EPT[G] Streaming with OBS (Open Broadcaster Software) - Page 29
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
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jacosajh
2919 Posts
On November 21 2012 12:10 Cyro wrote: DXtory is completely unrelated to your upload bandwidth..? Jacosajh, why not stream at higher resolution, if you are limiting yourself to 20fps anyway you should have almost identical game performance @1280x720 and 1920x1080 because the performance drop is mostly due to capturing the screen or game and you have to capture the entire screen anyway And again, you can do 720p@60fps very easily, you just chose not to because of performance hit on the game. That is one of the things I've been trying to evaluate. Whether I'm just have needlessly high expectations. I think I am too critical on the gaming aspect compared to the stream aspect. I am more bothered by how the stream affects my gaming than what people see. That's why I don't really think there's a big difference between 20 and 30 FPS. I kind of see it like, "Well, if I can't play at the top of my game, there's no point in displaying it in top-notch quality." I was running 720@30fps fine on Xsplit. Even then, I ran @20fps. I just wanted to see if this thing could do 720p@60fps as the OP suggests. It took too much of a performance hit that I couldn't really bare with it. | ||
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obs.Jim
United States101 Posts
Any of you guys can do the same if you wish. I can't promise I can get everything working perfectly for everyone, but at the very least I can hopefully help some people out. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
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jacosajh
2919 Posts
Thanks for the help; it would be awesome to stream at 720 @ 60 fps without a big performance hit -- unless I'm just too picky at performance. P.S. Does streaming in multiscreen affect anything? My monitors are running off different GPUs though. | ||
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obs.Jim
United States101 Posts
There is currently an issue that only happens in your specific setup (I think), where if you do not disable preview, it will create some system lag because it has to draw the preview screen on both GPUs, and it has to transfer data between non-linked cards or something, which seems to create abnormal system lag. It's a really weird problem that only happens with your specific setup. When preview is disabled, everything is fine, but when enabled, it just lags stuff up for people who use separate GPUs for monitors because it seems it has to transfer that data. Let me know of your results if you try. | ||
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HyDrA_solic
Portugal491 Posts
However, over time, the stream went weird, without affecting my ingame quality. Some viewers complain about sudden breaks, wich I can visualize when I watch my stream. Any tips for me to overcome this issue? My settings: Open Broadcaster Software v0.43a - 32bit (´・ω・｀) ------------------------------- CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz CPU Speed: 2660MHz Physical Memory: 4095MB Total, 3285MB Free stepping id: 5, model 14, family 6, type 0, extmodel 0, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 4, total cores 4 ------------------------------------------ Adapter 1 Video Adapter: AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series Video Adapeter Dedicated Video Memory: 1059561472 Video Adapeter Shared System Memory: 2948112384 Send Buffer Size: 32768 =====Stream Start===================================================================== Multithreaded optimizations: On Base resolution: 1440x900 Output resolution: 1440x900 ------------------------------------------ Loading up D3D10... ------------------------------------------ Using auxilary audio input: Microfone (2- Razer Banshee) ------------------------------------------ Audio Encoding: AAC bitrate: 192 ------------------------------------------ Using audio/video sync fix ------------------------------------------ Video Encoding: x264 fps: 45 width: 1440, height: 900 quality: 10 preset: veryfast i444: no max bitrate: 2500 buffer size: 2500 ------------------------------------------ Total frames rendered: 77855, number of frames that lagged: 4030 (5.18%) (it's okay for some frames to lag) Number of b-frames dropped: 0, Number of p-frames dropped: 0 =====Stream End======================================================================= | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
I think your settings are too aggressive and 1280x720@60fps or 1440x900@45fps is just a touch too much, you will be fine most of the time but not 100%. You could go to a faster preset, but that wont help you. Veryfast is the sensible limit, going to superfast takes some 6% off CPU load but more than doubles the amount of data you need to have the same output quality, you would be better just to cut your FPS from 1280x720@60fps to 40 or so, and 1440x900 to 25-30. Im pretty sure that will help you out a lot if not fix all of your problems, you are throwing up settings as if you were using an ivy bridge i5 and you are really not. 1080p30 / 720p60 standard only really came around with first gen i7's @4ghz, which would outperform your CPU by ~70-80% and then sandy and ivy bridge came along which puts those processors to shame. You literally have the weakest non-low-power first generation desktop i5 and you cant come anywhere close to matching the settings that overclocked higher end or flat out newer CPU's can run without issues or setup time. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34503 Posts
* Added stream delay feature A feature which is only available for pro subscribers of Xsplit is now free in OBS. ^_^ | ||
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HyDrA_solic
Portugal491 Posts
On November 25 2012 05:29 Cyro wrote: You are using a first gen i5 at stock, a 3570k would have somewhere around double your performance (ballpark) I think your settings are too aggressive and 1280x720@60fps or 1440x900@45fps is just a touch too much, you will be fine most of the time but not 100%. You could go to a faster preset, but that wont help you. Veryfast is the sensible limit, going to superfast takes some 6% off CPU load but more than doubles the amount of data you need to have the same output quality, you would be better just to cut your FPS from 1280x720@60fps to 40 or so, and 1440x900 to 25-30. Im pretty sure that will help you out a lot if not fix all of your problems, you are throwing up settings as if you were using an ivy bridge i5 and you are really not. 1080p30 / 720p60 standard only really came around with first gen i7's @4ghz, which would outperform your CPU by ~70-80% and then sandy and ivy bridge came along which puts those processors to shame. You literally have the weakest non-low-power first generation desktop i5 and you cant come anywhere close to matching the settings that overclocked higher end or flat out newer CPU's can run without issues or setup time. Thanks man, thats helpfull, as I was already watching to buy a new CPU+mobo. So wich one should be: I5 2500k or I5 3570k? | ||
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der Koekje
Netherlands23 Posts
First I thought it was my Dxtory because I updated OBS and it gave me an error telling me to add it to the ignore list. But I fixed that and I'm still running into this issue. Very frustrating. EDIT: I use 2 scenes. One screen capture and one Dxtory because my stream will stutter otherwise. After some testing it seems that when I try to move the webcam source in the Dxtory scene, it messes up. The webcam source in the screen capture scene works fine. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
On November 26 2012 05:11 HyDrA_solic wrote: Thanks man, thats helpfull, as I was already watching to buy a new CPU+mobo. So wich one should be: I5 2500k or I5 3570k? 3570k unless you want a high end overclock, then 2500k is slightly better. You would probably want to go with a non-k CPU and non-overclocking motherboard to save money though if you are not overclocking. | ||
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R1CH
Netherlands10342 Posts
On November 27 2012 20:24 der Koekje wrote: I use 2 scenes. One screen capture and one Dxtory because my stream will stutter otherwise. After some testing it seems that when I try to move the webcam source in the Dxtory scene, it messes up. The webcam source in the screen capture scene works fine. Tried using OBS game capture instead? | ||
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matiK23
United States963 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
On November 28 2012 07:29 matiK23 wrote: When would one use DXtory? Is it a crutch for a missing streaming component? It's an alternate capture method. It gives better game performance for some, worse for others, but is otherwise identical. | ||
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dmclol
United Kingdom8 Posts
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jacosajh
2919 Posts
On November 25 2012 21:08 Firebolt145 wrote: For those that haven't been following the changelog: A feature which is only available for pro subscribers of Xsplit is now free in OBS. ^_^ This is a nice feature. But makes me wonder if OBS will be free for much longer ^_^ | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
On November 30 2012 04:05 jacosajh wrote: This is a nice feature. But makes me wonder if OBS will be free for much longer ^_^ Probably, Xsplit has a lot of nice features, and some upcoming stuff that fixes most of the concerns i had with using it. | ||
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CrazyIvanPL
Poland220 Posts
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