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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On February 07 2014 12:44 rei wrote: I pick that tower cause it looks cool, what would you suggest i get? If you like the mesh look, try the Fractal Design Core 3000: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=78224 or the newer Antec 1100 Illusion: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129192 Corsair Carbide is another option as well: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139008 | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
On February 07 2014 12:22 skyR wrote: Rosewill Capstone 450 is significantly better than Corsair CX600M and is practically the same price. Don't spend money on a heatsink + thermal paste. Just get a better heatsink that comes with good thermal paste like the Thermalright True Spirit or Macho. And even if you wanted to purchase thermal paste, the AS5 is really dated... You don't need a GTX 780 Ti for 1080p. Corsair Carbide 200R for $60 is really meh.. you have much better cases for $10-$20 more. eg. Antec P280 right now is $70: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=92566&promoid=1363 Corsair Vengeance memory... typically not a good value. $87 for 1600MHz is definitely not a good value. Gigabyte Z87X-D3H for $125 on Newegg right now would be a better purchase than an Asrock Z87 Extreme4 at $130. yo skyr i am going to dual box wow (two wow.exe applications running at once). so for this, can you suggest a good size ram and good deal for me? I went with a better heatsink and the Gigabyte z87 too so thanks for that. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
On February 07 2014 13:11 skyR wrote: Unless you're running more than four instances of the game, you don't need more than 8 GB. cant find that $125 gigabyte mobo. also is there a reason why you prefer gigabyte>asrock and is there something wrong with corsair ram? Cant find a good deal on 8gb of ram. could ya help me out? | ||
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wptlzkwjd
Canada1240 Posts
On February 07 2014 12:44 rei wrote: I pick that tower cause it looks cool, what would you suggest i get? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006I2H0YS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER this one good? Easy, NZXT Phantom: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146087 | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
On February 07 2014 13:36 wptlzkwjd wrote: Easy, NZXT Phantom: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146087 holy shit sold! ganna get the red one lol | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On February 07 2014 13:19 Golgotha wrote: cant find that $125 gigabyte mobo. also is there a reason why you prefer gigabyte>asrock and is there something wrong with corsair ram? Cant find a good deal on 8gb of ram. could ya help me out? Gigabyte Z87X-D3H, $125 w/ promo code EMCPHPD42 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128591 Asrock Z87 Extreme4 is $130, $120 after mail in rebate. Mail-in rebates are just stupid but if you want the chance to save or lose ~$4 in a few months than go ahead. They're similar boards, well, sort of. Gigabyte has better VRM while Asrock has a bunch of added features like the buttons, debug LED, extra SATA, HDMI, etc. I use Corsair Vengeance myself. There's nothing wrong with Corsair memory beside the ridiculously tall heatspreaders (which will not clear under the bigger heatsinks like the Noctua NH-D14) and the price you plan on getting them at ($87). There are tons of better kits that are less expensive, eg. G.Skill 2133MHz 11-11-11-30 for $76.5: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231468 G.Skill 2133MHz 11-11-11 for $80: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231552 G.Skill 2133MHz 10-12-12-31 for $80: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231654 Mushkin 2400MHz 11-13-13-31 for $80: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226373 G.Skill 2400MHz 10-12-12-31 for $82: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231585 If you're a Corsair fan than go ahead and pay the extra for inferior memory but you should mention this next time and not say "bang for the buck." | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Titan was only used because it was the fastest GPU on the planet - 780 was 12smx gk110, titan was 14smx - then 780ti with 15smx and better, nonreference designs (titan had only stock pcb) came in and wipes floor with all of the single GPU scores where titan was still competing with 290x at high end | ||
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wptlzkwjd
Canada1240 Posts
Sweet. And in case you're wondering, it can fit a Noctua NH-D14 quite comfortably but any heatsink of that size will take up a lot of room behind the transparent screen on the case. That's the only downside to this case but hell, it comes with 3 fans at 3 adjustable speeds and blue LED lights everywhere so who really cares? Btw, to get the door to open for the DVD drives, you need to press on the black line on the right where there's an arrow pointing to it. That took me a while to find... On February 08 2014 00:08 Cyro wrote: The 6gb VRAM gk110's are only really relevant for people gaming on 5760x1080+ or niche uses like skyrim mod enthusiasts since reference and nonreference 780ti release, not really a market for them given 20nm upcoming Titan was only used because it was the fastest GPU on the planet - 780 was 12smx gk110, titan was 14smx - then 780ti with 15smx and better, nonreference designs (titan had only stock pcb) came in and wipes floor with all of the single GPU scores where titan was still competing with 290x at high end My 780M comes with 4GB of VRAM and apparently the 880M will have 8GB...I'm personally baffled at how I can even utilize 1GB... | ||
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tokicheese
Canada739 Posts
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RiceAgainst
United States1849 Posts
$500 for CPU, MOBO, Case, PSU, RAM, and maybe a GPU/HDD. I have a 2TB but it's 5400RPM. Is it possible to have major files on the internal HDD and then have everything else on a quicker external HDD? I don't mind boot times much. What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920x1080. I'd eventually like to expand to dual monitor once I stick a better GPU in this build. Would it be worth the hassle to get an SLI board now and grab another 7850 in the future or just wait to get a better single GPU later on? What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? StarCraft and League of Legends, preferably medium-high to max. I'm considering a ~$100 GPU for this and just do my heavier gaming on my other PC, which has a 7850. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Sony Vegas and Photoshop/Illustrator. This isn't very common so as long as I can do it, I don't need it to be done as best as possible. Do you intend to overclock? Nope. Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? Mentioned above. No for now, might be open to it in the future. Do you need an operating system? Yes. Though my brother might get a student price for it, so don't include it as part of the budget. Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? External HDD. I transfer files between my several PCs/Laptops/PS3 often. Do External HDDs benefit from 3.0? This might or might not be part of the $500. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. Preferably Intel CPU. GPU wise, AMD or Nvidia, though doesn't Nvidia fare better for editing? As for i5 vs i7, I don't think I need the i7 that much. What country will you be buying your parts in? US of A. If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. Amazon and Newegg for online, everything else at Fry's. Though if I can get Fry's to price-match Microcenter from 50+ miles away, then maybe Microcenter. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Yes, external HDDs do benefit from USB3.0. | ||
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RiceAgainst
United States1849 Posts
I started a build, here's what it looks like: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2PGq2 | ||
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cooked
China1238 Posts
It seems like the cheaper MSI board is worse for overclocking, would the right choice be to just go with the Asus one? | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On February 09 2014 07:39 cooked wrote: Hey guys, I'm looking to pull the trigger on a 4670k+Z87 CPU+MB combo from Microcenter, just wanted to know your opinions on the two currently lowest-priced motherboards they're offering in the combos, MSI's Z87-G41 ($220 total) or Asus Z87-A ($265 total). It seems like the cheaper MSI board is worse for overclocking, would the right choice be to just go with the Asus one? There was something about that particular MSI board having a limit for the CPU core voltage settings in the BIOS. I don't remember details, and I can't say if it's a voltage that will only be hit by crazy people. Still, the idea of any limit feels strange. I'd assume MSI configured it like this because they felt the parts on the board would burn out. I don't know if one should worry when trying to use this board to its limit. The more expensive boards are over-engineered and never get hotter than the CPU, so there's simply no need to use any limit as the board can murder the CPU without burning up itself. I don't know if that will mean that the board will keep working longer if you intend to use the PC overclocked for years and years. Personally, I'd be very tempted to choose the MSI Z87-G41 because it's $45 difference in price. | ||
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mav451
United States1596 Posts
On February 09 2014 07:39 cooked wrote: Hey guys, I'm looking to pull the trigger on a 4670k+Z87 CPU+MB combo from Microcenter, just wanted to know your opinions on the two currently lowest-priced motherboards they're offering in the combos, MSI's Z87-G41 ($220 total) or Asus Z87-A ($265 total). It seems like the cheaper MSI board is worse for overclocking, would the right choice be to just go with the Asus one? Cooked - what are you overclocking expectations? Are you aiming for 4.5-4.8Ghz? Do you have any past experience? Thing is, I don't believe we've seen a single user with the G41 in the Haswell OCN Statistics thread (which both Cyro and I are pretty active in). There are results with the Asus z87-A, so if cooked is concerned with achieving fairly high overclocks, I would err on the conservative side and buy the Z87-A or the Extreme4, as both are charted. DarkWizzie uses a G45 himself, for example. Sin also does not have the G41 board listed in his VRM database, but that may also be because he doesn't expect any serious overclockers to buy the lower end MSI boards :p + Show Spoiler + Maybe much ado about nothing, but I noticed that reviews on MC revealed that some buyers received restocked/returns, so I would advise cooked to be careful and examine the boards in the store, and ensure that the static bag seal hasn't been broken. Usually not a problem, but there is a great deal of variation between specific MC locations, so better safe than sorry. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
I'm really not sure what's going on with Asus boards right now, not sure if they have to use adaptive voltage to get voltage drop and they have a bunch of sensors and voltages named differently to everyone else (who seem to have basically the same naming schemes) so they're confusing, but most of the z87 boards i'd imagine can handle like 150w which is about where normal max load is for i5/i7 on air/clc unless you're more extreme with them (maybe a few exceptions on the very low end, i'm not aware of any boards blowing up but people who want even moderate overclockers have a tendency to over-buy on the motherboard, as ud3h, ud4h, ud5h etc and OC formula's are everywhere, even when people rarely have any use whatsoever for them) | ||
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