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I just downloaded Mouse Movement Recorder, which shows mouse and pointer movement, showing green bars for pixel drops and red for skips.
My mouse runs perfectly at 1:1 without either, but when i make fast movements, i get a lot of pixel drops (50+%).
I knew my mouse wasnt tracking all too well at high speeds, but this is far far worse than i thought it was...
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AH5S4.png)
I only get the red (skip) after massive drop chains, not during normal movement etc
Im at 800dpi, 6/11, accel disabled, and everything works fine with standard movement, but as soon as i make fast sweeps (turning in FPS, marine splitting, some osu) i get this.
Would really like to know what is causing this, i have steelseries qxc+ mousemat and was going to buy the CM Storm Spawn soon, but was holding out because im a bit short on cash and i thought my current mouse was working fine (It is the steelseries WoW gaming mouse... horrible shape, but it seemed to work fine)
If anyone knows whats up please post, ty, want to get this fixed ASAP
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do you play with a mousepad or a glass table?
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On October 11 2011 03:05 Boblhead wrote:
do you play with a mousepad or a glass table?
On October 11 2011 03:03 Cyro wrote:
Would really like to know what is causing this, i have steelseries qxc+ mousemat
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On October 11 2011 03:10 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 03:05 Boblhead wrote:
do you play with a mousepad or a glass table? Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 03:03 Cyro wrote:
Would really like to know what is causing this, i have steelseries qxc+ mousemat
T_T didnt see that. Hmm well usually when pixels skip its either a shitty mousepad or a bad surface area. It could be the opticle at the bottom of your mouse is dirty. Or if you have raged and slammed your mouse there could of been some little thing that shakes or moves if your mouse moves to fast.
how old is your mousepad and is it super worn?
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Steelseries makes terrible mice. They generally have lots of inherent +/- acceleration, prediction, and poor response. I would suggest buying a razer mouse. The abyssus is relatively cheap and high quality.
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Just what speeds are you moving your mouse at? Are you going over 2m/s (Depends on which "SteelSeries WoW" mouse you have, Cactalysm or the very early one that does 400-3,200 DPI? If you're using the cactalysm mouse then it's malfunction speed is 6m/s).
Also have you tried testing it on a lower polling rate? Say 250 or 125hz?
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On October 11 2011 03:13 Boblhead wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 03:10 Cyro wrote:On October 11 2011 03:05 Boblhead wrote:
do you play with a mousepad or a glass table? On October 11 2011 03:03 Cyro wrote:
Would really like to know what is causing this, i have steelseries qxc+ mousemat
T_T didnt see that. Hmm well usually when pixels skip its either a shitty mousepad or a bad surface area. It could be the opticle at the bottom of your mouse is dirty. Or if you have raged and slammed your mouse there could of been some little thing that shakes or moves if your mouse moves to fast. how old is your mousepad and is it super worn?
It is a month or two, i cleaned it once lightly with warm water and dried it out with a cloth, left it a while etc after reading some suggestions
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On October 11 2011 03:16 Matuka wrote:
Just what speeds are you moving your mouse at? Are you going over 2m/s (Depends on which "SteelSeries WoW" mouse you have, Cactalysm or the very early one that does 400-3,200 DPI? If you're using the cactalysm mouse then it's malfunction speed is 6m/s).
Its the older one, bought it a little after release, i dont think im passing 2m/s, the recorder goes CRAZY during osu spins etc, even at 200rpm over a small area
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On October 11 2011 03:16 JayDee_ wrote:
Steelseries makes terrible mice. They generally have lots of inherent +/- acceleration, prediction, and poor response. I would suggest buying a razer mouse. The abyssus is relatively cheap and high quality.
Where is your proof? Please I would like to know why you think "Razer" products are better?. The keyboards suck/ mice are terrible and the only decent things they make are the carrying bags for your keyboard/mouse etc etc.
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On October 11 2011 03:16 JayDee_ wrote:
Steelseries makes terrible mice. They generally have lots of inherent +/- acceleration, prediction, and poor response. I would suggest buying a razer mouse. The abyssus is relatively cheap and high quality.
I looked into mice a lot and was going to buy the CM Storm Spawn, but as i said im not sure what the issue is or if another mouse will fix it, i think this mouse just has tracking problems with fast speed but i dont have the knowledge to say much about that
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On October 11 2011 03:20 Boblhead wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 03:16 JayDee_ wrote:
Steelseries makes terrible mice. They generally have lots of inherent +/- acceleration, prediction, and poor response. I would suggest buying a razer mouse. The abyssus is relatively cheap and high quality. Where is your proof? Please I would like to know why you think "Razer" products are better?. The keyboards suck/ mice are terrible and the only decent things they make are the carrying bags for your keyboard/mouse etc etc.
Il agree with the keyboards sucking (I have one) and them having a lot of mice issues, however steelseries has a far worse history with mice, they even advertise negative and positive acceleration as features since people started complaining about both
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Yeah, on mice, I'd suggest Razer, on Keyboards, SteelSeries, between the two, ignoring specific feature needs. Hardware acceleration in a lot of the SS mice isn't something I'd want. That said, I can't stand a lot of Razer's mouse designs.
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On October 11 2011 03:16 JayDee_ wrote:
Steelseries makes terrible mice. They generally have lots of inherent +/- acceleration, prediction, and poor response. I would suggest buying a razer mouse. The abyssus is relatively cheap and high quality.
I digress. Some razer mice such as the Imperator and the Mamba are using Phillips Twin-Eye sensors of which are commonly known to have issues involving the z-axis. Upon lifting the mouse up, it will move down to the bottom right by a few inches and is actually pretty annoying. I suggest you avoid these mice. Whereas the Abyssus is actually a good pickup. Despite that the earlier models of the Abyssus have jittering (of which cant be fixed due to improperly planned out firmware issues), the later versions are ideal. Also the Deathadder is another great pickup from Razer. These two are probably the only products from Razer that are ideal for someone whose mouse-keen as I am, they're relatively flawless and ideal for any gamer (Especially now that Razer have released the left-handed version of the Deathadder).
Personally I'd avoid Razer and get a Microsoft Intelimouse 1.1, Microsoft Intelimouse 3.0, or a Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical 1.1A. Relatively flawless mice, all three of them. They all use the same sensor (MicroElectronics MLT 04).
On October 11 2011 03:22 Cyro wrote:
Il agree with the keyboards sucking (I have one) and them having a lot of mice issues, however steelseries has a far worse history with mice, they even advertise negative and positive acceleration as features since people started complaining about both
Indeed a mistake on SteelSeries part. At least they're honest. Just wished they negated all hardware acceleration and had commands like in Quake 3 CPMA to configurate your mouse acceleration.
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So replacing my mouse will fix this?
also none commented on the CM Storm Spawn, from what i heard it had a better sensor than even deathadder/abyssus
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Stupid question: What is the mouse recorder everyone's been using?
On Topic: I've heard great things about the CM Spawn. Can't really go too wrong with the Deathadder, as its been a standard for a while now. At any rate, the pixel skipping issues should be fixed with any higher DPI mouse, but Steelseries mice have that built in acceleration "feature" which annoys the crap out of people.
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On October 11 2011 03:56 MaliciousOne wrote:
Stupid question: What is the mouse recorder everyone's been using?
On Topic: I've heard great things about the CM Spawn. Can't really go too wrong with the Deathadder, as its been a standard for a while now. At any rate, the pixel skipping issues should be fixed with any higher DPI mouse, but Steelseries mice have that built in acceleration "feature" which annoys the crap out of people.
I was going to do a LMGTFY on that, but when I checked, there's actually about 63 trillion shady download links and unrelated products.
So yeah, this is a good question, and might be handy to have in the OP.
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On October 11 2011 04:01 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 03:56 MaliciousOne wrote:
Stupid question: What is the mouse recorder everyone's been using?
On Topic: I've heard great things about the CM Spawn. Can't really go too wrong with the Deathadder, as its been a standard for a while now. At any rate, the pixel skipping issues should be fixed with any higher DPI mouse, but Steelseries mice have that built in acceleration "feature" which annoys the crap out of people. I was going to do a LMGTFY on that, but when I checked, there's actually about 63 trillion shady download links and unrelated products. So yeah, this is a good question, and might be handy to have in the OP.
I downloaded it days ago and just remembered about it, dont have the link, found it in another TL thread... just got the .exe "Mouse Movement Recorder" and the OP screenshot
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On October 11 2011 03:56 MaliciousOne wrote:
Stupid question: What is the mouse recorder everyone's been using?
On Topic: I've heard great things about the CM Spawn. Can't really go too wrong with the Deathadder, as its been a standard for a while now. At any rate, the pixel skipping issues should be fixed with any higher DPI mouse, but Steelseries mice have that built in acceleration "feature" which annoys the crap out of people.
It isnt acceleration, the mouse runs fine at 1:1 with no negative or positive accel unless i move very quickly, when i get massive negative accel. It is the same at 800dpi or 3200dpi
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i suggest you ask the maker of mouse movement recorder and windows 7 accel fix - markthec
here:
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1846538
As for mice advice i also suggest the esreality hardware forum not here were even pro gamers like drewbie don't know about the accel of avago adns9500 sensor in xai, sensei, g500, g9x or that the only good mouse razer ever made was the deathadder 1800dpi
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On October 11 2011 17:42 Srdjan2311 wrote:i suggest you ask the maker of mouse movement recorder and windows 7 accel fix - markthec here: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1846538 As for mice advice i also suggest the esreality hardware forum not here were even pro gamers like drewbie don't know about the accel of avago adns9500 sensor in xai, sensei, g500, g9x or that the only good mouse razer ever made was the deathadder 1800dpi
Thanks! The Mouse Movement Recorder is included in his acceleration fix. Interesting stuff on the different mouse sensors. No problems with either the 3500dpi Deathadder or 4000dpi Lachesis (though, I would advise against the Lachesis models just because they're a bit awkward to get used to).
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