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Oh man when did you become blue...
Can we have memo's for this? :D
The difference for me was 4c and that's only with a 120mm fan @5v.
That's a large gap. It's pretty important to monitor case temps IMO, and if possible, more fans at quiet RPM's often help a lot, especially if you don't have many. CPU temperatures will be negative affected unless airflow is awesome, and reasonably quiet fans can often actually remove noise as they require existing ones to run at lower RPM's to keep stuff cool (gpu @2000rpm and a couple of 800rpm case fans is better than gpu @3000rpm and cpu heatsink fans blowing 30c air instead of 22c)
So, what do you think, guys? Should I finalize the system as above?
I dunno :0 doesn't look too bad
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On December 06 2013 23:58 Cyro wrote:Can we have memo's for this? :D That's a large gap. It's pretty important to monitor case temps IMO, and if possible, more fans at quiet RPM's often help a lot, especially if you don't have many. CPU temperatures will be negative affected unless airflow is awesome, and reasonably quiet fans can often actually remove noise as they require existing ones to run at lower RPM's to keep stuff cool (gpu @2000rpm and a couple of 800rpm case fans is better than gpu @3000rpm and cpu heatsink fans blowing 30c air instead of 22c)
So I should buy an extra fan to blow air from the top vent?
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Chile62 Posts
Hey guys, I am doing another build here. As usual I would like your feedback and suggestions with what I currently have. (and to help me pick out a motherboard, since I have no clue about them).
Here is some Info:
+ Show Spoiler +What is your budget?
About $650
Definitely no more than $700 .
Currency: USD.
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1080p
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
BAttlefield 4 , other shooter games
GTA5
Other future games.
Hopefully on high~ settings.
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Normal use. Nothing else that would be too intense at least.
Do you intend to overclock?
I am set on amd-8320.
I won't overclock out of the box I think until I get a fan for it later.
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No
Do you need an operating system?
No
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
A case
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
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What country will you be buying your parts in?
United states
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
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Now here are the parts I am thinking of so far:
CPU : Amd FX-8320 (~$130)
GPU: Gigabyte GTX 760 GDDR5-2GB 2xDVI/HDMI/DP OC WINDFORCE 3X (~$260)
Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) (~$50)
HHD: WD Blue 1 TB (~$60)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder Series CX 600 Watt (~$62)
Dvd optical drive: Cheapeast I found (~$19)
Case: (Please help) ~(I need just a mid case with decent airFlow, usb 3.0 and under $50) ~
Motherboard: (Please help) ~Completely Lost~ (under $100 I am hoping) ~ unless the sweet spot is a bit more.
If you have a suggestion for a better part than any of the parts in mind please let me know.
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On December 07 2013 00:14 Adtor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2013 23:58 Cyro wrote:Oh man when did you become blue... Can we have memo's for this? :D The difference for me was 4c and that's only with a 120mm fan @5v. That's a large gap. It's pretty important to monitor case temps IMO, and if possible, more fans at quiet RPM's often help a lot, especially if you don't have many. CPU temperatures will be negative affected unless airflow is awesome, and reasonably quiet fans can often actually remove noise as they require existing ones to run at lower RPM's to keep stuff cool (gpu @2000rpm and a couple of 800rpm case fans is better than gpu @3000rpm and cpu heatsink fans blowing 30c air instead of 22c) So I should buy an extra fan to blow air from the top vent?
You only need to if you think your graphics card needs it. Just try it out without any extra fans.
The GPU temperatures always seemed alright on all my PCs. I decided I need more fans because the metal at the top of my current case got pretty warm when the GPU was doing stuff for hours. You have that dampening material so the outside of the case might not get warm, but perhaps see what the metal in the back at the top feels like while gaming for hours. If it feels unnaturally warm to you, that's what more fans can change.
You can also try to see what you can deduce by looking at the temperatures of the various sensors you'll see in a program like HWINFO or HWMonitor. Beside the board's sensor, the SSD and HDD sensors might be interesting to guess what more fans will do.
If you decide you want a third fan or even more, you still have other interesting fan mount positions available without opening up the top or the side of your case. You might still want to keep those positions closed to reduce noise (and have some protection against someone dropping a drink into your PC through the open top).
Your case can have two 140mm fans behind the front door. There is a fan mount position next to the PSU on the bottom of the case. You can have more intake fans than out. Air can just flow out by itself at the back of your case where the metal is perforated.
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On December 07 2013 01:01 xasuma wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hey guys, I am doing another build here. As usual I would like your feedback and suggestions with what I currently have. (and to help me pick out a motherboard, since I have no clue about them). Here is some Info: + Show Spoiler +What is your budget?
About $650
Definitely no more than $700 .
Currency: USD.
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1080p
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
BAttlefield 4 , other shooter games
GTA5
Other future games.
Hopefully on high~ settings.
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Normal use. Nothing else that would be too intense at least.
Do you intend to overclock?
I am set on amd-8320.
I won't overclock out of the box I think until I get a fan for it later.
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No
Do you need an operating system?
No
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
A case
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
~
What country will you be buying your parts in?
United states
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
~
Now here are the parts I am thinking of so far: CPU : Amd FX-8320 (~$130) GPU: Gigabyte GTX 760 GDDR5-2GB 2xDVI/HDMI/DP OC WINDFORCE 3X (~$260) Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) (~$50) HHD: WD Blue 1 TB (~$60) Power Supply: Corsair Builder Series CX 600 Watt (~$62) Dvd optical drive: Cheapeast I found (~$19) Case: (Please help) ~(I need just a mid case with decent airFlow, usb 3.0 and under $50) ~ Motherboard: (Please help) ~Completely Lost~ (under $100 I am hoping) ~ unless the sweet spot is a bit more. If you have a suggestion for a better part than any of the parts in mind please let me know.
Gigabyte's GA-970A-UD3 is pretty much the cheapest AM3+ motherboard that isn't garbage for overclocking.
The UD3P is $90 currently and it's basically the same thing.
For case:
Either NZXT Source 210 Elite or Tempest 210
E: Also get the Rosewill Capstone 450 for $60 instead of the garbage CX600.
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memory compare
The only difference I see is the heat spreader. Do I need it for non-overclocking build? If not, then I will get the cheaper one and save myself $2
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Heat spreaders on RAM is a pure aesthetic thing.
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I just checked their website (http://www.teamgroup.com.tw), and they also seem to have lifetime warranty for memory, just like G.Skill. I'd probably also save the $2. 
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+ Show Spoiler +On December 07 2013 01:10 Ropid wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 00:14 Adtor wrote:On December 06 2013 23:58 Cyro wrote:Oh man when did you become blue... Can we have memo's for this? :D The difference for me was 4c and that's only with a 120mm fan @5v. That's a large gap. It's pretty important to monitor case temps IMO, and if possible, more fans at quiet RPM's often help a lot, especially if you don't have many. CPU temperatures will be negative affected unless airflow is awesome, and reasonably quiet fans can often actually remove noise as they require existing ones to run at lower RPM's to keep stuff cool (gpu @2000rpm and a couple of 800rpm case fans is better than gpu @3000rpm and cpu heatsink fans blowing 30c air instead of 22c) So I should buy an extra fan to blow air from the top vent?
You only need to if you think your graphics card needs it. Just try it out without any extra fans.
The GPU temperatures always seemed alright on all my PCs. I decided I need more fans because the metal at the top of my current case got pretty warm when the GPU was doing stuff for hours. You have that dampening material so the outside of the case might not get warm, but perhaps see what the metal in the back at the top feels like while gaming for hours. If it feels unnaturally warm to you, that's what more fans can change.
You can also try to see what you can deduce by looking at the temperatures of the various sensors you'll see in a program like HWINFO or HWMonitor. Beside the board's sensor, the SSD and HDD sensors might be interesting to guess what more fans will do.
If you decide you want a third fan or even more, you still have other interesting fan mount positions available without opening up the top or the side of your case. You might still want to keep those positions closed to reduce noise (and have some protection against someone dropping a drink into your PC through the open top).
Your case can have two 140mm fans behind the front door. There is a fan mount position next to the PSU on the bottom of the case. You can have more intake fans than out. Air can just flow out by itself at the back of your case where the metal is perforated.
Alright, thanks, I will monitor this when I start using it (still waiting for the damn motherboard). Would it be a good investment to find one of those screens I can put on the case to monitor the PC's status like temperature, fan speed and what not? It looked useful but is it really?
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There is software to monitor temperatures, fan speeds, and everything else. No reason for a regular user to get hardware sensors.
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United Kingdom20326 Posts
I wouldn't bother; Belial's messing with mods to show for example Vcore and VRIN from voltage readout points on front panel, which is nice (and on a somewhat deeper level, because it's a hardware readout), but you can just check most stuff in the OS fine
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All my parts finally arrived (motherboard, ram, cpu) and I was looking up if there was anything special I needed to do to replace my current motherboard beyond just swapping the parts out, since apparently windows 7 can have issues with new motherboards and not recognizing that it's a a legit install etc. - I haven't been able to find a catch-all guide that isn't from like 2006 so is there one out there or am I worrying needlessly and I should just be able to swap things out?
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It's best to do a fresh install of Windows when switching out motherboards to avoid driver conflicts.
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On December 07 2013 02:33 skyR wrote:
It's best to do a fresh install of Windows when switching out motherboards to avoid driver conflicts.
So I should be okay just moving all my important files off my ssd to my hdd, swapping parts, reinstalling windows on the ssd, and moving the files back from the hdd to ssd?
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Anyone have any experiences with buying monitors at 2nd hand stores. good idea? or should I just shell out maybe 100-150 on a new one.
given that 2nd hand ones will range from 10-50
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If it's a store then there's a return policy so I don't see what can go wrong.
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On December 07 2013 04:03 skyR wrote:
If it's a store then there's a return policy so I don't see what can go wrong.
2nd hand stores usaully have a no return policy
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Just spent 3 hours putting together a build for the first time, and the elation when all the fans started up without a hitch and bios splash screen showed up for the first time.
Now it's just the wiring mess that I have to clean up. Do wire/cable ties or zipties have problems being in the case around the heatsink or memory?
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