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Sophus
Profile Joined April 2010
18 Posts
February 06 2014 11:29 GMT
#4301
Hey guys,
after your great comments I'm finally satisfied with this build:

Gigabyte Z87X-D3H 126 € @amazon
Intel Core i5 4670K 190 € @amazon
GIGABYTE Geforce GTX 660 OC 150 € @alternate
G.Skill DIMM 8 GB DDR3-2133 Kit 67 € @alternate
250GB Samsung 840 Evo 136 € @mindfactory
530 Watt be quiet! Pure Power L8 CM 65 € @mindfactory
BitFenix Merc Alpha Midi Tower 32 € @mindfactory
Thermalright HR-02 Macho 35 € @mindfactory
Samsung SH-224DB 14 € @mindfactory

This adds up to 813 € with my dicounts at gigabyte only 757 €

Thanks for your input. What I learned was mainly how hard it is to stop. "Only 20 € more for a better XXX" was on my mind too often. Especially for the cheap case. But everything should fit in, I hope I won't regret ignoring Cyros concerns.

Thanks again.

mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
February 06 2014 16:38 GMT
#4302
On February 06 2014 19:07 Cyro wrote:
Resale probably not much, i remember checking a bunch of games before that ended up being like 5 dollars. For brand new ac4 i'd bet on more but 60.. hah


Yeah reselling games the conservative bet is 50% of retail *if you're in a hurry. Anymore, you gotta be patient and wait for more desperate/uninformed buyers lmao.
With no power comes no responsibility?
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
February 06 2014 17:32 GMT
#4303
Hey guys, quick question, if im going to be using the h100i can i assemble it out of the case to check the components are working, the disassemble it and the reassemble it back in the case without using extra thermal paste?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 06 2014 17:34 GMT
#4304
It is best practice to remove and reapply thermal paste everytime you remount.
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
February 06 2014 18:54 GMT
#4305
Ok thanks. Another question, im doing my first ever build with a mitx with a CLC, do you think im jumping too much into the deep end? From what ive seen online it looks a lot easier than most people say.. especially with the corsair 250d (the one im using) which looks like one of the easiest mitx cases to build in.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 18:58:30
February 06 2014 18:57 GMT
#4306
GTX 750 and 750 Ti have some specs and benchmarks up. Interesting thing about these cards is they don't need PSU connectors. I'm guessing this means the don't generate too much heat. Interesting interesting interesting.

http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/nvidia_geforce_gtx_750_750_ti_benchmarks_surface_in_the_uk.html

I've heard they'll be priced $110 and $150 respectively, or at least be in that ballpark.
maru lover forever
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 06 2014 19:15 GMT
#4307
On February 07 2014 03:57 Incognoto wrote:
GTX 750 and 750 Ti have some specs and benchmarks up. Interesting thing about these cards is they don't need PSU connectors. I'm guessing this means the don't generate too much heat. Interesting interesting interesting.

http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/nvidia_geforce_gtx_750_750_ti_benchmarks_surface_in_the_uk.html

I've heard they'll be priced $110 and $150 respectively, or at least be in that ballpark.

Yeha, I just saw. The plot thickens for me then XD
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
February 06 2014 19:19 GMT
#4308
On February 07 2014 03:54 RiSkysc2 wrote:
Ok thanks. Another question, im doing my first ever build with a mitx with a CLC, do you think im jumping too much into the deep end? From what ive seen online it looks a lot easier than most people say.. especially with the corsair 250d (the one im using) which looks like one of the easiest mitx cases to build in.

I think you are right, there's nothing actually hard about what you want to do. Just be patient and take a good look at everything. It might take longer than working in a normal case.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
February 06 2014 19:33 GMT
#4309
On February 07 2014 04:15 Froadac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 03:57 Incognoto wrote:
GTX 750 and 750 Ti have some specs and benchmarks up. Interesting thing about these cards is they don't need PSU connectors. I'm guessing this means the don't generate too much heat. Interesting interesting interesting.

http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/nvidia_geforce_gtx_750_750_ti_benchmarks_surface_in_the_uk.html

I've heard they'll be priced $110 and $150 respectively, or at least be in that ballpark.

Yeha, I just saw. The plot thickens for me then XD


They're apparently going to launch this month. http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-750-ti-gtx-750-reference-design/

It might indeed be worth waiting, though in your shoes I would get impatient. Still, the GTX 750 seems to be quite similar in terms of architecture to the GTX 650 Ti and it also seems to be clocked a bit faster. If it's really going to cost $110 it might be a very nice purchase, especially since the 650 Ti is like $120-130.

They look like nice little GPUs for sure.
maru lover forever
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 06 2014 19:43 GMT
#4310
These being $110 and $140 respectively is very unlikely considering there would be a $100 gap between a GTX 760 and GTX 750 Ti but then again Nvidia could use the dumbass Boost suffix to fill the gap.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 20:17:05
February 06 2014 20:09 GMT
#4311
On February 07 2014 03:57 Incognoto wrote:
GTX 750 and 750 Ti have some specs and benchmarks up. Interesting thing about these cards is they don't need PSU connectors. I'm guessing this means the don't generate too much heat. Interesting interesting interesting.

http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/nvidia_geforce_gtx_750_750_ti_benchmarks_surface_in_the_uk.html

I've heard they'll be priced $110 and $150 respectively, or at least be in that ballpark.


Heat is pretty much irrelevant, considering low end cards have no issues with temps+heat and the mid-high range like 760, 770 for example.. have the same coolers as 780ti's, even though they consume like 140-180w while 780ti on the same cooler has to deal with 350w (though heat buildup in case is a concern with multiple midrange+cards and overclocked cpu if you have bad airflow)

Unless they're volt unlocked.. but as it stands, most of the kepler cards aside from the gk110's are stuck at a low voltage anyway
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 06 2014 20:44 GMT
#4312
Yeah. I will likely just go for the ti. It does what I need it to do. I'm halway inclined to get a 660 but that's nearly $200. Sort of eliminates a ssd from my build.

ALso trying to find a good H87 mobo.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
February 06 2014 23:08 GMT
#4313
On February 05 2014 14:30 Cyro wrote:
I don't see niche for buying stuff from ibuypower etc if you are overclocking** - 1; standard one-fan clc from intel is really weak cooling and 2; They (build services in general, AFAIK) seem to charge a lot lot of money for overclocking on top of that if they do it

**I mean - if you're not an advanced user and you don't want to mess with parts or learn, you might not want to build. But then what are you doing overclocking?

There's also stuff like binning. OCUK and i bet many other sites that build or offer pre-overclocked stuff.. They test thousands of CPU's, sell the good ones for large premiums and give out most of the "meh" ones to people buying prebuilts that don't know how to overclock but are willing to pay $50 or $100 extra for a cpu running at a lower-mid tier overclock

That is assuming you plan to OC, because paying extra for unlocked CPU, z87 board and that cooling does not make sense otherwise

550w is overkill

An example build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($137.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $901.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-05 00:37 EST-0500)

no CPU cooler in that budget, nor OS. GPU is a 270 and not 270x (they are basically the same) - prices thrown around from random shops etc just as quick list


G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory operating voltage of 1.6V exceeds the Intel Haswell CPU recommended maximum of 1.5V+5% (1.575V). This memory module may run at a reduced clock rate to meet the 1.5V voltage recommendation, or may require running at a voltage greater than the Intel recommended maximum.

what's dis about?
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 06 2014 23:09 GMT
#4314
It's just Intel's recommendation. There's nothing wrong with using memory at 1.65v.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 07 2014 03:12 GMT
#4315
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2OE1m

decided to go with a best bang for buck build for around $1k. what do you guys think? i will be gaming at 1080p. can you guys tell me what this baby will be capable of in terms of gaming and streaming? More than enough? or should I stick with the 780 ti build? Thanks!
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
February 07 2014 03:19 GMT
#4316
ok I think i like this build better.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2OGlX
Any advice?

Also, the auto price picker that comes up with the lowest prize doesn't always have the free shipping part correct. There are so many parts where I thought it was free shipping and when I click on check out, it has a shipping and handling cost attacked to it.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 03:23:41
February 07 2014 03:22 GMT
#4317
On February 07 2014 12:12 Golgotha wrote:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2OE1m

decided to go with a best bang for buck build for around $1k. what do you guys think? i will be gaming at 1080p. can you guys tell me what this baby will be capable of in terms of gaming and streaming? More than enough? or should I stick with the 780 ti build? Thanks!


Rosewill Capstone 450 is significantly better than Corsair CX600M and is practically the same price.

Don't spend money on a heatsink + thermal paste. Just get a better heatsink that comes with good thermal paste like the Thermalright True Spirit or Macho. And even if you wanted to purchase thermal paste, the AS5 is really dated...

You don't need a GTX 780 Ti for 1080p.

Corsair Carbide 200R for $60 is really meh.. you have much better cases for $10-$20 more. eg. Antec P280 right now is $70: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=92566&promoid=1363

Corsair Vengeance memory... typically not a good value. $87 for 1600MHz is definitely not a good value.

Gigabyte Z87X-D3H for $125 on Newegg right now would be a better purchase than an Asrock Z87 Extreme4 at $130.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 07 2014 03:25 GMT
#4318
On February 07 2014 12:22 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 12:12 Golgotha wrote:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2OE1m

decided to go with a best bang for buck build for around $1k. what do you guys think? i will be gaming at 1080p. can you guys tell me what this baby will be capable of in terms of gaming and streaming? More than enough? or should I stick with the 780 ti build? Thanks!


Rosewill Capstone 450 is significantly better than Corsair CX600M and is practically the same price.

Don't spend money on a heatsink + thermal paste. Just get a better heatsink that comes with good thermal paste like the Thermalright True Spirit or Macho. And even if you wanted to purchase thermal paste, the AS5 is really dated...

You don't need a GTX 780 Ti for 1080p.

Corsair Carbide 200R for $60 is really meh.. you have much better cases for $10-$20 more. eg. Antec P280 right now is $70: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=92566&promoid=1363

Corsair Vengeance memory... typically not a good value. $87 for 1600MHz is definitely not a good value.

Gigabyte Z87X-D3H for $125 on Newegg right now would be a better purchase than an Asrock Z87 Extreme4 at $130.


wow, so you like my build? it's kinda hard to please you guys but you seem to like it since the changes are minimal. =) thanks for the advice!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 07 2014 03:27 GMT
#4319
On February 07 2014 12:19 rei wrote:
ok I think i like this build better.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2OGlX
Any advice?

Also, the auto price picker that comes up with the lowest prize doesn't always have the free shipping part correct. There are so many parts where I thought it was free shipping and when I click on check out, it has a shipping and handling cost attacked to it.


Do you have Amazon Prime? If you don't then that would explain why you don't get free shipping.

Z87X-D3H is available from Newegg for $125 right now with promo code.

Hyper 212 EVO isn't good, get a Thermalright True Spirit or Macho for slightly more.

Antec 900 is really dated and very bad at $96. It lacks a lot of modern features (cable routing, tool-less, USB3, etc) that cases at $100 should have.

Seasonic M620II is dated. Rosewill Capstone and XFX XTR are both much better at similar pricing.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 04:06:43
February 07 2014 03:44 GMT
#4320
I pick that tower cause it looks cool, what would you suggest i get?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006I2H0YS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
this one good?
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