major manufacturers are all in China, and the supply lines took a hammering, and a ton of people are buying systems to work from home, so supply is down, and demand is up which leads to high prices. A few months ago, this build would've probably been $150-$200 cheaper.
Up to 1440p, you really aren't going to see a huge difference with anything from a pure performance standpoint. I would invest an extra $30 and get a 80+ gold rated PSU. The EVGA GD's are the cheapest ones at around the $80 mark, in return you gain reliability, efficiency, lower noise and lower heat. It's well worth the investment. You also gain a warranty which is somewhere from 5-10 years depending on what you buy.
That is a pretty brutally priced 2060 super though. At $500, grab a 2070 super instead, or grab a cheaper 2060 super.
If you really want to splurge, a 27" 144hz 2560x1440 monitor like the LG 27GL850 is a good long term investment, although a bit above budget. Good balance of colors, refresh rate, gaming performance. It's definitely been cheaper than the current $500 recently though.
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I would get a 2TB SSD.
That's something that will be relevant for quite some time, meanwhile I expect the RTX generation cards to become garbage to put it nicely with the next generation of cards less than a year away.
CPU's I'd expect to stabilize a lot, but no big benefit to upgrade to a 3700 or something. I like what you have, A 2TB SSD would carry over to your next build hence why I would go for it.
Better to buy a modest build like you have here, and upgrade your computer in 3 years, rather than trying to have top end now and stretching it for 5. And if it was me, and its main purpose is gaming... That said, I'd rather stretch the money and get a 2070 Super instead of the 2060S.
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