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Cyro
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
CPU: G4560 (will give you 80%+ the performance of a 7700k in like every game)- $90~ Mobo: H110M PRO-VD M-ATX - $80 GPU: GTX1050 2GB (high or ultra in everything at 50fps+ at 1080p for modern games, stuff like SC2, Lol, Dota, CS, Overwatch it'll crush on highest settings) - $160 RAM: 8GBx1 Kingston Valueram DDR4 2133Mhz -$60 PSU: 430W Thermaltake or EVGA - $50 SSD: Blue Series SSD 500GB - $190 Case: Anything - $45 This $675 CAD bad boy will blow anything that cost $1200+ CAD 5 years ago. With exchange rates, I'd expect the equivalent system to be around $500 (or a couple dollars north) in USD. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
The performance vs 7700k would depend a lot on CPU core scaling in the game. There's a lot of differences there with the 7700k having more instruction sets enabled (mostly relevant for non-gaming loads) but also having twice as many cores and threads which are clocked ~20-29% higher at stock. dual channel would show better performance than 1x8GB, bit awkward with only two slots available | ||
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TT1
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FiWiFaKi
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On January 10 2017 12:56 Cyro wrote: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/73945-gtx-1060-vs-rx-480-updated-review-23.html Well even the reviewer who is trying to convince us that the RX480 is getting better, closes it out by saying he'd end up buying the one that goes on sale... So at the prices I quoted in my original post, I'd gladly take the GTX 1060. And let's not neglect the roughly 20 higher temperatures when running under load, roughly 30W average higher power consumption during normal gameplay, and 10dB higher acoustics. If we're going to be penny pinching 30W over a 1,500 day period, gaming 3.3 hours a day results in an extra $18 in cost (that's not even accounting for transimission and distribution costs being usually proportional to electricity usage, so it's not just the base 12 cent a kW or whatever, and would probably be closer to $40-$50 in extra electricity cost over the cards life cycle. Anyway, the improvement the Rx480 has been making does look nice, and it's a closer battle than I'd like to admit. At the end of the day, the performance either card has over the other won't change too much. Also, I'm personally not a fan of those benchmarks either, because they're choosing games that are just too new, and not really accounting for people sticking to games for a long time. I'll likely be playing Witcher III for a long time, maybe I'll be wanting to play some of the older games in 1440p... Imo it doesn't really do it justice to only pick games that are 1 year or newer, since for most people, I'd imagine that accounts for a modest percentage of the games they play. On January 10 2017 13:14 Cyro wrote: Pretty nice system The performance vs 7700k would depend a lot on CPU core scaling in the game. There's a lot of differences there with the 7700k having more instruction sets enabled (mostly relevant for non-gaming loads) but also having twice as many cores and threads which are clocked ~20-29% higher at stock. dual channel would show better performance than 1x8GB, bit awkward with only two slots available I'l have to look at how big of a difference it makes. I always thought it was very minor, and I thought that having the possibility to upgrade might be worth more. Time to do some reading I suppose. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On January 10 2017 13:19 TT1 wrote: Between a E5-2680 and a i7-5820K (same pricepoint), which CPU would you guys recommend for a non overclock build? Just buy this one if that's your cup of tea: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Intel-XEON-E5-2670-2-6-GHz-20-MB-8-Core-CPU-Processor-SR0H8-115W-100-Tested-/131780913476?hash=item1eaec12944:g:cecAAOSwYmZXD03d The 5820k/6820k and the E5 8 Cores, will perform more or less the same in professional applications, but you're going to be spending more on the motherboard. Maybe you can make an argument for it if you get two cheap ones like I linked, and put them in a dual CPU board, that would probably beat any non-Xeon configuration out there for parallel computing applications . They are going to lose in the single core performance (i.e. any game or any product that isn't super polished)... It's going to use more power, doesn't support DRR4 RAM, etc. Make sure you carefully weigh the 6700k vs 6820k argument as well. Best case scenario, you're getting 20-30% performance gain with the 6820k, but all your games are going to run slower (even though you only play BW  )... And while the processor doesn't cost that much more than a 6700k, the cheapest LGA 2011-3 boards will cost you $300 CAD, which is more than double of the Z170 boards, and 3x the cost of H110 boards. | ||
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TT1
Canada10107 Posts
CPU Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor $90 Motherboard: ASRock H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $50 GPU: GIGABYTE Radeon RX 460 2GB 145$ Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB(2X4GB) 2133MHZ $80 Storage: Samsung 850 EVO SSD 500GB 219$ Case: Cougar Spike Micro ATX 50$ PSU: EVGA 430W 80+ 50$ Total: 680$ CAD | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
http://www.ncix.com/detail/asrock-h110m-dgs-intel-skylake-1151-e2-122251.htm?promoid=1651 The only thing I'd make sure is that 6 USB ports is enough for them... Keyboard is one, mouse is one, wireless internet if you don't have a card is one, webcam, printer, headphones that use USB, etc. I think you should spend the extra $10 to get the GTX1050 as well, but personal preference I suppose. Really not a thing besides that which I would change if I was building a budget PC myself. Actually you have 2400Mhz RAM which H110 doesn't support, so maybe you'd be better off with: http://www.ncix.com/detail/patriot-signature-ddr4-8gb-pc3-17000-0e-102732.htm?promoid=1651 | ||
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TT1
Canada10107 Posts
And yea everything checks out, i ended up getting an 850 EVO (219$) over this AMD SSD ( http://www.ncix.com/detail/amd-radeon-r3-480gb-solid-93-128342.htm 160$) because it kinda looks shady, i dunno the manufacturer. In any case i didnt wanna skimp out on the SSD, just to be safe. Edit: Oh yea and in regards to the 1050, hes had bad experiences w/ NVIDIA in the past so i just figured i'd get him a 460. Also thanks for the heads up on the RAM, ill look into it. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On January 10 2017 14:53 TT1 wrote: I mean i doubt he'll send the mail in rebate but yea its a great deal :D And yea everything checks out, i ended up getting an 850 EVO (219$) over this AMD SSD ( http://www.ncix.com/detail/amd-radeon-r3-480gb-solid-93-128342.htm 160$) because it kinda looks shady, i dunno the manufacturer. In any case i didnt wanna skimp out on the SSD, just to be safe. From the research I've done, I think the 850 Evo is the best value SATA SSD on the market. I might recommend cheaper, but if I was building for someone, I'm sure I'd get the Evo myself... Had a friend just two weeks ago lose his HDD that he didn't back up (though holy shit, check the Samsung website for the 960 Evo, that thing is a beauty). Suppliers buy the 850 Evo for $180CAD, so if you wait it wouldn't come down much lower. | ||
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abuse
Latvia1946 Posts
@Fiwi, the vid you checked is indeed outdated, the rx480 driver updates have been kicking in starting december, and they not only increase for the newest games, but also has like a 10% and more increase in all games accross the board, including older ones. I was sharing your opinion(except the 1060 never beat the 480 by 20%, more like 10%.) overall up until 2 days ago, but the new info is enough to sway me away from 1060 I guess.  Many thanks for your post especially + Show Spoiler [video worth checking out about it] + | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
I would go with the nh-d14 or 15 but im worried about my ram height | ||
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z0rz
United States350 Posts
http://noctua.at/en/nh-d14/rcomp | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Allllllmost here  | ||
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bluegarfield
Singapore1128 Posts
On January 11 2017 05:16 NovemberstOrm wrote: what kind of cooling difference can i expect going from a hyper 212 evo to a Noctua NH-U14S? I would go with the nh-d14 or 15 but im worried about my ram height according to review test results, U14S will be 2-5c better than hyper212 depending on load, but gonna be more expensive as well. as for ram clearance, D14 has a list of compatible ram as answered above. D15 is redesign to have better clearance, but still good to check the list. you can go with D15S (single fan) and it still performs really well, although gonna be lots more expensive than hyper212, or cryorig h7 | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
according to review test results, U14S will be 2-5c better than hyper212 depending on load, but gonna be more expensive as well. Which tests? | ||
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Wala.Revolution
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bluegarfield
Singapore1128 Posts
may be this and this. the only big difference i see is when running prime95 OC, but that hardly indicate any real world usage anyway | ||
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