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Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
December 04 2012 06:09 GMT
#601
Yes, when I drag around the minimap like that while streaming, there is no problem. I've streamed hundreds of hours and I've never had any performance issues.

Maybe 80%+ would be more accurate, and 90% max, although i think one core tends to consistently be 90%+. Not all 4 cores get maxed out the same, I think certain cores stay around 70-80 at most. I think with OBS I found a more even distribution of workload than with FFsplit/Xsplit, higher utilization of all cores vs some cores maxed out consistently and some cores even as low as 50% max utilization.

The stream and gameplay is smooth and consistent. I've shown vods around of my stream looking just fine with zero dropped p-frames and b-frames and 25-30+ minimum fps. There is no stuttering of any kind or input lag or performance issues, just the fps dropping (smoothly) during very very big lategame battles but it's still more than playable performance, i'm talking a dip of 25-30 fps but even in big battles generally above that fps.
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usman8001
Profile Joined December 2012
Pakistan1 Post
December 05 2012 10:14 GMT
#602
hi
Wow, thank you very much for writing this guide.This looks amazing
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Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
December 05 2012 13:33 GMT
#603
I'l have to try this out later today, bandwidth is the most limiting factor for me in streaming, but this program might help with the CPU usage and stuff.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
December 05 2012 18:30 GMT
#604
Yeah, not noticing too much difference between this and Xsplit really at similar settings.
My framerate goes up a little while streaming, sure, but the stream quality seems worse than Xsplit's and I still get an annoying screen tearing issue ingame (LoL) whenever I'm not using Vsync without streaming anyway.

Considering the tearing issue is what bothers me the most, and I don't notice ingame performance issues besides this while playing (even though framerate goes from like 55-80/90 or so when using OBS), I'm going to stick with Xsplit.
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giX
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States185 Posts
December 06 2012 01:56 GMT
#605
Hi, I'm hoping somebody can help me. I'm trying to maximize my FPS while streaming, and it keeps dipping below 20 and sometimes to 10 whether I use OBS or Xsplit.

I have a i7-2600 3.40 ghz, AMD Radeon 6900, and 16 GB of Ram.

my obs settings:
quality: 6
bitrate: 1500
buffer: 1500
resolution: 1920x1080
fps: 30
cpu preset: veryfast

I am pretty new to streaming, I put my settings like this from my friends recomendation. so any help is appreciated! thanks.
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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10340 Posts
December 06 2012 02:39 GMT
#606
Are you using game capture or window capture?
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giX
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States185 Posts
December 06 2012 02:48 GMT
#607
On December 06 2012 11:39 R1CH wrote:
Are you using game capture or window capture?

Window Capture. I can't seem to get sc2 to show up in game capture.
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nemo14
Profile Joined January 2011
United States425 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 06:16:42
December 06 2012 04:50 GMT
#608
i'm streaming off an i5 with integrated graphics and seem to be able to handle 720p 30fps with absolutely no loss of performance compared to xsplit at 30% of that quality. this thing is shockingly good compared to what i've been used to.

only complaint so far is that whenever i start a new game of LoL i seem to get a black screen. audio seemed fine, but video was totally fubar. restarting the stream (double-click stop/start streaming) fixes the problem and i've only had to deal with it twice, so i still haven't experimented enough to get an idea of what the issue might be. any thoughts/fixes?

edit for clarity: i'm just using full screen capture and a small webcam window as my sources with a headset mic. i'm going to try the game capture feature tomorrow night to see how it treats me.
mistax
Profile Joined March 2011
United States415 Posts
December 06 2012 05:43 GMT
#609
OBS so far being working wonder for me over xsplit, frame rate stay high and there is no crashing issue with game source when used with league of legend. Will be switching back to window 8 if everything is good with obs. I do dislike that there is no 1920x1080 option for me to stream at though when downscaling from 2560x1440 so when streaming 1280x720/60 it looks crisp but a tad crappier than when you downscale from 1920x1080.

Setting 2560x1440 > 1280x720 @ 60
Bitrate 2500kb
Audio 128

CPU i7-970 @ 4.2
Ram 24gb
GPU 7970 Matrix Platnium
Internet is 30/5
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 09:24:57
December 06 2012 08:54 GMT
#610
On December 06 2012 10:56 giX wrote:
Hi, I'm hoping somebody can help me. I'm trying to maximize my FPS while streaming, and it keeps dipping below 20 and sometimes to 10 whether I use OBS or Xsplit.

I have a i7-2600 3.40 ghz, AMD Radeon 6900, and 16 GB of Ram.

my obs settings:
quality: 6
bitrate: 1500
buffer: 1500
resolution: 1920x1080
fps: 30
cpu preset: veryfast

I am pretty new to streaming, I put my settings like this from my friends recomendation. so any help is appreciated! thanks.

If you're using Vista/7, make sure you have OBS set to turn off Aero automatically when streaming. If you're using Windows 8, you cannot use monitor capture and must use window/game capture to avoid the framerate drop.
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obs.Jim
Profile Joined August 2012
United States101 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 09:22:10
December 06 2012 09:20 GMT
#611
Window capture is fine with windows 8, it's monitor capture that has the problem. Which will be fixed soon(tm). Monitor capture on windows 8 should be very very fast as well in comparison to previous versions of windows. They implemented a new full monitor capture method for it which is super fast. Only downside is that you actually have to use windows 8. Which I wouldn't advise people to do because they really gutted it, it's very unpleasant to use. (Just my opinion)
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
December 06 2012 09:25 GMT
#612
Fixed, mixed them up.

Why do you feel it's unpleasant to use, if as you said it's 'super fast'?
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obs.Jim
Profile Joined August 2012
United States101 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 09:40:49
December 06 2012 09:31 GMT
#613
The ability to capture the monitor is super fast. It's a new internal feature that was added only in windows 8.

However, the windows 8 operating system itself has been gutted in such a way that makes it very unpleasant to use, especially for a power user type of person such as myself. Just so much of the good working fundamental GUI from windows 7 has been removed in windows 8 and it makes it very unpleasant for me personally to use.

The major issue is that it was not necessary to remove these things. They outright removed things that were working amazingly well in windows 7. Things that helped contribute to windows 7's popularity. Windows 8, to me, is a complete and utter mess. Windows vista? Doesn't even compare to the level of horribleness that windows 8 is. It's literally an abomination. The only reason I'm even using it is so I can make sure I can implement these important new features for my app for people who do happen to use it.

Some people like it, and I'm going to make sure my app works for them regardless. That's why I manned up and installed this heinous abomination, but that's how I generally feel about windows 8. Just my humble opinion.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
December 07 2012 05:01 GMT
#614
Is it possible to play the game on one computer (dual core, i3 3220) but stream it with another computer (I have a laptop with an i7, so quad core + HT)?
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 05:07:11
December 07 2012 05:06 GMT
#615
You would need a capture card, Alryk

i'm streaming off an i5 with integrated graphics and seem to be able to handle 720p 30fps with absolutely no loss of performance compared to xsplit at 30% of that quality.


Xsplit gives you 30% of the quality? Can you upload a few VOD's at the same settings for me to look at, the encoders for both programs are almost identical.

In regards to performance, i am not aware of anyone who does not experience really big framerate hits (using any program or software capture method), so some benchmarks would be nice (using fraps or another program)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
nemo14
Profile Joined January 2011
United States425 Posts
December 07 2012 06:38 GMT
#616
On December 07 2012 14:06 Cyro wrote:
You would need a capture card, Alryk

Show nested quote +
i'm streaming off an i5 with integrated graphics and seem to be able to handle 720p 30fps with absolutely no loss of performance compared to xsplit at 30% of that quality.


Xsplit gives you 30% of the quality? Can you upload a few VOD's at the same settings for me to look at, the encoders for both programs are almost identical.

In regards to performance, i am not aware of anyone who does not experience really big framerate hits (using any program or software capture method), so some benchmarks would be nice (using fraps or another program)


xsplit doesn't let me stream at anywhere near native resolution because i'm still using the free version. obs has allowed me to drastically increase the quality of my stream without spending money. that's what i meant by the "30% quality" statement.

what surprised me was that i am currently able to play league at 30-40 fps with obs running at those settings. previously i was playing at 30-40 fps with xsplit running at 768x432 and 25fps. i suppose the encoder doesn't care much about its output, just the size of its input? i am not very knowledgeable about these things.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
December 07 2012 07:16 GMT
#617
^If you are capturing your entire screen with software capture the output resolution will be irrelevant, only the input (the resolution your screen or game is set to) and the framerate.

OBS allowing a higher resolution and AAC audio for free is a massive plus, but please keep it seperate from "quality", lots of people get confused over the large amount of misinformation going around
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
mistax
Profile Joined March 2011
United States415 Posts
December 07 2012 09:16 GMT
#618
On December 06 2012 14:43 mistax wrote:
OBS so far being working wonder for me over xsplit, frame rate stay high and there is no crashing issue with game source when used with league of legend. Will be switching back to window 8 if everything is good with obs. I do dislike that there is no 1920x1080 option for me to stream at though when downscaling from 2560x1440 so when streaming 1280x720/60 it looks crisp but a tad crappier than when you downscale from 1920x1080.

Setting 2560x1440 > 1280x720 @ 60
Bitrate 2500kb
Audio 128

CPU i7-970 @ 4.2
Ram 24gb
GPU 7970 Matrix Platnium
Internet is 30/5


Jim what would you recommend for downscaling from 2560x1440? I've tried streaming at my native and it works fine, but alot of my viewers have issue watching the stream at that resolution. While 720@60fps is smooth it's not as clear as i would like it. I'm not sure if i should try the 1.5x option and increase bitrate to help?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 11:15:21
December 07 2012 11:11 GMT
#619
^It should be perfectly clear at the videos native resolution, the only problem would be that you would be upscaling it from 1280x720 to the resolution of the screen when you fullscreen or watch it in many ways. If you want to avoid it looking bad or blurry when you do that, just target the highest resolution you can at or below 1920x1080

A resolution upscaled to a much larger one will look awful regardless of bitrates. 720p upscaled to 1440 means three quarters of the information on your screen is being generated from data that doesnt exist
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
obs.Jim
Profile Joined August 2012
United States101 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 16:54:30
December 07 2012 16:50 GMT
#620
mistax - Wow, you have a really high resolution monitor. You can try 1.5, output will just be something like 1706x920. streaming at 1280x720 would probably be less taxing both for your system and your viewers' systems, and it's a more standard resolution. I would have to see an example of how it looks though.
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